Al Krow

Fair. Although I have the ability to do all that on the FI... The SY-1 is poly, £75 cheaper than the C4 and is 'good to go' without needing midi etc. Downside is lack of presets. I think for me it would be FI OR C4, I can't see me needing them both on a live set.

Interesting point Dave. Won't any dirt pedal pretty much overpower the tone of the bass so that you end up with a tone that's dominated by the drive pedal? And then the 'tone' or 'flavour' of the pedal becomes the key driver (excuse my pun) of tone / sound whilst the pedal is engaged?

Ignore me Mr Hunt, I was just being facetious! I guess my experience of selling and buying has been the opposite to what a few folk on this thread have been implying, but that is all I have to go on. I've sold and bought a LOT of bass gear over the the past couple of years, and frankly I can't be positive enough about my fellow BC'ers who have been a pleasure to deal with and hugely trustworthy. But I appreciate that's not what this thread is about, so I'd probably best take my positive slant elsewhere!

The lack of presets is definitely the BIG shortcoming (see my earlier post which you quoted), I agree. But yet another pedal requiring deep menu diving / PC editing and needing to use midi is more off putting for me!

Kinda interesting that SA are finally now rushing to get their C4 out having originally announced quite a while back. But feels like their delay in getting to market may have cost them. It's also interesting that some gigging bassists (including me!) are thinking of opting for the SY-1 over the C4, particularly where they don't already have SA Neurohub and midi, both of which are going to be needed (together with PC editing) to get the most out of the C4. For me the C4 is very much an alternative to the FI which I already have. I might have got a C4 out of curiosity rather than expecting it to displace the FI; but the easy workflow and accessible real time tweakability of the SY-1 is really attractive for live use and the fact that it's 2/3 the price of the C4 is a canny pricing decision on the part of Boss. I've not considered getting a Boss pedal in a long time, other than the LS-2, but Boss seem to have really raised their game and I'm suddenly thinking of getting both their new releases.

Completely agree that if the buyer can't be bothered to read the information in your ad that is definitely frustrating. There's clearly a skill in getting a balance between reproducing the manual in full, in your ad, and keeping your potential buyer interested. Tbf most BC'ers are pretty clued up / already know what they're after and are more interested in condition (a decent pic is always welcome!) and price.

Yup - we know you're no more a fan of the Grizzly than I am of scooped fizzy dirt pedals! 😉 However we do both think Yammy BB1025/Xs are the business! The Spark is getting a LOT of love and does seem worth a try for anyone looking for a dirt - and it's clearly good value.

And the more recent ones aren't too shabby either! 😀

I think it's perfectly legit to ask the seller any Qs you might have as a buyer, stupid or otherwise IF you are genuinely interested and without having to read the entire manual from cover to cover or do 20 hours of research on Google. Of course, no one has time for time-wasters who are not actually interested in buying. You'd hope the seller should already be able to answer Qs about the thing he or she is trying to sell and, as one of the earlier posters said, they can always update their ads to reduce repeat Qs. At the end of the day treat your potential customers with respect, after all it's you who wants their money. Simples.

I'm interested. But is it any good for metal?

Yeah, soz about doing all of that. But you never really did properly explain the point of FRFR to me very well, nor what happened to the whole 510A series and why we now only seem to have 310As and 710As... 😁

Grizzly Bass

Looking forward to doing a shoot out with my Grizzly Bass at some point soon then. That thing doesn't lose ANY low end at all! (But costs 5x the price of the SB - so no question which is the better value pedal!)

Any loss of low end, Dave?

Just lovely. Congratulations ped!

For the sake of balance (and to remove the image that krispn has kindly put in our collective heads), what are the key advantages of 3-way systems?

Two excellent YT demonstrations of the pedal. Tim Starace - demonstrating how the Geddy pedal can do 'Geddy' flawlessly. Been up on YouTube a while so you may have seen this one already, but he's a really impressive bassist! Excellent (recent) explanation by DistortedBass (a TB'er) of how the pedal does everything else besides Geddy.

Oh my, is that what I think it, is Kenny boy? 😄

Is the one on BCcab 112 by any chance the same one as on the Fearless F112?

Their CN212 is an amazingly good cab, I agree! Swept me off my feet and caused me to trade in my VK 210 LNT which I'd been (and remain) a very big fan of. But I don't think the Berg 112s have the same power handling / output as the BF BB2 or Fearless 112 (or even my BF SC)? So I would find them harder to use as a one cab solution than the other three.

Cheers @stevie I bet it's going to look great! Can't wait to see the finished product

Believe me I, and I hope all of us, would be equally up in arms if Alan Cringean's or Jon Shuker's designs were 'taken' by Fender or Gibson without their consent and no compensation / royalty payments provided to these two wonderful gents for their designs. But it has to be a two-way street.

Definitely a lot less clear cut than stealing some else's designs! For some reason the law gives one greater protection than the other, but they both represent creativity in my books. In the case of that particular song, it's about the bass hook, apparently...our bass lines are more important than our band mates sometimes give us credit for!

Be also interested to see what @dave_bass5 makes of it when he's had it for a couple of weeks as he and I both have Yammy Pro basses - in particular whether it's significantly better than Mojomojo. I had the MM a couple of years back and it's definitely great value, but probably a "7/10" pedal over all - perhaps a touch too muddy / dark for my liking. The Spark seems, from comments, so far to address both of those? Given the recent half a dozen purchases of the Spark over the past week or so, there may even be a couple coming up used