CrackerJackLee

I guess the headstock is radical for a cellist... The only challenge is to not be wickedly overshadowed by such an instrument...

Rocker, I sense that you already play along with recordings. I bought one of these and they're great. But I think you are looking for formal exercises that provide interest. The spider exercises are great but monotonous sounding. Have you tried the James Jamerson "Igor" exercise? [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chvin4h8jA4"]https://www.youtube....h?v=chvin4h8jA4[/url] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z4oi6VnN7I"]https://www.youtube....h?v=_Z4oi6VnN7I[/url] Try scale sequences, scale intervals and modes and triad exercises on the major and minor scales. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3RLsgGLi4k"]https://www.youtube....h?v=z3RLsgGLi4k[/url] Marlowe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JodxlPDkD5E Books like this, if you read, are great for melodies. But every tutorial book has little songs. Try nursery rhymes, folk tunes and classical excerpts by note or by ear. Make a list and run through them daily. I have a list of bass riffs, fills, runs, licks and grooves with the keys and BPM's that I run through by ear and by note. Once with fingers and then plectrum. It's fun. A list of songs with interesting bass lines. I'm sure that you have yours. [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3512.htm"]A Little Bit of Soul[/url] Music Explosion A New Day Yesterday Jethro Tull A Shot In The Dark Henry Mancini Abracadabra Steve Miller Ain't That A Groove James Brown [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S905.htm"]All Along the Watchtower[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Jimi%20Hendrix.htm"]Jimi Hendrix[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1247.htm"]All Shook Up[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Elvis%20Presley.htm"]Elvis Presley[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2300.htm"]American Woman[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Guess%20Who.htm"]Guess Who[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2565.htm"]Aqualung[/url] Jethro Tull Baby Come Back Equals Baby Don't Go Sonny and Cher [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3121.htm"]Baby Please Don't Go[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Them.htm"]Them[/url] Back Door Man Doors Back Door Man Willie Dixon [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S876.htm"]Bad Moon Rising[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Creedence%20Clearwater%20Revival.htm"]CCR[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3306.htm"]Badge[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Cream.htm"]Cream[/url] [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_John_and_Yoko"]Ballad of John and Yoko[/url] Beatles Barney Miller Theme Jack Elliott and Allyn Ferguson Batman Theme Neal Hefti Batman Theme Marketts Beat Goes On, The Sonny and Cher Billie Jean Michael Jackson Birthday [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1735.htm"]Black Dog[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Led%20Zeppelin.htm"]Led Zeppelin[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S7306.htm"]Black Is Black[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Los%20Bravos.htm"]Los Bravos[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S861.htm"]Black Magic Woman[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Santana.htm"]Santana[/url] Bonanza Theme David Rose Bony Maronie Johnny Winter Boogaloo Down Broadway Fantastic Johnny C [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S911.htm"]Born to Be Wild[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Steppenwolf.htm"]Steppenwolf[/url] Born Under A Bad Sign [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Albert King[/url] Born Under A Bad Sign [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Cream.htm"]Cream[/url] Born Under A Bad Sign Paul Butterfield Bouree Bach Bouree Jethro Tull [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2887.htm"]Brick House[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Commodores.htm"]Commodores[/url] Brown Eyed Girl Van Morrison Bye Bye Blackbird melody Standard [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1004.htm"]California Girls[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beach%20Boys.htm"]Beach Boys[/url] Cantaloupe Island [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Herbie%20Hancock.htm"]Herbie Hancock[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3786.htm"]Car Wash[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Rose%20Royce.htm"]Rose Royce[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3408.htm"]Chain, The[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Fleetwood%20Mac.htm"]Fleetwood Mac[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4177.htm"]Chameleon[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Herbie%20Hancock.htm"]Herbie Hancock[/url] Chattahoochee Alan Jackson Chromatic Blues traditional [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S942.htm"]Cold Sweat[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/James%20Brown.htm"]James Brown[/url] Come On Down To My Boat Baby every mother's son [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2531.htm"]Come Together[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] Cool Jerk Capitols Crosscut Saw [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Albert King[/url] Cross-Eyed Mary Jethro Tull Crossroads Blues [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Cream.htm"]Cream[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3231.htm"]Cry Like a Baby[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Box%20Tops.htm"]Box Tops[/url] Dance, Dance, Dance [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beach%20Boys.htm"]Beach Boys[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1005.htm"]Day Tripper[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2542.htm"]Dazed and Confused[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Led%20Zeppelin.htm"]Led Zeppelin[/url] Der Kommissar Falco [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1431.htm"]Dirty Water[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Standells.htm"]Standells[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S637.htm"]Disco Inferno[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Trammps.htm"]Trammps[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S902.htm"]Dock Of The Bay[/url] Otis Redding [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1718.htm"]Domino[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Van%20Morrison.htm"]Van Morrison[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1668.htm"]Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Animals.htm"]Animals[/url] Down On The Corner CCR Dragnet Main Title Walter Schumann [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1043.htm"]Everybody Needs Somebody to Love[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Solomon%20Burke.htm"]Solomon Burke[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3832.htm"]Expressway to Your Heart[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Soul%20Survivors.htm"]Soul Survivors[/url] Feel So Bad Elvis Presley Feel So Bad Little Milton [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1272.htm"]Fever[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Little%20Willie%20John.htm"]Little Willie John[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2792.htm"]Fever[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20McCoys.htm"]McCoys[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2792.htm"]Fever[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Peggy%20Lee.htm"]Peggy Lee[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3468.htm"]Fire[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Jimi%20Hendrix.htm"]Jimi Hendrix[/url] Fire Pointer Sisters [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3076.htm"]First I Look at the Purse[/url] J Geils Band Fooled Around And Fell In Love Elvin Bishop Footprints Miles Davis For A Thousand Mothers Jethro Tull Forty Four Blues Johnny Winter [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1493.htm"]Foxy Lady[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Jimi%20Hendrix.htm"]Jimi Hendrix[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1316.htm"]Freddie's