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I'm aware of the limitations of speakers/Youtube compression etc. Perhaps they need to re-record the demo (which was my first thought).

Through my headphones (which obviously isn't as good as being in the room) there appears to be way less mids from the BF cab. A deep bass and 'pingy' top end but it also sounds like its size. 

My personal preference, to be clear, of a much more low mid punch and a nice clarity and sparkle in the highs (you can at least take this away if you want). Sometimes I like it to be middy and aggressive. I am not a fan of super deep bass; I'd let the PA do that if needed. 

An update on the MB 15 cab.

I have to be honest, I expected myself to prefer the BF cab before playing, but I far prefer the MB now I'd heard that....

59 minutes ago, W1_Pro said:

I think you hit the nail on the head in your post. Its subjective. People like different stuff at different times...even the same time...for different reasons.  Red also made a valid point which is almost certainly correct (IMHO anyway) about a sensible use of band cash would be sacking the backline altogether and paying an engineer.  However, lots of people still use Marshall stacks in unfeasible multiples. I've been following that heavy metal band from Doncaster (can't remember their name) who've been supporting Airbourne on thier European Tour. I think I counted twelve stacks (so 24 boxes) which most of the time they seem to have to carry in and out of the gig themselves. None of this is rational. At all. 

I've seen their social media. Fair play to them, that is a LOT of work. I wouldn't personally bother hahahaa.

19 hours ago, Bagman said:

I used the Black Widow 15" from Peavey cabinet for many years - hundreds of gigs

Same. Absolutely loved that cab. I had the 4x10 to 'match' but used the 1x15 for most things. mid 90s to mid 00s.

The Trace cabs sounds far superior, tone wise, in that video. It will give up volume wise because it's an old 1x15 that was no doubt rated for lower wattage amps.

If a manufacturer can design a 1x15 cab with that high mid/treble detail, but to handle say 400W and be as light as possible, that would be great. 

I later had the Orange 4x10 and 1x15 setup with the AD200b Mk3 - sold that years ago. The 1x15 was fantastic, again.

The Orange AD200b is an absolute monster for this. Too big and heavy for me nowadays though. Wonderful sound. 

I don’t think it’s Alex’s playing, I think it just needs setting up a bit differently as a sound demo. 
 

The tech is there, but it must be hard to get that across.

Maybe a tech talk then it changes to a sit down demo with plec/slap/fingerstyle. Hell even get a basic backing drum track on it. 

Roland/Boss have always impressed me. 

I’ve grown to respect him once I heard how deep the bass is…it really fills the low end but you need a good set of speakers / headphones to appreciate it.

He’s very percussive! 

That is probably very impressive, but wow £1000! Ideally I’d want a bigger / more powerful cab for that price. I know they work wonders with their custom drivers, but I’m not sure I’d get away with a powered 1x10 in a band.

I do think powered cabs are becoming more ‘normal’ now due to amazing modellers and pre amp pedals. 

I have some EB flats on my Stingray 4 H that have been on for 8+ years and sound/feel fantastic. No fret wear! 
 

Good thing with a Ray is that you can still get high mid grind with flats if you want. 

2 hours ago, Supernaut said:

I will never understand this theory that Italian made is somehow better than Indonesian made. 

I don't think it is necessarily better, but they have more control over their manufacturing if it is right next to them/close by, and I imagine manufacturing in Italy is not a cheap setup, so overall I'm pretty impressed.

The fact they went back to Italian manufacturing and kept their prices decent is pretty impressive!

Quilter stuff is always well engineered. Fantastic USA price as well. Wonder what the UK price is?!

4 hours ago, agedhorse said:

This American bashing stuff gets really old, and it's ironic in this case because the SpeakOn was a European design that was horribly flawed when first introduced. Everybody seems to forget the ridiculously unreliable locking ring that was changed in short order to various versions of the thumb latch...  and the lack of the metal insert was part of the original Neutrik design for at least 5 years!

 

 

...and this is why I love Genz Benz still! Thanks for sharing this, and clearing it up. I have had no issues with mine.

I still have my USA Sterling 5 HS from, wow, it's coming up to maybe 11/12 years old?!
 

The build quality is absolute perfection. It needs new strings soon again.

Big shame they don't currently make them. I hope they get them back as Sterling Specials soon.

8 hours ago, Chienmortbb said:

Slight;y off topic but others have mentioned they like the twin HH version better. The original Ray never appealed to me. IMHO the pickup was in the wrong place for my needs YMMV. A two HH version would be more interesting.  Thoughts?

The two pickup Stingray/Sterling has the original back H in the same position....

Stunning! Enjoy!

Well done to your bank!

4 hours ago, chris_b said:

 

You, your bass and your amp should be creating your sound. The cab should be distributing that sound to your audience not changing it.

Depends, I actually really like the colour the Aguilar DB cabs add to a sound, more so the DB12/DB212.

I never did get one! They looked great. Wish Kiesel would get them made and distribute in the UK.

I still rate the TC amps and cabs. They really had a grip on the market for some time.

I can't believe it has been 14-15 years! Really?!

I have 2 x RS210, covers, footswitch, RH750 and the bag and I enjoy them still.

I actually don't think we have moved on THAT far since the Genz Benz/TC/Markbass amps of 10 or so years ago. 

2 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

Class D amp with tube preamp, I suppose?

 

If that's the case it's not exactly news.

 

Also did you make this thread to generate Google hits?

 

Well it is for Genzler...news for them.

I am a user of Genz Benz amps and I have a LOT of respect for their technology in the bass amp/cab world.

Why would I want to generate google hits? Makes no difference to me. Not my career/business/company.

Anyway, apparently they are releasing info later today.

Description. Our circuitry and mechanical designs within the KINETIX™ 800 deliver an all-new platform in tube preamp, compact bass amplification design – exactly what players have come to expect from the GENZLER® design team.

There is a thread on Talkbass and some teaser pics on Genzler's social media ads.

Hmmmm!

Boss don't mess about. I imagine this will be pretty much bulletproof.

If I was thinking about a new bass amp I'd try this. 

Well considering the hefty prices for an 'official' Made in China Dingwall, this seems a great option hahaha!