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Who seriously needs 1200 Watts?!

200-300 tube watts is where its at

Right, after my problems with PMT, I now have choice and also my deposit back!

Im first thinking about colour for a USA 4-string Jazz.

I like black, but Ive been told it can shows makrs and scratches easily.

I also really like white. Especially with the scratchplates you get with white.

Bear in mind i'm definitely going for a maple neck, what colours do people think look good on the new versions of the Jazz's?

Also, and more importantly, where is a RELIABLE place that will sell me a new Jazz that isn't a demo/marked etc? With my problems with PMT, im very dubious about every shop now.

The prices I've seen are around £829.00 on gak.

Thanks

Hey guys n gals. Thanks for the advice.

I wrote a very angry email to Fender UK on Friday. Not sure if they've had chance to sort anything yet.

I went into PMT on Saturday.

The guy who has messed me about knew I wasn't happy. He brought the apparently 'new' Jazz out. Guess what folks...he had lied. He had lied about it being new in the first place and had lied when I made the effort to go down because he said 'another new one has come in'. I noticed as it has been heavily polisherd, the pickups were not aligned correctly, and the Fender Sticker was hanging off like the last one...in the same place. The scratches had nearly gone, but more than likely due to the fact he had someone polish it. It had polish swirls all over it.

What I hate are the f***ing lies. I am really angry he lied. He said 'so you don't think its new, ok, we can get you a brand new one in, or you can have your money back'. He had also mentioned earlier on the phone 'we got that as a deal for you to match gak.co.uk'. What he means is a demo one, then he tried to lie again. I got my deposit back, and also informed him I wouldnt be using them for the other Orange cab.

I don't know whether to waste anymore time complaining, and not sure who would do anything, but I thought I should tell you lot.

Basically, be VERY careful. They have tried to stitch me up a few times in a few weeks! Dont get me wrong some of the stuff in their is mint and new, like when I got my Orange Head and 4x10, but make sure you check it out.

Im now disappointed but happy I can go somewhere else. I WILL get the dream Jazz!

Regarding the other Orange cab. Its been on the shop floor about 5 weeks, and it has been very battered! Black marks all over, scuffed corners, people using it as a seat! As if I am going to pay full retail on that!

I didnt even get a stand, I don't want any more problems.

Please see my other topic about Jazz decision and best place to go

Yes...it has ruined the experience of buying a USA Jazz. Ive wanted one for years.

Ive told them I wont be ordering the Orange stuff with them now, and Im tempted to ring them tomorrow and explain that Im not happy and want my deposit back.

Im off to Leeds on Saturday anyway, so I can pop in. I can just see myself losing my temper...not in an aggressive way, just like 'if this isnt perfect, then you can shove it'.

Its a shame, because some of the guys there are obviously average blokes and love guitars etc. This guy just creeps me out. This lass called Kay in there was very friendly and was disgusted when I told her what this bloke had been upto.

HAHAHA....if he really winds me up I will be naming him, to Fender, his manager, his Head Office, and everyone else.

Any finish marks I should look for to see if theyve tried to 'cover' the scratches up? Or will it be obvious?

Cheers

Yeah, the guys near me can order the Cab cheaper than Gak....and cheaper /no hassle compared to PMT. I think its this salesman, its almost like hes trying to bully me into his sales bullshit. Im the customer, if he wants to sell he needs to be polite and honest.

Hello

I have spent a fortune in PMT the last few months.

I had a thread about the new Fender Jazz 09 I ordered in...I didn't accept it due to finish flaws.

Carl, the manager, was really good about it, but the guy I was dealing with started to treat me like a kid.

Not only did he not call when I asked them to ring straight away when it came in (as I had to plan when to drive down) he then told my girlfriend that If I wanted to buy another Orange Cab (which I currently have a half stack so spent a bomb with this salesman) I would have to pay EXTRA on the normal retail because they already have one in stock, (although it looks a little worse for wear) and I want a new one ordering in. I also asked them to order the covers in for it, and they won't until I put a deposit down on them (we are talking £50 for three covers or something).

So...now I dont know if they are lying about this Fender. He said he didnt know if it was new to me, or if it was the old one repolished. He then told my girlfriend two different stories. Then he said he is 100% its brand new, and not the old doodgy.

He also had the cheek to say I shouldnt be so picky when ordering in. So if I buy this bass if spent over £2K in a month. And Im going to get this Orange cab now? I dont think so.