Dead[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Curtis%20Mayfield.htm"]Curtis Mayfield[/url] Funeral March of a Marionette Charles Gounod Funk No.49 James Gang [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S9037.htm"]Funky Broadway[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Wilson%20Pickett.htm"]Wilson Pickett[/url] Funky Town Lipps Inc Game Of Love Wayne Fontana George Of The Jungle George Of The Jungle [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S892.htm"]Get Back[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1012.htm"]Get Off of My Cloud[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Rolling%20Stones.htm"]Rolling Stones[/url] Get Out of My Life, Woman [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Albert King[/url] Get Ready Rare Earth Ghost Busters Ray Parker Jr Gillette To Look Sharp March Boston Pops Gloria Shadows Of Knight Gloria [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Them.htm"]Them[/url] Going Down Freddie King Going Down Johnny Winter [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4195.htm"]Goo Goo Muck[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Cramps.htm"]Cramps[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S970.htm"]Good Lovin'[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Rascals.htm"]Young Rascals[/url] Good Morning Little School Girl Johnny Winter Good Thing FYC [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S961.htm"]Good Vibrations[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beach%20Boys.htm"]Beach Boys[/url] Got My Mojo Workin' Johnny Winter Got My Mojo Workin' Muddy Waters Green Eyed Lady SugarLoaf [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1081.htm"]Green Onions[/url] Booker T and the MG's [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S880.htm"]Green River[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Creedence%20Clearwater%20Revival.htm"]CCR[/url] Groove Me King Floyd Guitar Town Steve Earle [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S7491.htm"]Hang On Sloopy[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20McCoys.htm"]McCoys[/url] Happening, The Supremes Hawaii Five-O Ventures [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4095.htm"]Heart Full of Soul[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Yardbirds.htm"]Yardbirds[/url] Heartbreaker/living Loving Maid {she's Just A Woman} [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Led%20Zeppelin.htm"]Led Zeppelin[/url] Help Me Johnny Winter [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1074.htm"]Help Me[/url] Sonny Boy Williamson II Here Comes My Baby Tremelos [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S965.htm"]Hey Joe[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Jimi%20Hendrix.htm"]Jimi Hendrix[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1113.htm"]Hit the Road Jack[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Ray%20Charles.htm"]Ray Charles[/url] Homework J Geils Band Homework Otis Rush Hoochie Coochie Man Muddy Waters [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1262.htm"]Hound Dog[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Elvis%20Presley.htm"]Elvis Presley[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1025.htm"]House of the Rising Sun[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Animals.htm"]Animals[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1542.htm"]I Can't Help Myself[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Four%20Tops.htm"]Four Tops[/url] I Can't Turn You Loose Otis Redding I Dig Rock And Roll Music [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Mamas%20and%20the%20Papas.htm"]Mamas and Papas[/url] I Don't Need No Doctor Humble Pie [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3192.htm"]I Feel Fine[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] I Got You, I Feel Good James Brown [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S2415.htm"]I Saw Her Standing There[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4110.htm"]I Started a Joke[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Bee%20Gees.htm"]Bee Gees[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S8806.htm"]I Think We're Alone Now[/url] Tommy James Igor Exercise [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1319.htm"]I'll Take You There[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Staple%20Singers.htm"]Staple Singers[/url] I'm A Man Chicago I'm A Man [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Spencer%20Davis%20Group.htm"]Spencer Davis[/url] I'm A Woman Peggy Lee [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I"]I'm Down[/url] Beatles I'm Going Down Bruce Springsteen I'm Going Home Ten Years After I'm Mad John Lee Hooker I'm Not Your Stepping Stone Monkees I'm Ready Johnny Winter [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4365.htm"]I'm Ready[/url] Muddy Waters I'm Ready Willie Dixon I'm Sitting On Top Of the World Cream [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3552.htm"]Immigrant Song[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Led%20Zeppelin.htm"]Led Zeppelin[/url] In A Gada Da Vida Iron Butterfly In A Silent Way Miles Davis [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S996.htm"]In the Midnight Hour[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Wilson%20Pickett.htm"]Wilson Pickett[/url] Jack The Ripper Link Wray [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1235.htm"]Jailhouse Rock[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Elvis%20Presley.htm"]Elvis Presley[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1643.htm"]James Bond Theme 007[/url] John Barry Jesu Joy Apollo 100 Joker, The Steve Miller [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S6944.htm"]Judy in Disguise (With Glasses)[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/John%20Fred%20and%20His%20Playboy%20Band.htm"]John Fred and His Playboy Band[/url] Jumpin' Jack Flash Johnny Winter [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S819.htm"]Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)[/url] Temptations Juvee Original Kansas City [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Albert King[/url] Kawanga! Los Straitjackets Keep On Running Spencer Davis Kicks Paul Revere Killing Floor [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Albert King[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4093.htm"]Killing Floor[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Howlin%20Wolf.htm"]Howlin' Wolf[/url] Killing Floor Johnny Winter Knock On Wood [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Eddie%20Floyd.htm"]Eddie Floyd[/url] Knock On Wood [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Otis%20Redding.htm"]Otis Redding and Carla Thomas[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1958.htm"]La Bamba[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Los%20Lobos.htm"]Los Lobos[/url] La Bamba Ritchie Valens [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Madonna"]Lady Madonna[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1434.htm"]Land of a Thousand Dances[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Wilson%20Pickett.htm"]Wilson Pickett[/url] Last Kiss Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S605.htm"]Le Freak[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Chic.htm"]Chic[/url] Leavin' Blues Taj Mahal Lemon Song [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Led%20Zeppelin.htm"]Led Zeppelin[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S754.htm"]Let's Get It On[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Marvin%20Gaye.htm"]Marvin Gaye[/url] Let's Go! Routers Let's Live For Today Grass Roots Letter, The Box Tops Letter, The [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Joe%20Cocker.htm"]Joe Cocker[/url] Linus And Lucy Los Straitjackets Little Green Bag George Baker Selection Little Red Riding Hood Sam the Sham and The Pharaohs Little Sister Dwight Yoakam [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1140.htm"]Little Sister[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Elvis%20Presley.htm"]Elvis Presley[/url] Livin' Lovin' Maid Led Zeppelin [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S6906.htm"]Locomotive Breath[/url] Jethro Tull Lone Ranger / William Tell Rossinni Long Cool Woman Hollies [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1266.htm"]Long Tall Sally[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Little%20Richard.htm"]Little Richard[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1051.htm"]Louie Louie[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Kingsmen.htm"]Kingsmen[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1612.htm"]Louie Louie[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Richard%20Berry.htm"]Richard Berry[/url] Love Disease Paul Butterfield Love Is Here And Now You're Gone Supremes Love Me Two Times Doors Love Potion No.9 Searchers [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S719.htm"]Low Rider[/url] War Low Spark of High Heeled Boys Traffic [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1252.htm"]Lucille[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Little%20Richard.htm"]Little Richard[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S813.htm"]Maggie May[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Rod%20Stewart.htm"]Rod Stewart[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3853.htm"]Magic Carpet Ride[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Steppenwolf.htm"]Steppenwolf[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3471.htm"]Manic Depression[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Jimi%20Hendrix.htm"]Jimi Hendrix[/url] Mary Mary Michael Bloomfield Mary Mary Monkees Matchbox Blues [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Albert King[/url] Mean Mistreater Johnny Winter [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S6132.htm"]Mellow Yellow[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Donovan.htm"]Donovan[/url] Melting Pot Booker T and the MG's [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3137.htm"]Mercy, Mercy, Mercy[/url] Cannonball Adderley Messin' With The Kid Johnny Winter Messin' With The Kid Junior Wells [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S5172.htm"]Midnight Rider[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Allman Brothers[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S5172.htm"]Midnight Rider[/url] Buddy Miles Mint Julep Ray Charles Miss Ann Johnny Winter Mission Impossible Lalo Schifrin Moanin' Charles Mingus [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S762.htm"]Money[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Pink%20Floyd.htm"]Pink Floyd[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1149.htm"]Money (That's What I Want)[/url] Barrett Strong [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_(That"]Money (That's What I Want)[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1445.htm"]Mustang Sally[/url] Commitments [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1445.htm"]Mustang Sally[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Wilson%20Pickett.htm"]Wilson Pickett[/url] My Ever Present Past PaulMcCartney [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1026.htm"]My Girl melody[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Temptations.htm"]Temptations[/url] My Midnight Confessions Grass Roots Nadine [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Chuck%20Berry.htm"]Chuck Berry[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S3071.htm"]Night Train[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/James%20Brown.htm"]James Brown[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1341.htm"]Night Train[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Jimmy%20Forrest.htm"]Jimmy Forrest[/url] Nothing Is Easy Jethro Tull [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ob-La-Di,_Ob-La-Da"]Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] Ode To Joy Beethoven Oh Pretty Woman Albert King Old Time Rock and Roll Bob Seger One Way Out [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Albert%20King.htm"]Allman Brothers[/url] Outside Woman Blues Cream Overall Junction Albert King [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1732.htm"]Oye Como Va[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Santana.htm"]Santana[/url] Pachelbel Canon Pachelbel Paint It Black [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Rolling%20Stones.htm"]Rolling Stones[/url] Papa's Got A Brand New Bag [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/James%20Brown.htm"]James Brown[/url] Papa's Got A Brand New Bag Otis Redding Passacaglia Bach [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Lane"]Penny Lane[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/The%20Beatles.htm"]Beatles[/url] People Make The World Go Round Milt Jackson Peter Gunn Duane Eddy [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4074.htm"]Peter Gunn[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Henry%20Mancini.htm"]Henry Mancini[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4074.htm"]Peter Gunn[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Henry%20Mancini.htm"]Ray Anthony[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S1772.htm"]Pick Up the Pieces[/url] Average White Band [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/S4074.htm"]Pink Panther Theme[/url] [url="http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/Henry%20Mancini.htm"]Henry Mancini[/url] Police Stomp Original Pretty Woman Roy 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Jam, I'm no expert, but this is important. Your hand is collapsing with fatigue. Your thumb muscle is temporarily cramped/paralyzed. BUT!!! No one ever has to touch their thumb and little finger together. Forget that. Perhaps the neck of your bass should not be too thin. If you play a five or six string, it will be a bit harder to curve your fingers. If you're playing a four string, here is my technique based on my experience, research and physicality. My callouses are all on my fingertips only. I only uses the finger pad when I'm rolling between adjacent strings at the same fret. This technique will change your life if you apply it in your own fashion. The stopping hand (or fretting hand) is "The Claw". It is a form. Your hand assumes a rounded or curved claw-like form. Imagine holding a beer can. Imagine holding a beer can. Imagine holding a beer can! Fingers are curved. Opposing thumb is curved. The thumb stays on the center-line behind the neck. Only a small part of the thumb pad contacts the neck. Don't create friction. The palm never touches the neck. The only part of the hand that contacts the neck are the center-line thumb and the fingertips on the strings. The fingertips are like little hammers poised above and ready to fall, or on the string to hold it down. Keep the fingertips down or slightly hovering. Do not flail the fingers about. Avoid 1-2-3 fingering with the flailing pinky finger unless you are playing in the dusty end. The previously played fingers assist the next finger on that string by holding the string down behind it. Do not squeeze the neck between the thumb and fingertips much. The thumb is a guide. Do not squeeze the neck between the thumb and fingertips much! The thumb is a guide. Rather, pull the fingertips gently into the string. The thumb is used to balance and guide The Claw along the fingerboard. Use both the Closed Claw(1-2-4) and the Open Claw(1-2-3-4). 1-2-4 in the low neck positions and 1-2-3-4 in the middle of the neck. The size of your bass and hand will determine where you switch between them. I have found that Blues and Jazz walking bass likes the 1-2-3-4 Claw as you play a four fret box. But much of R&B, Latin, Disco Octaves and Rock like the 1-2-4 Claw as you play the three fret box. You will begin to enjoy R&B basslines in the low end with the 1-2-4 Claw. Life will change. Also, squeezing a tennis ball with the Claw hand AND the pizzicato hand will increase strength. Keep the tennis ball with you, for when you are walking or waiting. Then stretch your hands out, like a cat, to exercise your hand and finger muscles in the opposite direction. Don't force or overdo anything. Examine what other life tasks you are using your hands for that may be causing stress. Do 1-2-3-4 and 1-2-4 spider exercises, the James Jamerson "Igor" exercise and scale sequences, scale intervals and modes and triad exercises. The 1-2-3-4 Claw uses a four fret box. The 1-2-4 uses a three fret box. The 1-2-3 form is great for playing above the twelfth fret. Actually, forcing these exercises can cramp your hand up, so take it easy at first.

