Hot tub, it took we a while to stop laughing there. you have a job that almost every one on here would kill for (yeah that was a delibrate pun). so you are obviously intelligent, and you love playing bass. do you watch other bands, in pubs for instance, i could blah blah for ages to you, but for gods sake someone near Leamington Spa take him under their wing and point him in the right direction. did you not think of going to the bass bash at NAS's place. you are good enough for a band situation. i wish you were nearer me.