Woodinblack

Agreed - I didn't know anyone apart from a few people I had heard mention (who turned out to be the least interesting). Its unfair to say that nothing was good, there were some groups I was very impressed by although my memory is a bit rubbish and I either can't remember who they were, or didn't know in the first place. I do think it is a good idea, thats for sure, even if it is a little chaotic.

Nah, they are easy to get if you are very well off.. or I guess St Vincent - she seems to have a few spare. Would certainly like one if they turned up cheap!

Thats different from a cash sale though. Even for cash I am still paying the same fees (especially as ebay don't own paypal any more). I have always insisted on paypal for postage (or other methods) but cash only for collection, and I remember last time I looked the only time you were allowed to mention cash payments was for collection. There is obviously nothing to stop you charging a huge amount for shipping and paypal, and free for cash for collection.

I went there a few years ago, some stuff was ok but not really much that grabbed me. I saw the men that will not be blamed for nothing supporting someone a few years ago and they were good.

" NOTE. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THIS GUITAR MAY NOT BE GENUINE. I WILL AUTHENTICATE THIS AND REVISE THIS AD IF NECESSARY ASAP. THANK YOU. "

That is a design patent, a bit different from a technological patent, and although the 'apple patented a rectangle' is how that was always presented, but the patent used in that part was a very obvious rip off by google on the whole design of the iPhone, compared to where andriod was before the release. If I had been them I would have done it too, when you know google are just going to copy anything you try to make.

Ah no, see that is a known scam, nothing to do with the bank. You get a notification saying you had £10,000, you pay out the 9,400 and then it turns out the 10,000 never existed in the first place.

Agreed if you ask for one thing you presumably don’t want another, but from a sellers POV, the bank way is many times safer than PayPal Like anything it depends on if people are buying when you are selling. The more unusual the item the fewer people looking. The amount of times I have looked for something and found out that what I wanted went the previous month for a price I would have been happy to pay

A lot of muti effects work as an input - I seem to have more inputs than anything but mostly use an old ik multimedia floor stomp into whatever your software is. Garage band works, as does amplitube and all that sort of thing, but I am a great fan of BIAS amp (which is often on special offer).

You do realise that there is noone actually there don't you? I was probably a joke, they got you to go someone and just put a screen up to make you think they were there too!

I would be very surprised if you couldn't do that with a helix, or am I missing the unique stage? It is just someone shredding with a synth patch.

Indeed - so when selling the first thing to look for is what they are going for now. Doesn't matter if you bought it at £800, if they are now £600 new you are not getting 700. People also often don't consider the value of the ability to take it back to the shop or claim on the warantee. Unless something is very rare and very expensive I wouldn't pay above 75% for a second hand one in very good condition - hurts when you are selling but that is the way. I just bought a s/h Yamaha Reface, they are £242 at PMT (where I would have bought one if they had price on them, but that is another thread!), most second hand ones on ebay are £210 + 10 shipping - £24 difference for a warantee and take back if you don't like it service? Seems good value to me!

To which the most obvious answer is 'what is the maximum that you'd give for it?'

Chris Squire wasn't really the caring type

Yep, certainly wouldn't be an issue for me. I think for recording (if I did any) I would use the software helix anyway. As a gigging device it seems pretty good. Was going to buy one soon (now my birthday has gone), but maybe I will just wait until @Al Krow sells his for the Mooer

Very jealous of that - next to impossible to find

They were, and probably vice versa, but those are patents, and some of them very obvious patents. That is why the world doesn't use gifs any more and many other things. Patents are supposed to be about protecting innovation, although not what they are used for by large companies these days. But this is not the same thing as actual piracy. Clearly when the android operating system came out the second time, it was a rip off of the iPhone and as such it was an infringment, but what it wasn't was actual theft of the code, it was just doing the same thing in a different way. Apple and Qualcomm was about contract terms, nothing to do with copying anything, apple tried to use intels radio system and qualcomm thought they had an exclusive deal (maybe they did, maybe they didn't). Apple had to pay in the end as intel couldn't make them. I suspect you are clearly misunderstanding my point here, I am not talking about pure angels, I am talking about if a companies way of making an effects pedal is to just copy another company, it doesn't say anything about the quality of innovation. If they did it in such a way as to be stupid enough to even be able to be in breech of copyright in a Chinese court, then it really doesn't show much about their engineering. So I wouldn't be looking for any sudden advance of technology from them, unless someone has already done it. OK, maybe they will be like a behringer, start out copying and end up doing something new, but it doesn't seem to be their business model and when I look at the GE300, it doesn't look like unfamiliar territory. Why bother wasting time with the reviews, you know you are going to buy it anyway

Moving on? In that they were actually prosecuted 5 months ago for theft Yes, but these days actual companies cloning fender basses don't actually slap a fender badge on it (and if they do, then they deserve to be prosecuted). Mooer didn't clone the design, like many people did, such as copying a circuit design or making something that looked like a thing, they actually flat out pirated the software of another company and put it in their product. And it would concern me that someone that did something that amaturish (I mean, couldn't they have at least removed the other companies copyright to make it look like theirs) might not be able to come up with something that original themselves. Maybe they copied the helix this time - I guess we will find out soon! Problem i see with the screen shot you showed is that is the easy bit - any old fool can slap the oscillators, filters and envelopes together*, that is pretty trivial step, but it is the pitch following and triggering that is the bit that makes the problem tricky. Tricky on a guitar, incredibly tricky on a bass. So overall - if they have come up with something that is as good as a helix, what have we gained? Competition? I mean, the helix is already there. Is it much cheaper? And also, if they have come up with something as good as a helix, haven't you recently replaced the helix on your pedalboard with something you acknowledge is not as good? * literally. ie, I could do it, and you don't get older and foolisher..

As is your option, but that doesn't make it necessarily a bad offer, in that you aren't interested but you haven't lost anything. When i was young I had to sell things for way below their value because I had no money and would have been homeless otherwise. Yes, it hurt to sell things too cheap, but not as much as sitting in the street with a nice guitar would have.

I'm guessing that isn't actually a euphemism?

Certainly will help in your quest to have owned all the effects pedals Mind you, as Mooers way of designing effects pedals appears to be stealing them from other people, unless someone else has cracked the problem you want solved, chances are they haven't.

Which is not very many gigs is it?