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[quote name='Delberthot' post='496194' date='May 23 2009, 06:00 PM']I am a huge John Deacon fan and have always loved his sound. He was my first bass hero and I suppose a lot of what he did has rubbed off on me. I have never had any luck with regular P basses in terms of getting a good sound so what would you recommend to help me get the John Deacon sound?[/quote] There's a few isolated bass tracks on you tube to have a listen to that may also be of help [url="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=queen+bass+only&aq=f"]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type...s+only&aq=f[/url]

Actually, I'd be interested in finding out more about his live rig through the late 80's. I see at Wembely (86) he was using Sunn 412L cabs - but no real information about amps and stuff. I *think* for the 86 gig he was using a Nady wireless? Anyone have any more information?

[quote name='Delberthot' post='496194' date='May 23 2009, 06:00 PM']I am a huge John Deacon fan and have always loved his sound. He was my first bass hero and I suppose a lot of what he did has rubbed off on me. I have never had any luck with regular P basses in terms of getting a good sound so what would you recommend to help me get the John Deacon sound?[/quote] There's loads of information about his basses etc here. Notably his two main basses a 68 and a 67 Fender P [url="http://www.deaky.com/indexE.html"]http://www.deaky.com/indexE.html[/url] [quote name='Delberthot' post='496310' date='May 23 2009, 08:50 PM']my favourite sound is either the Dragon Attack solo or the high up bit on Liar. I'm confident I can get it on my usual rig[/quote] Ahhh I love thise songs! [quote name='rjb' post='497194' date='May 25 2009, 12:00 PM']I can actually get a great Deaky tone with my Thumb NT by using the neck pup, maxing the mid dial flattening the treble and bass. Deaky playing a Thumb bass just wouldn't have been right, though! [/quote] You'd be surprised! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuxS-9t3tnY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuxS-9t3tnY[/url] here's John playing a Warwick (John Entwhistle) 'Buzzard' Bass!

Cool! Let us know how you get on. I love my MarkBass head!

I want to replace me gear with Trace Elliot.

Fantastic stuff.. my recommendations would be to try:- Harma Diamond STR drive tested 12ax7 from Watford valves. 10/10 excellent valve.. Always used them.. if they are good enough for Brian May etc... NOS Telefunken - ECC83s (if you can find one and have pockets deep enough!) NOS JJ ECC803s - Which is very similar to the above - infact I believe the Harma is a JJ, but a premium select / drive tested one, with a rebadge. I'll have to check my docs later. NOS Mullard (if you can find one!!)

[quote name='iamapirate' post='494139' date='May 21 2009, 12:30 PM']PODs (Live) PODs (Studio)[/quote] Absoluetly fantastic if they are SET UP PROPERLY! - So many albums out there have used the Pod in a variety of forms, right from the early V.1 units. The X3 series are monsterous, but a technicaly and geeky disposition is required.. as is time to create FRESH patches yourself and completely ignore EVERY default patch. For live work, I think a little extra work is required. DON'T expect to use that lovely sound you crafted on your earphones / mid prices studio monitors at your next gig when you plug in to your backline / PA. It will sound wierd totally different.. and you'll think the POD sucks! For recording, I either set up a full on amp and effects signal path, Or I set up a clean 'preamp channel' using one of the mic preamps, compression and EQ then if need be apply a tone by reamping/PodFarm or..well.. I still love Ampeg SVX ;o) For live..well.. I have a perfectly good backline and head.. there is no point feeding it with a sim of a backline and a head.. thats a good way to get a mooshy horrible tone. As I have said before, should the band go IEM on tour, then I will rethink the strategy and work on a signal path better suited to that. To sum up.. I like the line 6 stuff. I had a UX2 interface as well. Highly recommended! - But I sold it when I found out the X3 could do everything the UX2 could.. and be a full on foot board too.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='492767' date='May 19 2009, 10:18 PM']Surely there is not enough of a difference between 12s and 15s and 12s and 10s for there to be much point in having a hugely complicated crossover? Would rather have the 2x15 + 2x10 isobaric job Ampeg did, just with neo speakers.[/quote] Yes, I think our resident experts have elluded to the fact that putting too many different sized speakers in one box causes all sorts of problems.. I too would assume that a pretty amazing crossover would be needed for each speaker. however, I would have thought there is too much of an overlap between each for even a crossover to handle, no matter how good? It seems that Alex's cab, using a 15" and a 6.5" alone to cover the frequency range acurately is all that would be required (or multiples of, to move more air). I've noticed that PA manufacturers, such as Mackie use a similar configuration for an acurate reproduction of audio. (With th einclusion of a tweeter of sorts too). Tha aside, yes I would love to hear one.. with a Mark Bass F1 sat on top!!!!