[quote name='Freddy Le Cragg' timestamp='1478896850' post='3172625'] All basses sound the same to me..... [/quote] LOL! You have a point... whenever I listen to a recording, the bass sounds pretty much the same as other recordings. But in a live mix, your tone is more obvious. Or when practicing, you can really hear your tone. But rather than tone, I should say there is a Personal Sound that includes a chain of factors, such as: Artist > Audience Artist > Instrument > Audience Artist > Skill > Instrument > Room > Audience Artist > Rhythm > Musicality > Skill > Instrument > Signal > Room > Audience Artist > Rhythm > Musicality > Skill > Instrument > Signal > Cab > Room > Air > Audience

The OP's question was "Jazz basses, what's the point?". I think Fender's point with the J was to widen the tonal spectrum for Fender. I always felt that the J complimented the P. I've played a fretless P since 1969 and finally added a fretted J Geddy Lee to widen my tonal range. I found it odd, that in spite of the 43 years between these different bass models, both necks are fairly identical. Both are "C" shapes with a taper of 0.8-0.9" from frets 1-12. The P nut width is 1.59" (2.21" at fret 12). The J nut width is 1.53" (2.26" at fret 12). Once I tried the Geddy, I saw that I wouldn't need any break-in time. I tried to make each bass sound as different as possible to cover different styles of music. Since the P has a fretless rosewood fingerboard, I added a strip of soft rubber to mute and strung it with La Bella Original 1954 Flats 110-52. I use the P for fingerstyle blues, jazz and soul and it gets a good Motown sound. The J has a fretted maple fingerboard and I strung it with D'Addario XL Chromes Flats 105-50. I use the J for classic rock, surf and pop and it has a spectacular sound when played with a plectrum and palm muting. With a fretted bass I get to try some slap/pop at times. Both basses have Badass bridges. I can always mute, but the high mass bridge provides sustain if needed and a more precise intonation at set-up. My point is that by having both a P and a J, I can apply myself to any musical situation. If my mates want one or the other, it's up to me, but at least I am able to accommodate their wishes, as I value their friendship and look for any excuse to play either. But, if a stranger were to decide for me on what bass I should play, he better be offering me a decent paycheque. Because today, everyone wants to tell you what to do... A friend once told me of his neighbor's wife who spent all day at his house telling his wife what to do. He came home from work one day, and she started telling him what to do...! He flipped out and she ran out... People will boss you... if you let 'em.

In the music of the old school days, chord progressions were secondary. And there are only a limited number of possibilities, anyway. With the advent of the guitar bands, progressions became too important, due to the limited instrumentation. Most new music sounds the same because the progression has become too dominating. In the seventy years before the Beatles, the attraction for the audience was the singer, the lyrics and melody combination, the show or movie from whence it came, and the brass or string orchestra arrangement. Having a record collection, I can play along with the greatest music and musicians of all time. Even though the progressions are very cyclic, the arrangements and bass lines vary immensely.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1476961478' post='3158804'] My worth as a musician is the same as it is in every other aspect of my life - f*** all. [/quote] I have reported you for self-debasement... but as I slip into my golden years, I fear that you have a point. Until I hit 46, I didn't have a clue. Not that I'm smarter, too late, I'm 62. They say that the bone floor under your brain drops with age. The angle changes. And you start getting more wisdom than you can bear as that part of the brain then starts to develop. They are now looking at people's skulls to gauge their wisdom... And as we get wiser, we must learn to live with regret... or just get a cat. Some people don't experience this as their skull won't allow the floor to drop... it gets stuck, or something... Young people, as I once was, can never understand the results of their actions until they reach 50 or so... then your mind generates all those memories that you never had the time to think through... and you must learn to live with regret... you don't get a minute's peace... but don't be hard on yourself... we all waste life constantly... my only hope is that some young feller reads this... and straightens out his life, like some old, crooked rusty nail...

I look at a bar gig only as a practice session. a glorified practice... It saves you renting a practice room. It takes your regular rehearsal to a more intense level. But bar/pub owners get no respect or consideration from me. They pay the bartenders, servers, the people who make the beer and liquor, the guy who sweeps the floor, repairs their roof, their cooks, their accountants... they pay everyone and take a profit... BUT they don't pay the musicians... and if they do, it barely pays for gas... you carry your gear to the car, load the car, get gas, drive, park, unload, carry, set-up... then you play four hours... buy a beer and a sandwich... then break down the gear, carry, load the car, read the parking ticket, stare at the new dent in the fender, drive home at 1:30 in the morning, unload, place your gear in the house, and collapse on the couch... all for $37.55...you actually lose money to play in a bar... and you ain't gonna make it anyhow... my band is now only interested in outdoor events... more exposure - no drunks - no owners... like a day trip... family is free to hang out or shop... enjoy the day... get home at a decent hour... to hell with bars... working for free is slavery. Enjoy...!

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1477418973' post='3162116']I avoid it, like the plague.[/quote] Same here. It's rarely called for and I thought that I would never be able to do it. But I eventually tried the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations with the first few bars featuring the dusty end. In fact the bass in that song ranges from about fret 2 to 16, so the tune makes for a good range stretcher. Sounds really good played with a plectrum (like Carol Kaye). Another good one is the old Australian hit, Friday On My Mind by the Easy Beats... It just keeps climbing... if you like plectrum bass tremolo above the twelfth fret. I look for these tunes, now. McCartney offers Penny Lane, Day Tripper and Come Together, and probably some others (A Little Help From My Friends...?).

