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i can't help but laugh that they wont all fit on a huge board! its a very nice board however! andy

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1339007085' post='1682392'] The classic in my opinion are amoeg on roids! At the nott sbass bash a guy had one at it was a killer. I'd like that 8x10 too but so impractical for me. [/quote] no its not for me either but im really moving my 610 on because of the pain of my skinny stairs in my house and this thing being about a third of the weight would make it much easier! shame to see my 610 go as i love it but needs must, only prob is selling the thing now! would prefer to trade it for a mb cab but i just dnt see that happening! andy

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1339004448' post='1682327'] FWIW the Markbass Classic cabs look f***ing cool. Not ported though, and i haven't tried one before [/quote] yeh they kinda have an ampeg vibe. very nice theres a really nice 810 classic markbass cab in the for sale section that if i had the money id probably nab! sadly need to sell my 610 first tho for that to happen, or trade it for something he wants! andy

ok cool! not seen a band down my way using markbass.... yeh ive heard good things about barefaced, but always been a bit put off by the look? i dnt know why! (i know i know but markbass are bright yellow!) andy

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1339001828' post='1682271'] As far as wattage goes... My markbass rig consists of a 500w head with one 8 ohm front ported 4x10. I have never had to turn the volume up to halfway on a gig before [/quote] this makes me happy! is the cab an easy lift? andy

tbh i have always had 10's, and also im used to my 610, dnt wanna go down to a 210 as when ive tried 210's before they have seemed loud in the shop but ive never been confident to buy one thinking it might be a waste if everything else swamps it in a band situation. so i see a 410 as a nice smaller but still loud rig. and also seeing as some 410's ive tried seem to put out more lows than the 15's to my ears. and ive never tried a 12 inch speaker. andy

just to add something else to this would 500w drive two of the 410's ok? as the cabs are rated 800w? and they only be getting 250w each? andy

nah to short for welsh! lol

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1338984676' post='1681924'] I just don't understand this. What does it mean? [/quote] yeh i kinda just ignored that bit? andy

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1338980560' post='1681853'] Apparently you need about a 6-8 inch gap around the cab so that the rear port can radiate. All my cabs are rear ported and on some small stages that can cause problems for me. If I could I'd choose front ported cabs. Just takes away another hassle. [/quote] good point as i touched on above my cab has been tight up to the wall before, like you say front ported may a possilbe problem solved andy

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1338979339' post='1681825'] Coupling effect you get from the cab being on the floor, next a wall in yst ctuiryytiurotrrnetr. Each flat surface gives you +3dB in the lows(IIRC correctly anywayand around 100hz i think aswell) which is the same as doubling the power...... If you go to barefacebass.com the archived columns go into it better than I can. I'm only saying it is something to watch outfor in some places as it can be boomy and horrible much of a sound, unless you want that deep soul/motown thing. Without asking or looking I'd say you want a tight and controlled bottom, which you can get with either front or rear port, but IMO front ported cabs are more managable when it comes to acoustics. Taller stacks with fewer speakers help clear up low mids I find. [/quote] got it in one dude! i like a nice deep clear bass, also just thinking my 610 is front ported so maybe the front ported markbass could be a good place to start! ah i see i understand what you mean by coupling now! well i am shoved in the corner at some smaller venues so maybe rear ports could cause a bit of a prob? andy

also id like to stick to 10's as thats just what i know! my 610 has a tweeter but i have that turned off. really may have to take my head up to the normal place i shop for my guitar stuff and try out a few of the markbass cabs! andy

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1338933776' post='1681460'] I have just finished a review in the review section of the Traveller 2x10. Personally if you feel you need more than one 4x10 then one 2x10 won't do you. My plan is to get another and stack vertically so the bass is closer to my ears so I'm not struggling with volume when stood essentially on top of it. It is still damn loud though on it's own. Front or rear ported??? The only benefit of rear port is the overall size of the box is smaller which makes a difference up and down stairs, but with something like a 4x10 rear ported I fear I would be managing the coupling situation far too much. The Traveller is rear ported and using coupling gives the sound a lot bigger feel than what it actually is. For me it's a down side as I don't need loads of bottom in the sound anyway. With a 4x10 I think it'll be worse as the cross talk between drivers coupled with the excessive boomy low's will make the cab very muddy, and being short aswell won't help it. If you are looking at a full markbass setup and need to be loud but with a managable load and sound then 2 of the ney york 2x12 stacked vertically will be plenty loud and very clear, although they only come in 4 ohms. Or 2 of either of the ney york or traveller 1x15's will be practically a good 8x10 volume wise but much clearer in the midrange, and they come with tweeters to add sparkle. Edit. 300 watts into any of th emarkbass range will kill anyone in the room but it depends if you want lots of headroom, thats all the bigger heads give you. Also the LM800 power amp section on really gives out just 600watts and that peak, in one unit that has been tested the continueous power (the actual number we need to be given) was lower than the 500watt of the smaller less expensive heads. The continous of the 500watt heads is just shy of 500, IIRC. [/quote] when you say coupling what do you mean? andy

yeh exactly and the videos on youtube from namm use words like tighter and warmer etc, was looking for a better description! yeh i kinda tend to ignore watts after i had a ampeg pro-6 that was meant to be 1000w! and felt more like 400! but thats good to hear! andy

looks like im gonna be changing to a full markbass rig need to downsize my rig a tad and also make it an easier lift as im now keeping my rig at home and the 610 is a pain to get up and down the stair every time. im looking at eventually getting a couple of 410's not sure what type to get tho as i can't find any videos on the markbass site. im guessing there must be a big difference in the sound as otherwise they'd just sell one or the other, so any owners out there want to give me a quick review? the next question is obviously unless i somehow manage to blag a lm800,sd800 or sd1200 head on a serious bargin ill probs be looking at running a single 410 with probs an lm3/lmtube500 at 300w. people think this will be loud enough for a 4 piece rock/punk band? i had an lm2 about 2 years ago but i ran that through my ampeg and that 4 ohms so it was 500w and it was fine but obviously the 610 moves alot of air and its 200w more! ive also seen alot of people just getting 2 210's but i think the single 210 alone in my situation just wont do it, even tho i have read they are quite loud! just looking for your views guys. andy