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That's one of the SX Jazzes from the starter packs packs that were sold in the UK for about £120. 22 frets is the giveaway. Generic Chinese Jazz bass but that shaped headstock was the SX version. (And close to the Sadowsky Fenderish headstock) Not the same as the SX basses from Rondo Music. Rather inferior in my experience. Probably worth a touch more than he paid for the setup:)

Love Hayns manuals.. "foreword by legendary session bassist Carol Kaye. " I'll be getting it for Christmas for sure "Here's the car; here's the Haynes manual we wrote and here's the bits we had left over."

The OP (NJE) talks of actives an extra pickups built in and as off the shelf basses.

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='896544' date='Jul 16 2010, 02:06 PM']lovely, but it is essentually a Fender P bass made (copied?) my someone else isnt it? I think the thing with them is that built as they were (from 1957) they did the job they were supposed to. They sit in the mix a certain way, are very simple and sound a certain way. The P bass tone will not be improved by changing it.[/quote] That's the point of the thread I believe (My memory is not what it... er, what was I saying?) The point of the Super P is to make a bass that achieves what Leo had in mind but using the modern stuff and less constrained by the Fender "as cheap as we can manage it" approach to things. You'll never (again) have the pleasure of playing a brand new Pre-CBS precision freshly made by Fender USA and few of us have the option of owning a played in vesion of a good one from that period. Super P's and Super J's are about getting that kind of experience from a new instrument. Now the latest Fender P basses (and US re-issues) may achieve that but things like the Lakland and Shuker JJB are looking to do "Precision bass but better".

[quote name='andyjingram' post='896458' date='Jul 16 2010, 12:31 PM']So long as that's not a Norfolk foot! Sorry Norfolk-ites. It is a stock answer based on a very old stereotype. Contents of this post are purely fictional, any resemblance to persons living or dead is coincedental, content does not represent the opinions of blah blah blah.[/quote] Brave!

[quote name='andyjingram' post='896430' date='Jul 16 2010, 12:02 PM']I think there are officially 'wronger' things about these basses than that! Your comment is the essense of this discussion I think. I believe the change over is an 'improvement' to get better tonal balance across the strings. A Super-P pickup placement as it were. Of course it is no longer the perfectly fantastic P pickup placement, and opinion is automatically divided! Or split, I suppose, but then, I'm not a punning man. Now you mention it, I hadn't noticed that before- I'd be interested to try a reverse pickup config. , as all my basses are standard P-type ones.[/quote] I imagine the numbers of people who can tell the sonic difference, in a blind test, could be counted on the fingers of one foot...

[quote name='andyjingram' post='896394' date='Jul 16 2010, 11:26 AM']I know I'm digging up an old thread here, but if 'Super-P' come from the same train of thought as 'Super-strat' then surely these babies are Super P's! I have taken to an odd fascination with these sort of basses just lately. A sort of so-bad-it's-good vibe. I stop short of wishing to play one with a single, fingerless weightlifting glove on my right hand though.[/quote] but the P pickup's on backwards and that always looks wrong to me...

I'm very happy with my gear but, dear Genie, may I have an endless supply of decent sized appreciative audiences, please.

[quote name='Rich' post='896339' date='Jul 16 2010, 10:42 AM']OK, if we're talking real magic lamp fantasy stuff... I'd like a 5 string fretted bass that could be made fretless at the flick of a switch, with Delanos and an East eq [i]plus[/i] the innards from a Line6 Variax bass.[/quote] Thought you knew about the Mikey Convertible Bass with the fret lever [url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4834310257765651103#"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...10257765651103#[/url] the rest is relatively easy.... Edit: Pete got there first

[quote name='davydisco' post='896158' date='Jul 16 2010, 01:45 AM']im new to the bass i cant play a piggin note so can anyone recomend some videos or books thats pretty easy to follow THANKS[/quote] Welcome to Basschat. By far the best thing you could do is find a local bass tutor and have a couple of lessons. Sure they cost money (as do books) but just a few lessons will get you much further much faster than trying to do it on your own from scratch. If you can't afford to have lessons on an ongoing basis get the books and they will all make a lot more sense, and thus help you get better faster once you have the foundations laid by a tutor.

