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Regardless of the features, I must admit, the sounds hit me straight away.....they nailed it.

The tones from those pickups sound great, it looks fantastic, no doubt plays great but the smaller banjo frets and cost aren't for me.

I am surprised their import basses are now 2k+. I realise manufacturing location doesn't mean much now, heck look at Apple and how insanely high quality their products are, but....it's a lot for a modern take on a PJ from China. 

Think it is absolutely identical. Back pickups on Ray and Sterling USA models, whether H, HS or HH, are all in the 'sweet spot'.

36 minutes ago, SumOne said:

Yeah, I guess there's a certain amount of supply and demand for the pricing of these first ones, but the 'out of stock' pricing at Bass Direct is best.

 

Seeing as a D-roc is about £1,650 for a 4 string or £1,750 for a 5 I'd hope that is roughly where the price of an SP1 settles. If anything then not having a preamp or fancy glitter paint jobs would presumably make it a bit cheaper to produce. 

I think you might be right - once the initial rush is over they might end up a little cheaper. So far:

https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/product/dingwall-sp1-5-string-ducati-white/

1950 - which is a wildly cheaper than the early stock in other stores.

20 hours ago, krispn said:

I loved my super p and would love to try one of these but the recent price jumps!!! 
Stillifni had to consolidate down to one bass I’d be happy with a green one 😀

There seems to be wildly different prices. Bass Direct have the 4 strings for 1899. Much more in some other stores.

Impressive! Enjoy the relaxing times. 

Just checking in on this - I am also interested in a ahem...RIC....Andy gave me some info but says he isn't an official dealer. Which has confused me....any info?

I'm aware of the limitations of speakers/Youtube compression etc. Perhaps they need to re-record the demo (which was my first thought).

Through my headphones (which obviously isn't as good as being in the room) there appears to be way less mids from the BF cab. A deep bass and 'pingy' top end but it also sounds like its size. 

My personal preference, to be clear, of a much more low mid punch and a nice clarity and sparkle in the highs (you can at least take this away if you want). Sometimes I like it to be middy and aggressive. I am not a fan of super deep bass; I'd let the PA do that if needed. 

An update on the MB 15 cab.

I have to be honest, I expected myself to prefer the BF cab before playing, but I far prefer the MB now I'd heard that....

59 minutes ago, W1_Pro said:

I think you hit the nail on the head in your post. Its subjective. People like different stuff at different times...even the same time...for different reasons.  Red also made a valid point which is almost certainly correct (IMHO anyway) about a sensible use of band cash would be sacking the backline altogether and paying an engineer.  However, lots of people still use Marshall stacks in unfeasible multiples. I've been following that heavy metal band from Doncaster (can't remember their name) who've been supporting Airbourne on thier European Tour. I think I counted twelve stacks (so 24 boxes) which most of the time they seem to have to carry in and out of the gig themselves. None of this is rational. At all. 

I've seen their social media. Fair play to them, that is a LOT of work. I wouldn't personally bother hahahaa.

19 hours ago, Bagman said:

I used the Black Widow 15" from Peavey cabinet for many years - hundreds of gigs

Same. Absolutely loved that cab. I had the 4x10 to 'match' but used the 1x15 for most things. mid 90s to mid 00s.

The Trace cabs sounds far superior, tone wise, in that video. It will give up volume wise because it's an old 1x15 that was no doubt rated for lower wattage amps.

If a manufacturer can design a 1x15 cab with that high mid/treble detail, but to handle say 400W and be as light as possible, that would be great. 

I later had the Orange 4x10 and 1x15 setup with the AD200b Mk3 - sold that years ago. The 1x15 was fantastic, again.

The Orange AD200b is an absolute monster for this. Too big and heavy for me nowadays though. Wonderful sound. 

I don’t think it’s Alex’s playing, I think it just needs setting up a bit differently as a sound demo. 
 

The tech is there, but it must be hard to get that across.

Maybe a tech talk then it changes to a sit down demo with plec/slap/fingerstyle. Hell even get a basic backing drum track on it. 

Roland/Boss have always impressed me. 

I’ve grown to respect him once I heard how deep the bass is…it really fills the low end but you need a good set of speakers / headphones to appreciate it.

He’s very percussive! 

That is probably very impressive, but wow £1000! Ideally I’d want a bigger / more powerful cab for that price. I know they work wonders with their custom drivers, but I’m not sure I’d get away with a powered 1x10 in a band.

I do think powered cabs are becoming more ‘normal’ now due to amazing modellers and pre amp pedals. 

I have some EB flats on my Stingray 4 H that have been on for 8+ years and sound/feel fantastic. No fret wear! 
 

Good thing with a Ray is that you can still get high mid grind with flats if you want. 

2 hours ago, Supernaut said:

I will never understand this theory that Italian made is somehow better than Indonesian made. 

I don't think it is necessarily better, but they have more control over their manufacturing if it is right next to them/close by, and I imagine manufacturing in Italy is not a cheap setup, so overall I'm pretty impressed.

The fact they went back to Italian manufacturing and kept their prices decent is pretty impressive!

Quilter stuff is always well engineered. Fantastic USA price as well. Wonder what the UK price is?!

4 hours ago, agedhorse said:

This American bashing stuff gets really old, and it's ironic in this case because the SpeakOn was a European design that was horribly flawed when first introduced. Everybody seems to forget the ridiculously unreliable locking ring that was changed in short order to various versions of the thumb latch...  and the lack of the metal insert was part of the original Neutrik design for at least 5 years!

 

 

...and this is why I love Genz Benz still! Thanks for sharing this, and clearing it up. I have had no issues with mine.

I still have my USA Sterling 5 HS from, wow, it's coming up to maybe 11/12 years old?!
 

The build quality is absolute perfection. It needs new strings soon again.

Big shame they don't currently make them. I hope they get them back as Sterling Specials soon.

8 hours ago, Chienmortbb said:

Slight;y off topic but others have mentioned they like the twin HH version better. The original Ray never appealed to me. IMHO the pickup was in the wrong place for my needs YMMV. A two HH version would be more interesting.  Thoughts?

The two pickup Stingray/Sterling has the original back H in the same position....

Stunning! Enjoy!

Well done to your bank!