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[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1448040277' post='2912643'] Here's my tip ... buy this book: [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Art-Country-Bass-Electric/dp/0793569923/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448040241&sr=8-1&keywords=Lost+Art+of+Country+Bass"]http://www.amazon.co...of+Country+Bass[/url] Excellent piece of work. [/quote] A great book for C&W bass... I've played country and western for years on Vancouver Island... an I got a big kick out of this book... from Johnny Cash root-fifth lines to Ray Price's walking country bass... while outlining the country tradition through a round-up of its most remarkable and prodigious bass players... reasonable price for what you get... Rosier also wrote a Jump Blues book... an I like it as well... Best way to learn C&W is to listen to it... it's like the blues or big band swing... you have to get the feel... when I first played in a country band, it was the first time I had played country... but my inner ear guided me along, because my parents had a big record collection that included hits from the country decades... just watch the ladies dancing (not too closely, though...) their feet and hips will keep you on your toes and give you the right feel... in country, the bass player is really a servant... you're just there for the dancers... from the root to the fifth... or triads for Ray Price's stuff... but a good band will play a little boogie-woogie, so's you can stretch out with major sixth and dominant seventh bass lines... You may find that you have more rhythm when you keep the note density down... root on one... fifth on three... four note walk up on the change... an a doe sie doe... you have to learn to walk up on your own, cuz no one is gonna tell you when... they're all depending on you to walk them into each chord... and don't be afraid to hit the same note twice in a row instead of root-fifth... it just sounds better sometimes... follow your ear, but don't walk sideways... they'll think you're crabby... But most importantly. lead in to each chord change... walk it up and back down again... the band and audience will appreciate it... they won't know why, but they will... Good Luck, Buckaroo...!

I realize this is an old thread, but I'm right into this after a one year layoff... Finger Drills / Chromatic Spiders have their place... one gets to practice every permutation... for the following in-line groups I come up with 4! = 4x3x2x1 = 24 1234 1243 1324 1342 1423 1432 2341 2431 2413 2134 2314 2143 3412 3124 3241 3421 3142 3214 4123 4312 4132 4213 4231 4321 You can repeat these but with one finger landing on the next adjacent string... then two, then three... Then zig-zag and string skipping and diagonal patterns... etc... For spider drills (chromatic) I'm enjoying this little book... Basic Guitar Workout (The Basic Series) Paperback by David Mead... it applies equally to the bass... It contains three types: Warm-Ups, Co-ordination, Ear Training (Where you play the scale, but omit one note which you sing instead.) I am also using Josquin Des Pres' book Bass Fitness - An Exercising Handbook (Guitar School) Paperback But don't forget the old scale sequence exercises mixed with interval leaps... they are finger-worthy, but also much more musical... Ascending leaps (diatonic thirds from the Major Scale) combined with a three note sequence: 13, 1231, 24, 2342, 35, 3453, 46, 4564, 57, 5675, 68, 6786, 79, 7897, 8. Repeat in descending order... like mathematics... there are an infinite variety. Check YouTube for examples of James Jamerson's Chromatic Exercise (Igor)... Download the tab here: http://www.afolkmusician.com/guitar-tabs-chords-and-sheet-music/james-jamersons-chromatic-bass-exercise/ Try Killing Floor, Expressway to Your Heart... etc... Hey Joe by Hendrix or Deep Purple and Manic Depression are good triad exercises... So many Blues-Rock and Delta Blues tunes are great riff-scale exercises... and of course Led Zeppelin tunes...

Most people watch sports events because they enjoy the game... or they are a player... or once were... all hobbyists are like that... Bassists are just one more group of people with a passion for some human activity... and they want to connect with others of the same ilk and share their common interest... I don't watch piano covers... but I enjoy bass covers for the above reason... Bass players are no different from anyone else... but like motorcyclists, skiers, truck drivers and circus clowns, we belong to a definable interest group... we ain't pianists and we ain't hoofers... but we enjoy pulling the big strings that lay down the bottom of every tune, make people want to move, make guitarists want to play, turn the drums into a band, decide the name of the chord, rumble the chairs, make bars rich, get hypnotized by the groove, get people together, and since the year 0 A.L.F. (After Leo Fender) give meaning to the word Rock... I also focus on fingering technique and fingerboard patterns... because there are countless ways to play a bass line on the bass, it's of interest to see how other bass players tackle it... if you write the bass line in musical notation, there is one unique bass line... however, there are many paths on the fingerboard... Simandl or One Finger Per Fret...? one string or three strings...? 8th fret on the E string or 3rd fret on the A string...? Since many bass lines in the past have been buried in the mix, it is ear-opening to hear the bass on top of the mix... somebody has taken the time to dig out every nuance of Penny Lane and push it out front... and pursue a certain tone for a personal sound... Also, watching the bass line being played cuts down on the time the watcher will spend trying to lift the line from scratch... And some bass players just catch your interest, like Sarah Jones or Constantine Isslamow... Sarah got me interested in melodic bass lines while Constantine covers the rockier bass lines... both have plotted out a course on the neck with which I can compare to my "fingerboard navigation" and appreciate the resulting delta... and there are many others to choose from... I intend to make some bass covers when I get some time... to add my favourite tunes and genres to those of other Bassers... hopefully, to garner constructive criticisms on tone, fingering, patterns and articulation... or gain affirmation from other struggling pluckers... My only hesitation is whether to sit or stand... show the head shot or just focus on the neck... to talk before and after or to remain silent... But its a strange bass player who walks into a pub or bar and doesn't have a look at the bass player, their gear, their bass face, their stage presence, their technique and tone... or at least introduce themselves... after all, we are all String Navigators...

