Dood

Already posted in the Build Diaries, here's my signature Shuker.

I have a build diary here : [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3746"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3746[/url]
but here's a quick shortcut : [url="http://www.danveall.co.uk/Shuker7Page.htm"]http://www.danveall.co.uk/Shuker7Page.htm[/url]

Here's just a couple of pics from the above diary, with the Green/Purple flip paint in full effect!

[quote name='deano-bassist' post='58534' date='Sep 11 2007, 12:56 AM']rite this has been bothering me for a while. which custom bass maker is better Conklin or overwater judged on the basses only. this question is partly inspired by my hunger for a custom bass[/quote]


I guess the most obvious answer before taking ANYTHING else into account. Conklin is in the US, Overwater is on our side of the water. It's easier to go visit whilst the build is taking place, something I strongly advise if you are going custom, as you'll be able to make sure he bass fits your requirements and to try out stock items too.

I don't really think you can just say 'oh one is better than the other', there are just too many variables involved.(And so many awesome builders out there!!) As has been discussed many times on the board, a custom build is a very personal thing and it is as much the relationship with the builder and his understanding your needs, as it is having a nice bass made for you.

To open the discussion further, is there a reason why you have picked those 2 builders alone?

[quote name='Alun' post='59778' date='Sep 13 2007, 11:31 AM']It's a funny thing with bassists - a pianist wouldn't worry that their piano was too much for the pop songs they play on it

Cheers,
Alun[/quote]

Yes, another reason why I can't understand the whole 'how many strings' debate!

[quote name='theosd' post='59387' date='Sep 12 2007, 05:14 PM']Look into MarkBass amps and combos.[/quote]

I would say markbass are far from a 'HiFi' sound. They are very good, but in AB tests there are plenty of others that are more suitable for the application asked for above.

Yeh, I was talkin to Pin and they have a single singer. It *will* be different to the original Sikth style vocally, but the music will be in the same vein, mebbe a little more songy, he describes.

Still that doesn't mean what has been said is set in stone I guess.

In response to the countless pictures of people holding their digicamera at arms length and looking up into the lens, doing that porn star pout on MySpace .. I have ermmm.. done the same lol.

Thankfully for you guys, I cant log on to my page and wont be inserting any images lol..

Funny you should mention those Mackies. They were defintely on my hotlist when I was looking for a 'pa like' rig. I had been warned off them by a local shop who said they'd all but one of the several pairs they sold back in for repair. Obviously this is only one shop and there maybe more to it.. but I was a bit gutted really, as they had quite an impressive sound for the money.

I reckon the POD straight into them would be pretty massive. Especially if you added some stereo chorus in 50% ;o)

I do feel rather drawn to this amp, considering I have the UL610 cab to match it with. What configuration is the effects loop? series / parallel?

Could I be thinking about selling my powersoft???

Oh, I forgot to say: Bass is central to many many genres of music round the world. It doesn't matter how it is produced; I think that no matter how technology and music tastes change over the years, the 'bass guitar' in what ever form will never 'die out'. Thats just ridiculous. It's a legitimate tool for composition and performance that transcends musical 'pigeon holes'.

It looks like a 'how many strings' discussion is brewing! ;o)

I think B_F and I have warmed over this discussion in the past! *nudges john* My reply will sound hippy and 'lets all get along', but I'm right .. The 4 string is hear to stay, so is the 5, 6, 7, 11, make it a baker's dozen!

There isn't any one 'better' instrument, its not a bl**dy competition. If someone wants to be in the pocket and groove on his 13 string, or another wants to slap and tap his 4 till his fingers bleed, then so be it. I just can't be bothered with close minded attitudes with ref to what an instrument is expected to do and how it is to be played.

Just Play it! Play it well!

gurgle gurgle!

[quote name='Platypus' post='58703' date='Sep 11 2007, 01:38 PM']'course you can allways sell them as scrap metal in the future [/quote]

Mine are used to hold up the severn bridge ;o)

lol!! That makes sense!! Lets hope that there are other suplliers of quality bridge tuners!!

[quote name='3V17C' post='58623' date='Sep 11 2007, 11:00 AM']....."Pointy things, Pink things"

hmmmm.......

I'm selling my immaculate Ibanez SB900 Limited Edition - Pointy [i]and[/i] Pink (..well ish!) - it has kinda 'two-tone' paint that looks different depending on what light its in - (goes from a kinda pinky lilac to bluey purple), active, fantastic fast thin neck, original hard case. Yours for £350 + postage therefore leaving you plenty of change for spending on other goodies!!

peace

c[/quote]

I love the look of that bass Clive. the curves on the top make it look like it is melting! Sooooooo nice!

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='57827' date='Sep 9 2007, 06:09 PM']Lazy and stupid journalism just makes the journalist look lazy and stupid.[/quote]


I think that pretty much sums it up IMO!

I won't need the tickets after all.. sorry for not getting back to you mate.

[quote name='Sibob' post='58433' date='Sep 10 2007, 08:48 PM']what do you reduce sixteen down to?

