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[quote name='Spike Vincent' timestamp='1487757265' post='3242412'] The Tokai Thunderbirds are extremely nice well made quality instruments,but they take neck dive to the level of an olympic sport. [/quote] Neck what?

[quote name='Harryburke14' timestamp='1487672008' post='3241618'] I want a thunderbird but after playing an epi one at PMT yesterday I found it hard to get on with given the neck being so long. [/quote] This doesn't really make a lot of sense. At 34", the scale length is comparable/the same as that of a Jazz/Precision. OK, sure the body shape might add to the illusion that the neck keeps going, but it doesn't! Just check Google for photos of Fenderbirds...lots of Thunderbird bodies with Fender necks on them.

Musically, Japan. The early period only, mind. Adolescent Sex/Obscure Alternatives/Quiet Life. More recently, Motion City Soundtrack.

Gibson have had some fairly crazy/unconventional designs historically and there's been plenty of redesign to get a bass from a fundamentally guitar design (Firebird/Thunderbird et al). While I really like the weirdness of the Moderne and Futura (also the original Explorer with the V-shaped split headstock), I honestly don't know how a Moderne or Futura bass would size up...I seem to remember someone building a Futura bass (google confirms this) and its a monstrosity! I suppose the best you could do is check out some old Hamers to see what you can achieve; they seemed to pillage through old Gibson designs and make them their own for a bit.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1487673683' post='3241646'] it's not like Gibson are going out of their way to advertise or promote the new EB Bass. Although a couple of people are sat with it, it's not mentioned in the Gibson USA 2017 New Model Year video. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1aIPdOdXdI"]https://www.youtube....h?v=v1aIPdOdXdI[/url] [/quote] I'm not one for dissing on anyone's ability, we all have to start somewhere, but for the love of god couldn't Gibson have gotten someone/anyone [i]better [/i]or perhaps more[i] adept [/i]than Noah Sierota (from Echosmith) to play that EB? It doesn't actually look to bad in that clip. Christ on a bike. Fender = Geddy Lee, Yamaha = Billy Sheehan, MusicMan = John Myung. I could go on. They could have flown me and Neeph over. At least we've been buying and playing their instruments for a while.

While I favour Thunderbirds, Gibson really missed a trick limiting them to (primarily) sunburst, black or ivory finishes, or the odd walnut or cherry ones (let's not talk about the gold monstrosity), especially considering the variety on the six string front. I have a mate who owns a Yamoto Thunderbird in sapphire blue and it is gorgeous. Look, while there's some lacklustre basses in this year's range, it's not like you can't pick up a Gibson bass; there's always availability. So 2018. What would I like to see? In the unlikely event that the 20/20 will reappear(!), then a faithful Thunderbird II reissue, using the nitro 60s custom colour palette. Two part bridge, oversized headstock, chrome. F*ck it, relic it if necessary. What do I know?

Incidentally, while we're on the subject of Beans, there's a band who gig around Berkshire, Surrey, Hampshire called Pensevor, both the guitarists play TBs. Well, when I say both of them, the guitarist favours a TB1000 (the Gibson 335 shaped one) and the bass player uses something that has a Travis Bean neck, bridge, pickups and controls in the right place, it's got the serial number stamped into the headstock, but the body shape is all wrong and the horns are too long and thick. I spoke to her about it once and she was a bit dumb to it, really didn't want to talk about it or know what it's history was.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1487584202' post='3240840'] Perhaps as an initial payout...yes. However, as dannybuoy says, the fact that they last a loooong time, makes them cheaper in the long run. [/quote] Anyone got a decent set that's only been on a bit that they're getting shot of? Precision length. I'm actually quite tempted, bit for the price. I could be converted to the dark side. I've just put a fresh set of Nanowebs on my P. It'll be a few months.

Yikes. Why so expensive?

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1487343277' post='3239167'] They are FLATS !!!....they are not meant to sound like rounds. They are meant as an alternative. [/quote] It's amazing isn't it that despite 50 or 60 years of string innovation, coatings, wraps, hex/circular cores, freezing them, boiling them, groundwinding them (and so on), the battlefield really just still comes down to flats vs. rounds. You know, I'm generally interested in putting a set on my Precision if only to try and calm down the toppy frequency. A test if you will.

[quote name='Shaggy' timestamp='1487410987' post='3239545'] A certain Mr Wyman also a player of these of course.... [/quote] You know, his were custom build short scales.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1487357277' post='3239322'] Also there are some Chinese knock offs that are supposed to sound pretty close: http://www.eyguitarmusic.com/Thunderbird-Bass-Pickup-Vintage-Style-for-GibsonChromeNickel_p_2287.html I have a set waiting to go into a bass when I get the time. [/quote] Somebody on the LBO made an off the cuff remark about how, 'wouldn't it be funny if these pickups were the same ones as those going into the new Epiphones and it was all a lark on Gibsons part to get pickups tested and review the opinions made by vintage Thunderbird owners'.

Oh, my music collection is peppered with stuff that generally draws a blank. Shudder To Think Millicent Friendly Summercamp Sugarbomb Tsar The Trachtenburg Fanily Slideshow Players Taxiride Straw Powder The Drills The Penfifteen Club The JTG Implosion Cider Hot One Farewell Continental Bleu The Major Labels ...want any more?