For anyone who would like to read music, I would strongly suggest, at the very least, to procure a music teacher for a half-dozen lessons in counting / reading. This will give you the answers you need if you are serious. Here are a few well known tricks that may be helpful: Pitch vs. Time Music is like reading a graph - pitch (vertical axis) with respect to time (horizontal axis). Pitch is the easier part of reading. The harder part is counting. Rhythm Figures Isolate the rhythm figures from your music sheet and practicing them alone - divide and conquer. Often, many measures use identical rhythm figures even if the pitches are different. You may only have to master a few rhythm figures per song. A rhythm figure for one measure may be four crotchets, while another measure may contain a dotted crotchet, a quaver, a crotchet and a crotchet rest. Tapping Use your foot to count. Move your foot up and down evenly, eight times to each measure and count "1-and-2-and-3-and-4-and" Toe down on each number and toe up on each "and". Down is the downbeat, up is the upbeat. Now you can count quavers or eighth notes and rests. Counting sixteenth notes /rests is more advanced. You would count "1-e-and-a-2-e-and-a-3-e-and-a-4-e-and-a". Look Ahead While playing a measure, you should be looking at the next measure so that when you get there you will already know what to play. Memorise the Notes Know the open string notes and fingerboard notes for the first four frets (20) and part way up the G string, eventually to the 12fth fret (8). Know the notes on the Bass Clef staff (17). Remember that the bottom ledger line is E, the bass clef line is F, the first upper ledger line is C (middle C), the first line is G, the fifth line is A, the lines are G B D F A, the spaces are A C E G. Realize that the upper ledger lines, after middle C, are part of the Treble Clef Staff (look at piano music sheets). Sing Sing the notes as you play them to internalise. You will learn to read sooner if you do. Accidentals There are a maximum of five accidentals (the black keys on the piano). Know where they lie on the fingerboard for each key. Memorise the circle of fifths with key signatures. Practice, Practice, Practice Read everything you can find. Start with nursery rhymes and simple folk tunes. Buy the primer recommended by your teacher for your instrument. Learn the patterns and fingerings for scales and arpeggios. Find one hour for daily practice. Rudiments Learn the musical rudiments. Most primers have about five pages that cover the basics.

I have to play both instruments because each contributes a different sound and, depending on musical genre, a recognisable authority. And I want to play everything from Calypso to Hendrix (Yellow Haze, Purple Bird...). We all know that nothing beats string bass for playing doo-wop, old rock n' roll, swing jazz, jump blues, bluegrass, Willie Dixon style blues, and jazz standards from the American Songbook. But we all play them on bass guitar, anyway. But to convince a audience, is another matter. Elvis' Little Sister needs a Fender Jazz or Precision Bass (probably with a plectrum). Ye Good Ol' Bass Viol was ne'er made for most R&B, Jamerson's Motown Soul bass lines, James Brown's funk, Cream's Blues-Rock, the New Country and Sixties Rock or Classic Rock. Little Richard's Lucille screams for electric bass; it just doesn't work on stand-up. Some pop tunes like Downtown or It's Not Unusual can be played on both successfully, and with pleasantly different results. It all depends on how seriously one takes music. Recently, I started with a traditional New Orleans Jazz band which has prompted me to buy an old tuba for some of the tunes, because strings swing - but tuba sways. I could play them on string bass, but they really shine with tuba. Hearing "Tuba Skinny" on YouTube proved that to me. We can play anything on any instrument, but authenticity is truly appreciated by an audience. It's like building in quality. It pays off. And when you switch from Fender, to stand-up, to tuba... you get called back!

i was thinking lately of what i would do if i were surrounded by a group of irritable bass players... (Has this ever happened to you...?) how would i describe that collective group...? so i came up with, and very much prefer the term "bassoon"... as in, "surrounded by a crazed bassoon of bass players..." also, The Great Lead Guitar Player turned to suddenly find that he was chased by a bassoon of bass guitarists... The great bassoon grew and grew until it became a thong - creating a rift between the two opposing creeks and causing men to fall in awe of the great pass... i think that i much prefer "bassoon" to "moop"... i don't like the term "bass tard"... as in, "A basstard of underpaid musicians entered the club owner's office..." time marches on...! [size=2][i]"i'm CrackerJackLee... come and sit upon my knee... an' i'll tell you a story that's strange but true![/i][/size]

from Dickens' "The Tale of the Moops" all the little bass players gathered in a moop... they jostled each other to hear what The Great Lead Guitar Player had to say... The Great Lead Guitar Player (GLGP) waved his arm above his head and asked them, "What have you been up to, as of late...?" "Have you been practising your roots and fifths...?" "Why, yes!", they all chimed... "Such a good moop!", whispered the The Great Lead Guitar Player... "And have you practiced the Golden Rule of Low Frequency Simplicity...?" Suddenly - a hush ensued over a part of the moop... hushed and blushed...! "Oh, my...", muttered The Great Lead Guitarist... after which The Great Lead Guitar Player doled out the castor oil accordingly... and the moop quickly dispersed... amid chuckles of laughter from The Great Lead Guitar Player and his band... i found this little tale today while dusting offf my Dickens Bookshelf... hope you like it... cheers! ol' Cracker

[attachment=81046:g.jpg] 1969 Fender Precision Fretless Bass Guitar/Badass II Bridge I can still remember the day I bought it new in Montreal at Marrazza Musique in the fall of 1969 - $500. Beside it is a Gibson ES135.

[quote name='Snakey Lane' post='1215886' date='Apr 30 2011, 10:37 AM']Just came across this site through another posting about transcriptions. [url="http://www.arcellussykesmusic.com/index.php?/transcriptions/"]http://www.arcellussykesmusic.com/index.php?/transcriptions/[/url][/quote] Tarnation...! beauty... a rare find...thanks and thanks...