Si[/quote]

Similar to Mikey's post.. I try to chop it down to sections around 'musical sign posts' or accents for example. 6+2, 3+5 etc

just a silly one that helped me out.. When I count along with those 'odd' time sigs I sometimes get muddled, especially when the music is at a fast tempo. So, instead of saying the word 'seven' (which has 2 syllables and, a rhythm of its own - ok.. maybe its just me who gets confuzzed!) I just say 'sev'

one-two-three-four-five-six-sev-one etc...

ermm, does that actually make sense?

[quote name='Rumble' post='58391' date='Sep 10 2007, 07:16 PM']By "those lovely techniques" are you referring to tapping?! For those, such as yourself, who have mastered the art so that it sounds the dogs whatsits (love your bass BTW, so cool it's almost arctic!), it's great, but TBPH I have no inclincation to learn it and no opportunity to use it if I was to learn it. The chords are the only bit I really have the chance to play with, so I guess I'm asking whether it's worth keeping a 6'er just for that?[/quote]

Thank U ;o) very kind sir! Well, I wasn't just refering to tapping alone, but it is just one. I like using the high strings for pecussive and strumming techniques as well. Hell! I have even played rhythm guitar parts all the way through a song to give it a bit more energy. I think chords are a great technique on bass, as you can really dig deep! Especially if you can get an open low string in there too!

Another style you could look at is maybe arpeggiating chords? From a guitar point of view, an excellent example would be Andy Summers' playing in the Police. "Every Breath You Take" or "Message In A Bottle" show how chords such as 9ths and other extensions can be split into pleasing riffs and turn arounds. Something to try on the bass too?

mmmm you got me thinking now! I'm off to play!!!!

[quote name='lwtait' post='58328' date='Sep 10 2007, 05:30 PM']Dood, that is one seriously nice bass! And I don't normally like single cuts.[/quote]

Thank you so much! I love it to bits! The second one is going to be..ehem.. eye catching, to say the least ;o)

[quote name='andy67' post='58347' date='Sep 10 2007, 05:58 PM']dood - you the man!

I will call john shuker and have a chat re this.....

ta

andy[/quote]

Yes, do! He's a damn good chap. Don't feel let down though if you have a few probs getting through on the phone.. he's the only person in the workshop at the mo.. and no doubt working a noisey machine! ;o)

[quote name='BassManKev' post='58296' date='Sep 10 2007, 04:56 PM']any links to some good sites explaining and demonstrating the various amounts of chords? im new to the 6 string thing too[/quote]


[url="http://www.guitar-and-bass.com/"]http://www.guitar-and-bass.com/[/url] I like Dave's site. Very helpful and some great tools available for use.

Definitely stick with it! As it happens, I really love prog, which seems to lend itself to all those lovely techniques you mention. However, I used to play in a female fronted acoustic/rock band and used tapping / chords and the extended range to play 'acoustic guitar' or piano like parts to fill out the sound. On a few songs I tried to make the bass less 'bass-like', using more of a pecussive, even harpsicord type tone (using additional effects). Big swooshy stereo echos and reverbs sound awesome up the scale, in the same way as they do on our thin stringed cousins.

I also love being able to harmonise with another soloing instrument. Even just a bar or 2 sounds great, for example, whilst Mr guitar slinger is doing his best Brian May impression, find a phrase that stands out in his solo and work out a harmony for it. Brings a solo to life when you play it live, as you can get right up into the same range (give or take..)

[quote name='andy67' post='57841' date='Sep 9 2007, 06:36 PM']dood...

you know that there is an attached stigma in using signature basses,[/quote]
lol Damn that Dan Veall bloke! lol

[quote]do you think john shuker would build a yamaha attitude type bass to my spec?[/quote]

yes yes yes yes and in case that didnt come across clearly.. YES! ;o)

I take it Rob Green at Status couldn't help then?

[quote name='Finbar' post='56970' date='Sep 7 2007, 02:03 PM']Dood - I'm not quite sure what you mean? Is it like a cut away on the tail end of the bass where your right arm would sit or something? My mate Andy has the 6 string version, I could just go and find out what you mean from looking at it, but I'm feeling a little lazy at the moment! I'll probably keep that kind of countouring to a minimum though, and just have it 'nicely curvy'. I would be tempted by the 'belly contour' or whatever it is on the Conklin I have, but I don't think it'll work with the madrone top being attached to the back.[/quote]


Yeh, you pretty much got it there.. it's quite a deep scoop on the forearm rest. Rather comfy. I'm tempted to take the idea onto my next Shuker.

[quote name='TPJ' post='58117' date='Sep 10 2007, 11:59 AM']They are very playable and hang differently than P's and J's. I love playing my Ray but don't always like the tone. A P-Ray would be a great new axe.

Cheers,[/quote]


I always thought a PJ-Ray or even a stu hamm style JPJ-Ray would be a rather cool instrument. Or go the whole hog and have the MM pup AND the P pup. Now there's some tones I'd like to hear!

On a side note.. I really love those #all black' OLP MM's. Black hardware, black paint job, matching headstock and the pearly pick guard. Just looks 'right' ;o)