Advice please....im really disappointed. What should i check on this Fender to make sure its a brand spanking new one?

Theyve lost a sale with the Orange Cab....a local shop will undercut them by a £10 and it will be brand new stock.

Sorry for the rant. Im just digusted.

Hey

So one of the things I need is a new cable.

I have a P Bass, a J Bass on order, and a Stingray. So that means I have 2 that need plugging in on the front and 1 that needs plugging in on the bottom!

Do I get an angled cable? Daft Q, but does using a angled cable 'work' or a Pbass/Jbass....eg will it mark the paint when im playing?

Secondly, the best length? Id like length to walk about with....is 20ft just about right? Or will 30ft be better?

Ive heard 30fts can start to affect your signal.

Thanks

Gaz x

I like bright strings and ive always used roto ss. Gonna try some nickel ones soon though.

It LOOKS like an old Bass Collection I used to have....but I doubt it.

Yeah, PMT have awesome stock. They had a full Orange setup...so I bought the head and one cab. Now im after the other cab, but I noticed when I went to look at it that its been bashed about a bit since I first saw it. So I basically asked for new stock, can't see anything wrong with that. They don't seem happy to let me know a price on new stock!

And my Jazz is actually deposited at PMT, but they had to send the first one back to finish problems. Been waiting for a fair while now. Just getting a little disappointed.

Yeah they are awesome at Electro, but they couldnt match GAK's prices on a new Jazz, and Im not sure whether they deal with Orange for the Cab I'm after

Bought a lot from Electro in the past....I always still check them out.

Ok....so just wondering on the best place for Bass gear in Yorkshire....close to Leeds as possible if you know any.

I don't live in Leeds but i'm there all the time for work/study so its probs the most central place to go.

I have bought stuff from PMT in the past, but they are taking ages with getting back to me on prices and stock....I thought there was a credit crunch on?! Don't they want to sell me anything?!

Cheers

Cool cheers chaps!

Looks like thats what ill be getting

So its better not to have the backrest bit?

There appears to be two!

One with a back rest and one without!

They seem to be virtually the same price.

Which one is more suitable for a bassist?

412B or 414B?

Ive had a few stands in the past so i want to make sure this one is right!

Cheers x

Cheers!

I love the Orange stuff so much im gonna get a 1x15 so I have 2 sets of cabs to use.

Once I heard all tube I was sold...such a good sound!

Your Stingray is the same as mine! I think mine is about 3 years older....but basically exactly the same!

I'll put pics up soon!

x

Each to their own with everything, but i've never been a fan of Ashdown. Tried a few out, I prefer Trace/Ampeg/Orange.

I think its how it looks, and they are a bit 'woolly'.

They must do something right as they are very popular!

Orange fans....enjoy!

Check it

One might be the wrong way round!

Getting an Orange OBC 1x15 to make an all Orange rig

Also got a pre-Gibson/pre-Peavey Trace Elliot GP12400SMX when I don't fancy taking the Orange. Very nice head....very clear and loud. Not selling it now, my first proper Amp Head.....its worth keeping

OBBM linky?

Hey

I heard the Hercules Stands are excellent.

Any other decent stands out there?

What about cables? I was thinking Planet Waves, but the inbetween quality...not the ones with the switches on them.

Never understood the U2 bass choices.

If I were in U2, Id have the best modern and vintage bass amps cabs made.

[quote name='ARGH' post='423470' date='Mar 2 2009, 06:00 PM']They've been sh*t,get you cash back,go and spend someplace else....but dont be a cocksure nobhead,be a pro,its the job you are a student in learning for,keeping your head is half the game....Dont go mental,just remain calm,stiff,but calm.

Ive had Solicitors/Lawyers trying the rant at me (Guildford Law school...thankyou),and its the easy way to get hurled from a shop for harrassment and verbal abuse of staff...regardless of your money...or the situation..you might get a simple,f*** off,come back when you have calmed down and can behave like normal human being.[/quote]

LOL yeah I know what you mean. I wouldnt rant and rave, I just know the ins and outs of the legal side of my position. Which I suppose anyone does in this day in age.

Manager called, much better attitude. Fender Rep is calling him back with a date on a brand new one. He has no idea why the condition was so bad. He is also asking one thats come virtually straight in from USA and is still in every bit of packaging.

I then said, that if we could sort this out and get a very pristine black with maple Jazz USA like I wanted, I would consider ordering the Orange 1x15 if it was brand new in.

See what happens! Cheers for all the input!