[quote name='WHUFC BASS' post='895091' date='Jul 14 2010, 09:09 PM']Isn't that Icelandic ?[/quote] Ten Points to the Hammers Man!

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='895744' date='Jul 15 2010, 04:17 PM']Oh, is that not light for a Precision? Or just not light for a Precision of that model/era? (Most 4-strings feel light to me anyway. I'm used to the added bulk of a 5er.)[/quote] Well 8lbs is on the light side for a P bass for sure but The Japanese P basses I have had with basswood bodies (57Ri, 62RI) are usually 7.8lbs. and that 0.2 seems to be rather significant. When you put one one you know it's a "light" bass .. The Ash/Alder ones are usually 8.4lbs and the 70RI ones with Ash bodies are 8.8lbs. US made p basses vary a lot and the 70's era ones seem to (generally) be pretty heavy and early 60's ones generally pretty light. All of this is IME, of course.

[quote name='phil.mcglassup' post='895382' date='Jul 15 2010, 09:40 AM']BTW it weighs 3.7kg which equates to just over 8lbs[/quote] OK not super light then..

[quote name='Commando Jack' post='894591' date='Jul 14 2010, 12:20 PM']. To be honest that's true, because when I've just finished playing for 2 hours I just feel the need to go home for a cup of tea[/quote] Funny how civilians expect you to go out partying all night like they imagine the Stones do/did when we have to pack up all the gear and drive home so we can get up and got to work or Sainsburies in the morning .....

Oh and another thing, judging by many posts on here about unreliable musicians, if you show up at all you'll be the exception If you show up at the agreed time (or just before), with working gear, working ears and a good attitude you'll be a long way ahead ...

[quote name='MIJ-VI' post='895288' date='Jul 15 2010, 04:33 AM']Flats and ashtrays came back, didn't they?[/quote] Ah so true!

[quote name='geoffbassist' post='894299' date='Jul 13 2010, 11:59 PM']Just read (and re read) most of this thread and it's a fantastic resource! I'm in the process of sorting out a website and this has been a huge help thanks OG :-) cheers Geoff[/quote] You are welcome and thanks for your kind words. Nice to knwo it's working. Just PM me if you need anything specific or an objective view on your design etc...

[quote name='MIJ-VI' post='895166' date='Jul 14 2010, 10:31 PM']cords,[/quote] You sure? Is corduroy back in fashion with you young people then?

[quote name='BurritoBass' post='895095' date='Jul 14 2010, 09:12 PM']Relax & have fun - may sound odd but it's a damn good start. Try & get on with them as it's more than just the music. Also be guided by what they say. They may want less flash... but go with the flow. Oh & good luck![/quote] +1 It's more important that you get on OK and do an OK job on the tunes rather than nail their tunes spot on first time, especially as you've not heard them before.. and.... Standard advice for people doing auditions #1 : remember you are auditioning them as well. They have to be good enough/nice enough for you to want to join. They will be a bit nervous too Good luck!

[quote name='phil.mcglassup' post='895009' date='Jul 14 2010, 07:54 PM']Thanks for all the info everyone. What sort of P bass is it? Does it have a specific name?[/quote] Yeah its a PB-551, usually known as [s]"That 80's Japanese one with no scratchplate and a same coloured headstock"[/s] Malcolm I don't think that was the catalogue name though Burrito was looking to sell one for a mate back in Nov 09 for £400. You could check with him to see what his mate got (sold elsewhere) Marky-L had one then too.

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='785268' date='Mar 24 2010, 11:33 PM']A Japanese PB-70...these are littered around the jap websites, Same time as the fretless 70's Precision reissue - which, i need. Bonkers - meant to be a P-Neck profile though. I like it, a lot.[/quote] Oh not seen a PB70 with blocks before. Interesting

OK I was right (phew) that's one of the odd Japanese Precision specials (NB not a "Precision Special") with no scratchplate. I seem to remember they have a narrow jazz style neck. maybe a 38mm nut? I think they are quite light too. What does it weigh? As had been said they have a good reputation and I've seen a few sell for around the £400 mark in good nick. You may be lucky and get £450 but I'd agree that it may sit around for some time at £500... It will depend on the right person coming along, though, as these are a bit "non traditional" for a lot of P players.