[font="Courier New"]This must be one of the best bass features in rock history to listen to and to play - and an excellent fingering study! Here's one take on Glenn Cornick's version of Bach's Bouree for BG in Dm with Open Hand Fingering Form 4A, mostly in second position on the verses; but, most bassists seem to prefer the 1A fingering form in fifth position. This tab has the single note bass solo in the seventh position, while the double stop solo is tabbed all along the top two strings, D and G. Please let me know if you find errors. (Everyone hears notes differently and prefers their own fingering.) I've tried to remain faithful to the recording, but with respect to fingering, there are many ways to navigate the fingerboard with this one. Glenn Cornick seemed to keep the line very stable but there are specific bars in which he liked to play variations. I wonder if he was using a felt pick on the doublestops? I also like to experiment with Closed Hand, Simandl type fingering on this great bass piece. Double bassists must love the doublestop solo. If anyone has some insight on this selection or a tale to tell about its composition, I'd love to hear it. I'm working on a bass tab for Bach's original version, because it sounds great and makes for an interesting comparison. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bach's Bouree (an adaption by Jethro Tull's bassist Glenn Cornick) Tabbed by: CrackerJackLee Verse 1 (0:00) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|-7------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3---------2----3-2---3-| A|--5-----------------5-------------3----------5---| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------------------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------5----3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5---------------3------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|--------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------2------2-----3-| A|--5-----------------5---------------3------4-5---| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------------------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------0-2--3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5----------------------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Verse 2 (Al Tutti) (0:32) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|--------2--------------------2--5-----2---------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------------3-2----3-| A|--5-----------------5--------------3--------5----| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------4-----------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--------2--3-------3-2--3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5----------------------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|--------2-----------------2-------------2-------2| D|-----3----32-------2-----3-----2-----3---2-----3-| A|--5-------------3-----5-----3-----5-------4-5----| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|--------2-----------------2-------------2--------| D|-----3----3--------2-----3-----2-----3---2-------| A|--5--------5----3-----5-----3-----5-------4-5----| E|-------------------------------------------------| Flute solo (1:03) Tenth Position G|--------------------------------------------------| D|--------------------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------------------| E|--10----------------------10----------------------| G|----------------------------------10--------------| D|-12-10--------------------12-10-------------------| A|-------12-----------------------12----------------| E|--------------------------------------------------| Jam Vamp (1:18) Dm Gm G|-----2------2----------------------| D|------------------------3-5--------| A|-5-5----5-5---5------3h5-----2-3-4-| E|-----------------3-3---------------| Dm Gm G|-----------------------------------| D|-----3------3-------------3-5------| A|-5-5----5-5---5-------3h5-----2-3-4| E|------------------3-3--------------| Dm Gm G|-----2------2----------------------| D|------------------------3-5--------| A|-5-5----5-5---5------3h5-----2-3-4-| E|-----------------3-3---------------| Dm Gm G|-----2------2----------------------| D|-------------------------3-5-------| A|-5-5----5-5---5------3h5-----2-3-4-| E|-----------------3-3---------------| Transition to Bass Solo (1:34) Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|-----7----------------------------------------------------------| D|--------7-5---------5-------7-------5-------7---7-5---------7---| A|-5-5---5----8-5---7-----5-8---5---7-----5-8---5-----7-4-5-8---5-| E|----------------8-----8---------8-----8-------------------------| Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|-----------------------------------------------------------------| D|-----7---7-5--------5---------------5-------7---7-7-5------------| A|-5-8---5----7-----7-----5-5-8-5---7-----5-8---5-------7-3h5-5-5--| E|--------------5-8-----8---------8-----8--------------------------| Bass Solo (single note) (1:50) G|-7---------------------------| D|---------7-8-7----------7----| A|-----7-8-------8-7-8-10---10-| E|--10-------------------------| G|----------7---9-------9-12-------------------| D|--------7---7---10---------11----11-12-11h12-| A|----7-8------------10---------12-------------| E|-10------------------------------------------| G|----------------------------------| D|-12--------------------------7----| A|----8-10-11-12------8-7-8-10------| E|---------------9-10------------10-| G|------------------------------------| D|--------7-10----10-8--------10---10-| A|----7-8------10------10---8----8----| E|-10---------------------8-----------| Bass Solo (double stop) (2:06) G|-12-12-12/14--10-10-10/ 8--7-7-7/5--5-5-5/7-| D|-10-10-10/12---8--8--8/10--7-7-7/5--3-3-3/7-| A|--------------------------------------------| E|--------------------------------------------| G|-2-2-2--2-2-2--2-2-2--2-2-2-| D|-0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0-| A|----------------------------| E|----------------------------| G|-12-12-12/14--10-10-10/ 8--7-7-7/5--5-5-5/7-| D|-10-10-10/12---8--8--8/10--7-7-7/5--3-3-3/7-| A|--------------------------------------------| E|--------------------------------------------| G|-2-2-2--2-2-2/5-5-5--2-2-2--2-2-2/5-5-5-| D|-0-0-0--0-0-0/3-3-3--0-0-0--0-0-0/3-3-3-| A|----------------------------------------| E|----------------------------------------| G|-12-12-12/10-10--9----- 9-10----2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-| D|-10-10-10/12-12--10-10-10-10-10-0~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-| A|--------------------10-------10---------------------| E|----------------------------------------------------| Transition to Verse 1 (2:29) G|-2------2----------------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----3--| A|--5-----------------5-----| E|--------------------------| Verse 1 (2:33) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|-------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|----3-----3--2--3-----2--3---------2----3-2---3-| 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[quote name='High score' post='486795' date='May 13 2009, 06:02 AM']Anyone got a competent TAB version of Bachs Bourre as played by Tull? Be much appreciated, Thanks Iain[/quote] Iain, Here's my version of what I hear... hope it is useful... What a classic... It just keeps sounding better as the decades roll off, no? Cheers! Lee

Thanks for an interesting post. Santana says that tone is one's "face"... We expect time and groove, but not everyone has a warm tone... it takes extra effort and constant attention...

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AreefiCrN8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AreefiCrN8[/url]

[quote name='Pentode' post='454633' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:13 AM']If the man (Bach) himself was alive today, he'd def' play bass.[/quote] Amen! Most of his music just pours on the bass...