[quote name='project_c' post='487416' date='May 13 2009, 10:56 PM']cheers, thats exactly what i suspected. given that i have no need for a pedal board as the multi comp is the only effect i use, can you suggest a power supply that would eliminate the problem?[/quote] Look for an adaptor that can supply more current than the pedal requires.. Lets face it, that should be too hard to find, as most Adaptors start at about 300mA anyway, which is more than enough. Obviously 9v. AND the bit which will certainly cut down on mains hum. Get a 'regulated' power supply, not a 'unregulated' one. The 'regulating' components (to over simplify) *should* cut down the chances of mains hum and noise getting through to the pedal. Better still, if you have enough pennies in your pocket, look out for the 'Switch Mode Power Supply' versions. They are usually physically smaller, lighter and can handle higher currents vs a 'normal' transformer (for want of a better description) PSU. - They have a far higher mains hum rejection. - Tey are likely to be more expensive though. Interestingly, I found a really old Compaq laptop PSU that I use for my pedals.. It really is tiny in size and can handle driving about 5 pedals (if not more!) at 10v - Really handy find, for a freebie!

[quote name='OldGit' post='492547' date='May 19 2009, 05:51 PM']Maybe it's Love's Candle? That sounds more funky ....[/quote] Fork Handles? Foooooour Candles!!!

[quote name='Bass_In_Yer_Face' post='492487' date='May 19 2009, 04:39 PM']I heard a story that Queen & Chic met in a recording studio somewhere and the mighty Bernard Edwards played JD the line he was working on for 'Good Times'...JD then adapted it for 'Another Bites The Dust'...makes sense.[/quote] I've heard variations o the same story.. and I believe Mr May said something similar in an interview.. but don't quote me as I am losing my.. ... my.. err.. what? I'm going slightly mad!

[quote name='Killstarz' post='491231' date='May 18 2009, 11:44 AM']yep, It's CIJ. Absolutely lovely to play and a bit lighter than my Jazz. sounds nice as well [/quote] I have a black one, with a black guard.. Hmmm...seems that badass looks too good to pass up.. oh dear, more spending!

[quote name='alexclaber' post='491624' date='May 18 2009, 05:31 PM']But it is exchange rate driven - GBP has totally devalued against EUR and USD. Although EUR/USD moved quite a lot a couple of years back the flow of currency from UK to US has stopped USD falling further vs EUR. Alex[/quote] I wanted to say something witty and ask if phase angles were taken in to consideration or something.... [quote name='Platypus' post='491761' date='May 18 2009, 07:32 PM']More gratuitous use of graphs Mr Claber [/quote] but I was beaten to it! - Gotta say though, a picture does paint a thousand words... or decibels... or Hertz... [quote name='Hamster' post='491785' date='May 18 2009, 07:57 PM']Interesting - on that second graph it shows the blip at 3.24pm on a Wednesday afternoon in October when I kicked my mortgage advisor hard in the bollocks! [/quote] coffee>keyboard lol

[quote name='51m0n' post='491643' date='May 18 2009, 05:46 PM']I think my drummer made me watch some of his video, if its who I think it is ('and now we do the paradidlle with the feet at half the speed of our hands' - was a memorable line!) he's clearly not human! Whats it like playing with a drummer like that?[/quote] Ahh yep.. that be him ;o) e does a great 'Arnie' impression too.. yup a machine! There's a You Tube vid we have linked to our our site of him playin' one of our li 'ditties' - Though it was recrded by someone on a camera 'phone, so the sound obviously isn't 'release quality'.. But then, this person *did* get a video when all our kit we were hoping to use decided to..well.. not do anything useful. [quote name='Zoe_BillySheehan' post='491711' date='May 18 2009, 06:43 PM']lol dooood! i didnt even know he was ur drummer. mad. Z x[/quote] Hey Zoe! Yep.. though I'm having to teach him this really difficult beat at the mo' that he just hasn't mastered... dum tish dum dum tish! lol - I jest of course! Very talented!

