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Well here's an update i wasn't expecting. Had to go into loft today and while there had a quick look in my spare leads box and lo and behold my spare Speakon cable plus i found 2 speakon to jack speaker cables. The Speakon is Klotz cable so i'm guessing this is the one i bought from Dave at OBBM. I probably bought the speakon to jack ones to cover all possibilities as some of the studio cabs only had jacks back then. Oh well at least i have plenty of spares now. 5 off speakon to speakon and 3 off speakon to jack. Maybe i could start a shop. You know how sometimes on a thread you just look and feel stupid. Well this thread has done all that for me on several occasions. 😂 Ach well at least you can all laugh at / with me. 😂 Dave

Any pics of it. ? Sounds interesting. Dave

Oddly enough the cables i made up myself in 80's all seemed to get pinched at gigs. Usually where there was a support band for some reason. Dave

No need to apologise. I KNOW. 😂

I thought i had bought them from you but now i'm wondering where i got them unless it was from Bass Direct when i bought my Berg ae112 cabs back around 2010. My apologies Dave. Dave

OBBM ones i have are Proel cable but he does use Klotz too

Of course. @agedhorse is God. However i am still surprised but Hey ! every day a school day on Basschat and i shall admit defeat gracefully.😀 Dave

Thanks for that. Have to say its news to me. The spreader plate makes sense when using screwed connections but i've not seen spreader plates in a speakon plug. Only thing i would highlight is that it's for cables where movement is expected. Most plugs have the cable sheath clamped in both soldered and non-soldered so its not relevant in the case of speaker cables. I would also agree that when soldering fine cables to circuit boards the excessive heat could cause damage and more and more circuit boards now have plugs of some sort rather than wires soldered direct to board IME that is. I know that excessive heat on instrument cables can damage the insulation or cause oxidising on certain cables but that's usually a finer cable than good quality speaker cable. I'm now even more curious as to which is more reliable. If anyone has any info please share. I'm curious again. So what about jack plugs. They are all soldered as far as i know yet they have finer cables than speaker cable. So many questions now !!!!! Is the guidance or regulation for circuit boards only ? Dave

I'd disagree that any screwed terminals are better than permanent soldered connections. When you say crimp and compression do you mean fitting a crimp to cable end and then insert into screwed connection. Nuetrik NL4 connection instructions dont show crimps being used but cable straight into a screwed connection. Anywhere you have a screwed cable connection can lead to screws loosening off under loads due to heat transfer. Dave

The expert cable manufacturers recommend soldered connections rather than screwed ones for reliability and endurance. Any cables i've bought have all been soldered. Dave

Just checked the shorter cable i have and its actually 0.7m and not 1m. I bought it circa 2010 and have no idea why i asked for that specific length, The 1m version would have been ok after all. What i might do is half one of the cables, buy a couple of nuetriks and solder myself giving 2 x 1m ones plus a 2m as spares. Dave

I went for 2 metres on this one as i found the 1 metre i already have is borderline with certain cab set ups. Did think of 1.5m but like you said 2m wasn't much different. Dave

No probs, i'm just curious but @Killed_by_Death has provided an explanation that makes sense to me. Cheers. 👍 Everyday a school day on Basschat. Its why i keep coming back. Before i joined BC my head was empty............now its full of stuff. 😂 Dave

I've never heard of capacitance in cables being an issue but i'm open to any theoretical explanations to help me understand. Where does the capacitance come in. i.e. across the cores or core to earth ? Dave

That's about it for me too. I just like the build quality.

At the end of the day if its what you want then its the right thing for you. I've heard a similar discussion on Squier P versus Fender P. Most won't hear the difference but some do. If it interprets as a benefit to the individual then its acceptable. I'm not here to judge .......... i was just curious. Dave

That's probably a good point that some people with very refined hearing characteristics can identify small differences but i would question whether its down to cable size or length than the actual materials. In my mind different materials will only create a difference in resistance which i think will be so small it will be negligable unless as mentioned you have a very refined hearing which would be exceptionally rare and probably only someone younger where their hearing hasn't diminshed over the years with age and life in general. Just my own opinions of course and happy to stand corrected. Dave

I know but i was thinking £30 was expensive. They kinda floored me a wee bit. Once i sat up and had a coffee to calm my nerves i was ok. 😂 Appreciate you were offering a suggestion tho just a little too pricey for me. Dave

Is there another thread discussing this ?

I remember mates buying gold plated hi-fi cables in 80's and saying they could hear a difference. I personally was never convinced. Certainly gold plating will resist contact corrosion but that should never be an issue if your gear is kept inside in dry climate. Other than that i don't understand how some cables can give a clearer tone unless you compare a cheap under-sized cable compared to a well designed cable suitable for the current draw on the amp. Maybe someone who knows more might be able to explain in detail. Dave

They start at £75. How do they justify that price. I'll pass on them. Dave

All opinions welcome. If it helps people make a decision you should speak your mind. Dave

Not heard of them. Where did you buy them ? Dave

Cleartone ones ordered 2 off at 2m length. Prices are excellent compared to elsewhere especially when using Van Damme cable with Pro Nuetriks. £13.50 each. Cheers guys. Dave