[font="Courier New"]This must be one of the best bass features in rock history to listen to and to play - and an excellent fingering study! Here's one take on Glenn Cornick's version of Bach's Bouree for BG in Dm with Open Hand Fingering Form 4A, mostly in second position on the verses; but, most bassists seem to prefer the 1A fingering form in fifth position. This tab has the single note bass solo in the seventh position, while the double stop solo is tabbed all along the top two strings, D and G. Please let me know if you find errors. (Everyone hears notes differently and prefers their own fingering.) I've tried to remain faithful to the recording, but with respect to fingering, there are many ways to navigate the fingerboard with this one. Glenn Cornick seemed to keep the line very stable but there are specific bars in which he liked to play variations. I wonder if he was using a felt pick on the doublestops? I also like to experiment with Closed Hand, Simandl type fingering on this great bass piece. Double bassists must love the doublestop solo. If anyone has some insight on this selection or a tale to tell about its composition, I'd love to hear it. I'm working on a bass tab for Bach's original version, because it sounds great and makes for an interesting comparison. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bach's Bouree (an adaption by Jethro Tull's bassist Glenn Cornick) Tabbed by: CrackerJackLee Verse 1 (0:00) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|-7------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3---------2----3-2---3-| A|--5-----------------5-------------3----------5---| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------------------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------5----3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5---------------3------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|--------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------2------2-----3-| A|--5-----------------5---------------3------4-5---| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------------------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------0-2--3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5----------------------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Verse 2 (Al Tutti) (0:32) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|--------2--------------------2--5-----2---------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------------3-2----3-| A|--5-----------------5--------------3--------5----| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------4-----------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--------2--3-------3-2--3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5----------------------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|--------2-----------------2-------------2-------2| D|-----3----32-------2-----3-----2-----3---2-----3-| A|--5-------------3-----5-----3-----5-------4-5----| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|--------2-----------------2-------------2--------| D|-----3----3--------2-----3-----2-----3---2-------| A|--5--------5----3-----5-----3-----5-------4-5----| E|-------------------------------------------------| Flute solo (1:03) Tenth Position G|--------------------------------------------------| D|--------------------------------------------------| A|--------------------------------------------------| E|--10----------------------10----------------------| G|----------------------------------10--------------| D|-12-10--------------------12-10-------------------| A|-------12-----------------------12----------------| E|--------------------------------------------------| Jam Vamp (1:18) Dm Gm G|-----2------2----------------------| D|------------------------3-5--------| A|-5-5----5-5---5------3h5-----2-3-4-| E|-----------------3-3---------------| Dm Gm G|-----------------------------------| D|-----3------3-------------3-5------| A|-5-5----5-5---5-------3h5-----2-3-4| E|------------------3-3--------------| Dm Gm G|-----2------2----------------------| D|------------------------3-5--------| A|-5-5----5-5---5------3h5-----2-3-4-| E|-----------------3-3---------------| Dm Gm G|-----2------2----------------------| D|-------------------------3-5-------| A|-5-5----5-5---5------3h5-----2-3-4-| E|-----------------3-3---------------| Transition to Bass Solo (1:34) Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|-----7----------------------------------------------------------| D|--------7-5---------5-------7-------5-------7---7-5---------7---| A|-5-5---5----8-5---7-----5-8---5---7-----5-8---5-----7-4-5-8---5-| E|----------------8-----8---------8-----8-------------------------| Dm A7 C Dm C Dm A7 Dm G|-----------------------------------------------------------------| D|-----7---7-5--------5---------------5-------7---7-7-5------------| A|-5-8---5----7-----7-----5-5-8-5---7-----5-8---5-------7-3h5-5-5--| E|--------------5-8-----8---------8-----8--------------------------| Bass Solo (single note) (1:50) G|-7---------------------------| D|---------7-8-7----------7----| A|-----7-8-------8-7-8-10---10-| E|--10-------------------------| G|----------7---9-------9-12-------------------| D|--------7---7---10---------11----11-12-11h12-| A|----7-8------------10---------12-------------| E|-10------------------------------------------| G|----------------------------------| D|-12--------------------------7----| A|----8-10-11-12------8-7-8-10------| E|---------------9-10------------10-| G|------------------------------------| D|--------7-10----10-8--------10---10-| A|----7-8------10------10---8----8----| E|-10---------------------8-----------| Bass Solo (double stop) (2:06) G|-12-12-12/14--10-10-10/ 8--7-7-7/5--5-5-5/7-| D|-10-10-10/12---8--8--8/10--7-7-7/5--3-3-3/7-| A|--------------------------------------------| E|--------------------------------------------| G|-2-2-2--2-2-2--2-2-2--2-2-2-| D|-0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0-| A|----------------------------| E|----------------------------| G|-12-12-12/14--10-10-10/ 8--7-7-7/5--5-5-5/7-| D|-10-10-10/12---8--8--8/10--7-7-7/5--3-3-3/7-| A|--------------------------------------------| E|--------------------------------------------| G|-2-2-2--2-2-2/5-5-5--2-2-2--2-2-2/5-5-5-| D|-0-0-0--0-0-0/3-3-3--0-0-0--0-0-0/3-3-3-| A|----------------------------------------| E|----------------------------------------| G|-12-12-12/10-10--9----- 9-10----2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-| D|-10-10-10/12-12--10-10-10-10-10-0~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-| A|--------------------10-------10---------------------| E|----------------------------------------------------| Transition to Verse 1 (2:29) G|-2------2----------------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----3--| A|--5-----------------5-----| E|--------------------------| Verse 1 (2:33) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|-------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|----3-----3--2--3-----2--3---------2----3-2---3-| A|-5-----------------5-------------3----------5---| E|------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------------------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------5----3---3---2-| A|--5-----------------5---------------3------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Verse 1 (Al Tutti) (2:50) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|--------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3---------2----3-2---3-| A|--5-----------------5-------------3----------5---| E|-------------------------------------------------| Dm A A7 Dm F C F G|--------2--------------------2--5--------5---5---| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3-------0-2--3---3---52| A|--5-----------------5----------------------------| E|-------------------------------------------------| Verse 1 Outro (3:04) Dm As4 F+A7 Dm F C A7/3 Dm G|-------2--------------------2--5------2--------2| D|----3-----3--2--3-----2--3---------2----3-2---3-| A|-5-----------------5-------------3----------5---| E|------------------------------------------------| (3:40) Dm A A7 Dm F C F F G|--------2--------------------------------------------2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~7------| D|-----3-----3--2--3-----2--3~~~~~---------------------0~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-------| A|--5-----------------5-----------0~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~----------------------5------| E|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| [END][/font]