Best put in this forum actually! Here's a bit of Thomas info too [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lang"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lang[/url]

Hey everyone, Bit of a blatant plug for you. My drummer, Thomas Lang is over for a set of drum clinics for the next two weeks in association with Mike Dolbear. Come check him out.. I'll be at a couple of clinics chillin' out too! A full list of dates: Monday 18th May Gateshead " The Drum Shop" 0191 4950201 Tuesday 19th May Manchester "The Drum Centre" 0161 789 4415 Wednesday 20th May Glasgow "Drum Central" 0141 552 0111 Thursday 21st May Gainsborough ‘ Electro Music" 01302 369999 Friday 22nd May Nottingham Masterclass "MIC Academy" 0115 941 7493 Saturday 23rd May Ireland Co Donegal ‘ Reynolds " 00 353 7491 02 222 Sunday 24th May Ireland Dublin "X Music" 00353 1411 1100 Tuesday 26th May Cambridge "idrums" 01763 274810 @ The Junction, Cambridge. Wednesday 27th May London "The Institute of Music" Masterclass 020 7328 0222 Thursday 28th May Colchester "Orchard Percussion" Masterclass 01206 271634 Here's our MySpace should you feel the urge to take the mic out of us all lol! featuring Pin (ex-SikTh), Jamie Hunt (ex-BioMechanical) errmmm some hairy bass player ???? and the afore mentioned tin pot basher! www.withinthevoid.com

It's a shame you are all the way over in Birmingham, as I'd like to compare my 6x10 against the MB again to see how they differ! A job for a future bass bash I am sure. Welcome aboard!

[quote name='alexclaber' post='491363' date='May 18 2009, 02:02 PM']Apart from calling it digital that's quite correct. The 'digital' power supplies are switch mode supplies, which rectify the incoming AC, and then use high frequency switching to turn this DC into high frequency (many kHz instead 50Hz) AC, and then a smaller power transformer (size of power transformer is inversely proportional to the frequency it operates at). You'll find these in tons of modern things, most obviously mobile phone chargers (not how much smaller and lighter they are than 10 years ago). Usually called SMPS. Then they use normal Class AB amps on the 500W models and Class D (which again use high frequency switching but aren't really digital) amps on the 800W+ models. Alex[/quote] Thank you Alex! I think this is soon to become a little pet peave of mine! People calling amps 'digital' grr! he he he he!!!! - I posted on another thread about 'digital' amps.. though I couldn't be bothered to explain the technical side and found a useful article link on the net instead. Anyway, back on topic.. ummm... I must admit, I like the tone that people call 'valve tone', but I really can't be dealing with all this smoke and mystery over valves.. they really aren't special and I am fed up all the guff that surrounds these oh so magical creatures of the tone world that lives inside your amp!!! oooh woopdeee doo Basil! What does it all mean! * You can produce those dirty gnarly tones without valves and ironically.. I know for a fact that certain guitar amps on the market that sell as 'amazing valve distortion' are getting their clipping from none other than diodes, back to back in a feedback loop... errr.. solid state anyone he he! ;o) This isn't a rant.. it makes me chuckle! - Ok... and I really like the MarkBass F1 - It's awsome. *Thanks to Mr Powers for the quote.

Defintely EMG dude ;o) You can see the logo and the pickup shell is 'that EMG shape' too ;o) /geek

I found this, if it's of any use? That would suggest the Ampeg 8x10 'tone' I thought of when I heard the track. [url="http://www.uberproaudio.com/content/view/450/38/"]http://www.uberproaudio.com/content/view/450/38/[/url]

[quote name='M4L666' post='490821' date='May 17 2009, 08:17 PM']So ADGC?[/quote] lol! yes, that would have been quicker to say! lol lol!!!

[quote name='M4L666' post='490798' date='May 17 2009, 07:56 PM']Could you make it XT compatible and email me it? Or is that not possible?[/quote] Some how it's possible I'm sure! - Whilst I'm at it.. I'm after the settings from the XT default 'Classic Rock' patch... or is it Rock Classic? I'm not sure! - I read that Beyon Bruta used an XT to record with and used said patch with very little tweaking. Sadly, the settings arent the same on the X3.. could you note them for me? I'll see what I can do about the X3>XT.. However, I reckon a scoopy bass amp sound .. and maybe try out the 8x10 cab as a starter. - Drop the bass down a tone as the tuning will naturally lend a hand at that burpy tone.

Mhh..well, if the MB controls are anything to go by, the VLE and VPF controls will scoop out the middle, boost the bass smooth off the top end.. but I reckon there is plenty of bite in those EMGs! Looks like his four string is a 5 string without the G (if that makes sense) and then tuned down a tone ;o)