Al Krow

Be very interested to hear from you on the pro/cons of this vs the YYZ when you've had a chance to put it through its paces, and also whether either is doing something that you can't get to on a Helix.

^^ This.

Heat treatment - Bass Gallery Camden.

Although undoubtedly an example of a front facing driver, right? 😁

Thanks for taking the time to share that. You make some very valid points. The FI is definitely not an off the shelf pedal, but does require considerable investment of time to get the most out of it. Worth having a chat with @Quatschmacherabout what's available in terms of usable bass synth sounds, if anyone can point you in the right direction I'm sure he can! I'll be interested in what you end up getting.

I'm not convinced...** ** thanks to @andybassdoyle for this C5 pic on a separate filter and synth thread, which was very amusing at the time

Tbf you will have gathered my views on Berg cabs from the first sentence of this thread and I continue to be a very happy owner of a CN212 which, for me, is right up there amongst the best, if the not the best cab I've ever owned. However, even the very best engineers / designers don't always get everything right and what can seem a good idea on paper can sometimes fall flat in reality, or take several iterations to refine. If this does represent an "upgrade" over purely front facing drivers, I'd jump at the chance of getting one.

The big fear is holographic = mushy. Love to hear one used in anger.

There are two aspects to how well an octave tracks: - how low it tracks before glitching; - how tightly it tracks (minimal latency). Analogue octave pedals generally tend to be pretty tight (and as compared to digital, which typically have greater latency). So are you mainly focusing on the first aspect? And then there is the question of how the pedal sounds e.g OC2 vs Octamizer for two broad camps, and what you're looking to use it for. E.g.: - thickening up your sound by layering along with your clean; or - providing a synth tone of solo sub + filter + drive? So what is going to be a good recommendation will very much depend on your key focus.

What a fantastic presentation for your review - very professional! Would it be possible to use Google translate or similar for us 'useless' English speakers who have not mastered German?

Loving been introduced to Kinga's work by Q, she is such a fresh and fun and very talented bassist:

+1 ^^

Or may even simply be down to the quality of the sound recording and playback via YouTube and the fact that our hearing is less attuned to the very lowest pitches? I think the fact that your ears are telling you something different when playing it yourself is the better test. I've just spent a couple of mins on my 1825 and compared 'like for like' i.e. the F# on the 7th fret of the low B string with the F# on the 2nd fret of the E string. The low B 7th fret had the meatier sound of the two. The only note on the low B string that didn't punch through quite as much was the open low B itself, which tbf I've never really noticed as it doesn't get used that much (I tend to find myself more using the C#, D and Eb for the very lowest notes).

My three Ibbys are all quite different 'flavours' - SR 1825, Portamento and a GVB36. Given you've got an SR 1805 do you have a particular SR Premium in mind? Interested in your thinking about getting another one i.e. won't they be pretty much exactly the same?

Nope, the 310As are our PA speakers. For pub gigs where we are providing the PA, I just use my BF cab as both audience and stage cab - no monitor for the bass. The BF SC has excellent dispersion though, so relatively easy to hear myself.

Ah yes, both fair points! Look forward to getting your feedback on it when you've had a chance to put it through its paces.

The used one in the FS didn't appeal?

You may be right, and that's kinda the big question mark for me. But is that the same kinda thinking that said there's a reason that all bass amps should be valve amps. Until they weren't. ? PS and there have been some notable exceptions along the way eg the Schroeder 1212. RCF are great, I agree. Are you using a 310A as your floor monitor?

Fair (as ever John!), although it's the point about having to take another piece of kit (another floor monitor) and set it up. On cost grounds your suggestion would be a lot cheaper. However, I suspect you would get nothing like the quality of bass coming through a floor monitor as compared to the rear speaker from this cab. You will be hearing, I suspect, as close as possible what your audience is hearing. That's potentially a massive plus, no?

Correct. I was apparently once someone who knew a bit about this stuff (albeit a few decades ago in my misspent youf when I played a six string). Tbf this stuff has not really changed at an Earthbound level since that geezer Newton. (Although that Geezer Butler has also produced some pretty heavy weight stuff). We can work out the impact of the additional gravitational pull of a 312 vs a 310 pretty easily by plugging into a formula...answer below** **Ans. = f*** all.

Yup and a 312 too! But it's nearly 50 lbs otherwise I would have, for sure, gravitated to that one instead!

Jim Bergantino makes some of the finest bass cabs on the planet. The HG310 looks potentially awesome and at 35 to 36 lbs it's going to be a manageable weight. For those of us not tempted by IEM, could this be a real boon in allowing us to place the speaker parallel to the PA and the rear facing cab then gets easily heard by bass player and the band, but with no more (and possibly less) boominess via the vocal mics than than a normal cab in typical backline position? 6 ohms is going to hurt my head in working out what load that translates to with my amps. Rule of thumb I understand is that an 8 ohm cab will translate to 60% to 66 2/3 % of a 4ohm cab, so I'm guessing that a 6 ohm cab will be around 80% of a 4ohm cab equivalent? Not cheap, but quality such as this never is and I'm sure I'm not alone in regarding our cabs as being the secret, and some times undervalued, weapon in a great bass sound.

We would still be in Stone Age (the Rolling Stone Age) without it.

+1^^ Great Zombie thread back from the dead to coincide with Halloween! Following!

Out of interest, why keep both?