Many moons ago, my first bass had flats on it. When I broke a G-string, the local guitar place only had rounds so being the poor lad that I was, I just bought a round G. I spent the next few weeks playing almost exclusively that string in awe of its zingy characteristics. With this in mind, I never played flats after those strings came off. Why would I want my bass to sound like it had year old rounds on it?

Thank you! You're really too kind!

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1482327848' post='3199604'] Why does BC not have a 'LIKE' button already?!? [/quote] I've raised this previously! It was switched off in late 2011. Under 200 people voted on it and I think one post mentioned there were 19,000 members at that point and only 21% of the 200 votes wanted a like button. No idea how many members here now, six years later. Here's a linky: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/160616-vote-on-the-basschat-reputation-system/page__st__240

Sometimes I kind of have these ideas in my head that just seem to make sense to me and when I try to quantify things, it doesn't really come out right. It's a curse. Let's assume the tonal range of my bass is represented on a scale 1-10, with 1 being the bass side and 10 being treble/full open. If I roll the tone back halfway, theoretically I should just be hearing a range of 1-5 (with the lower frequencies intact), yes? Now then, is it possible that the tone will alter (or bleed) across the entire frequency range, thus rather than above 1-5, I would get 3-5? Hopefully, this makes some sense...I fully understand about treble cut, but the bass previously sounded less robust when I rolled off the tone.

[quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1487259767' post='3238456'] If they don't want a black person or a woman in their serious Beatles tribute band (for example), I don't have a problem with that. [/quote] What about a Rutles tribute band? I'll get my coat...

While I've yet to try the Delano in a full tilt rehearsal, the tone at lower volumes has a fairly pleasing mid-scoop. What I'd like to do is somehow retain the tone of the lows/mid-scoop and cap the level of highs hitting my pre-amp.

I've owned a couple of Precision basses over the years, an old '79 Fender (gone) and a '78 Aria beater. Both had been through a handful of pickup installations from the basic (bypass tone and wire into the jack) to 18v EMG pickup set. I've just put a Delano in the Aria and while it does sound lively, I've been giving some thought to the tone pot capacitor option. Will changing the capacitor do much to change the feel or better the overall tone of the pickup? If so, recommendations?

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1487156537' post='3237545'] There are lots of them. [url="http://www.gramophone.co.uk/awards/2016"]http://www.gramophon....uk/awards/2016[/url] [url="http://awards.classical-music.com/"]http://awards.classical-music.com/[/url] [url="http://www.celticmusicradio.net/scotstrad2016/"]http://www.celticmus.../scotstrad2016/[/url] [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yrkrj"]http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/b00yrkrj[/url] [/quote] I think my stance here is that we live in a country where there's this expectation that we aren't supposed to see or discriminate against people of colour, but we are drawn into this thing of colour exclusivity. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that, with some naivety here, if there wasn't so much (media) attention focussed on a colour agenda - or specifically the word 'black' - then you would live in hope that the whole issue of racism would disappear. I see people like Reginald D. Hunter on TV and we have a running gag in our house to see how long it will be before he says he's black. 'Yes, mate. We can see that.' Just in closing, we have some friends who about fifteen years ago became darlings of the BBC as the go-to family for Chinese stuff (it's a wonder Auntie hasn't approached them for one of those [i]Back In Time For Dinner[/i] shows). My mate's wife (Hong Kong born, raised in the east end of Landaan), would regularly describe herself as 2nd generation Chinese and on a couple of occasions as a banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside). The Beeb man asked to refrain from using the expression, which made her use it more. I asked her once why she felt the Chinese contingent were largely ignored by the media, to which she pretty much said, [i]'Because we keep ourselves to ourselves, we don't push an agenda onto anyone else and aside from our eyes, we're pretty much white, ain't we?'[/i]

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1483736189' post='3209779'] I know. Thing is, we had the whole thing structured to underline our disdain for misogyny, hatred and division. Four of us, OK? * Two whites, one black, one from mid-east. * One gay, one straight, one bi-sexual, one straight-edge celibate * A Christian, a Jew , a Muslim and an atheist who'd previously been a pantheist which was a bit of a jolt for him, having to go straight through monotheism without stopping. * A vegan, a vegetarian, a fruitarian and a carnivore who spurned vegetables. It would have been a Blue Mink-styled 'Melting Pot' of hope for the 21st century if a bunch of fascist snowflakes hadn't ruined everything. [/quote] I need this in a Venn diagram form for it to make any sense.

[quote name='radiophonic' timestamp='1487147018' post='3237409'] Didn't Mick Karn play one for years (pre-Wal)? I know that Bob from Shellac uses one and it sounds like thunder. The post-Hardcore/ post-Rock scene were big buyers of these and prices went sky high, so I'd definitely be looking at an EGC as an alternative. I think there's a waiting list though. [/quote] Mick Karn, yes. I'm almost certain he owned two...one was stolen very early on in his career, the second was a later model (wide wings). Another user I knew of was the late Peter Sweval of the band 70s US band Starz.

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1483460903' post='3207312'] I've always been slightly uncomfortable about the MOBO awards. Is there a MOWO awards? [/quote] I've always felt the same thing. I've been mulling this question over for about half hour now and virtually every bullet point I can think of makes me sound like a fanatical Nazi, which I'm not, by the way.