Bilbo

Always seemed to have a huge amount of integrity.

Word is coming out that the great bassist Charlie Haden has passed away. I know he has been ill for a long time but am not sure of cause of death yet. Will post if I hear anything. One of my greatest influences in recent years.

My 'beef' is simply that the work involved in translating tab into music is as great as learning dots. So why bother with a shortcut that isn't? Tab is bass-centric and of no use outside of bass-palying. Dots can be passed to a pianist, trombone player, cellist etc etc and (nowadays, at the flick of a switch, transposed up and octave, into treble, alto and tenor clef for sax, trumpet, guitar etc etc. Tab is more like a jigsaw than painting by numbers. It only works if you have the lid

I agree. A high C on a fretless just lacks the warmth and body of a high G. The difference is about 5 notes that. at the top of the neck, sound like sh*t whereas the extra 5 at the bottom on a low B sound stunning. No brainer. Using the high C to p[lay chords is the only justification but, on a fretless, this is high risk territory and even on a fretted sounds lumpy as fcuk. B to G is the one for me. He says! My fretless is a four string and my five string double bass is tuned E - C. Maybe I just need to shut the f*uk up.

In light of lobematt's discussions, I thought it was time we had a conversation about Tab, the practice of representing nots by indicating the fret that each note of a line is played upon in order to allow non-readers a 'short cut' to learning the parts without having to learn to read conventional notation. To be blunt, that is the most dumbass piece of logic I have ever come across in my 33 years of playing. In order to work out something off a tab sheet, particularly something complicated that you may not be able to pick up by ear, you will need to spend at least as much time fart-arsing with it as you would learning it by ear off the recording. If you can't read, learn parts using some sort of transcribing software that slows things down. If you can't 'hear' a part that way, you sure as hell won't be able to figure it out from a tab sheet. If you want to learn how to read something, learn to read the dots. I don't mean sight read fly sh*t on toilet paper, just learn enough to find the notes and translate them onto the neck in the same way you would a tab chart. Reading dots enough for practice and learning is not as demanding as reading dots on a gig but it is useful in communicating ideas. Or am I wrong? Again.

6/10 and I was guessing most of the time. Who the hell are half of these bands? Vampire Weekend? Haim? Never heard of half of them, never mind their bass players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aH4DAa-B_c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F-awFT0hi4

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1404423050' post='2492601'] I don't think of Joao Bosco, Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Djavan, Luis Bonfa as what i would describe simply as Latin music. All are in the MPB ( Musica Popular Brasiliera) section of my music collection which is a whole seperate genre to me. [/quote] They are what they are and all play a much wider scope than pure pop. Bossa, Samba, Samba Reggae blah, blah, blah. Given the nature of trhe query, I think this level of detail is premature. They were included in the list because they come under the umbrella of Latin Music (and are all featured in encyclopedias of Latin Music accordingly). [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKChV_aBLcc[/media]

Ney Conceição is on a lot of Bosco's stuff.

Bugger - I am going on holiday that day. Third gig I have had to turn down!

Kim Mitchell was the guitarist and singer with Max Webster but he has had a solo career post MW. Check out Lemon Wedge from the cd 'Itch'. There is a transcription of the bass part here: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/109178-funky-rock-transcription-kim-mitchells-lemon-wedge/

Joao Bosco, Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Djavan, Celia Cruz, Ozomatli, Airto Moriera, Flora Purim, Dave Valentin, Israel 'Cachao' Lopez, Orlando 'Cachaito' Lopez, The Fort Apache Big Band, Ray Barretto, Robin Jones Latin Sextet, Luis Bonfa, the Buena Vista Social Club, Tito Puente, Afro Cuban All Stars, Santana, Ruben Blades, Ruben Gonzalez, Ibrahim Ferrer.... Come back when you have looked at that lot and I will suggest some more.

I was just reading the Allanah Myles thread and it occured to me how much I have always loved so much of the Rock music that come out of Canada; Rush, Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush, Max Webster, Kim Mitchell, Bachman–Turner Overdrive, Alanis Morrissette, Avril Lavigne, Bruce Cockburn, April Wine, Pat Travers, FM, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Bryan Adams.... not the sort of stuff I listen to any more but the quality was always great. Go Canada!

You are near Jake Newman (Aldershot). Get over to his place for a lesson and talk it over with him. He's a legend!

Cannot watch videos here but try looking up Steps Ahead, Jean Luc Ponty, Dave Valentin, CHick Corea, Return To FOrever, Weather Report, Tribal Tech, Kevin Eubanks, Airto Moriera, Flora Purim, Stanley Clarke, Passport, Dreams, Marcus Miller, Pat Metheny Group....

Always!

Is that Jefferson Airplane?

Any anxieties I had were not about the playing, the piece was quite simple. I was anxious that my recording/engineering skills and kit would be found wanting but apparently not so that is good news for me (and my City and Guilds in Audio Engineering }.

It's all about Chemistry!! When it works, it works.

I recommend this book. It starts easy and gets more and more complicated but incrementally so it is a good workbook. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Musicians-Institute-Encyclopedia-Workbook-Instruments/dp/0793573793/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1403771213&sr=1-1&keywords=reading+rhythms

You can spend the rest of your LIFE dealing with this!!

Voted. Some interesting perspectives as usual. RockfordStone got my vote for his convincing Floyd 'Dark Side Of The Moon' thang!!

My entry for this month. I am surprisingly pleased with it. Dischordant cluster mixed up wiith diminished runs and repeating themes that are lost in the miasma!! https://soundcloud.com/robert-palmer-1/the-final-frontier

I am finding these descriptions unreadable but I haven't got this problem so that is ok. I had a lesson with Jake so my technique is now impeccable. Nearly.

Thanks, Skol. I have a couple of my tracks recorded with proper musicians and the stuff is ok but, to my mind, poorly performed (look for Low Men Dancing on my Soundcloud page - they liked that one but, whilst I like the tune, I am not convinced that the performance is up to par. Having got over the thrill of being asked, I am beginning to think that the professional thing to do may be to pass the offer on to Garry. These guys are connected to me and they deserve to have the best they can afford, even if it isn't me I can give them a link to his stuff and it's up to them then.