Mr. Foxen

Think there were suggestions on the Acoustic forum, might be a job for WinISD, the 126 port goes quite fart up the back of the cabinet, but I have no idea how to count the flared part at the front, that's something for AlexClaber of BFM to chip in on. I'd guess you'd measure the bit up the back of the cab as the port, and ignore the flare, or maybe do it both ways, and see which gives you a sensible looking tuning.

I'd guess the stupid amount of power the guitarists have is cause the detune/use too much bottom anyway, so you should aim to carve some space below them. Either by having them cut some bottom, or using the fact that bass cabs can get much more bottom than guitar cabs. Big and ported is the way for this. The Classic Ampeg 8x10 stack is probably going to be covering very similar frequency range to detuned guitars and big mesa 4x12s.

Sounds like the two of them are having a volume war with each other, the drummer seem happy to keep up, so you probably won't get so far with the asking them to turn down. Your only option is to get awesome earplugs and fight fire with fire. Problem is deaf guitards turn up even more. You have a great advantage that guitar technology has moved much since the 60s, but bass has. A couple of big modern cabs (aguilar GS412 would be the reccomendation from experience, good luck finding some though), big and ported, maybe a Barefaced Big One + matching Big Sub, a kilowatt + power amp (Crown or QSC) and the ridiculous bargain RPM1 preamp in for sale section will sort you, same sort of Ashdown tone, enough volume to melt your guitards. In fact, maybe go for biggest heaviest cabs you can (8x10s, Mesa) so they have to help move them, when they moan, say 'I only need these cause you won't turn down.'.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' post='785015' date='Mar 24 2010, 07:10 PM']just a note of caution here with the feedback thing. You will effectively be driving a full power square wave into your speakers.[/quote] Not quite sure how you are figuring that. Square wave distortion sounds nasty, and if it is coming from before the power amp, its not comparable to clipping the power amp into square wave territory.

The speakers help each other, its basically like doubling the motor strength, to the same cone. It means you need half the amount of air in the box behind them, but correspondingly twice the amp power, and it has the same max output as a single speaker (in a 2 speaker sized box, if that makes sense, like you could put one speaker in a 2 speaker sized box and get lots of bottom, 2 speakers in a 1 speaker sized box gives same bottom, but up tot he maximum of a single speaker.).

[quote name='mikeselfinflicted' post='784269' date='Mar 24 2010, 01:36 AM']Well i need to sell some stuff first but if your up for it i'd be seriously interested!! would there be a big improvement in tonality/volume over the mag cabs? i'm assuming there would be as the ABM series is pro gear[/quote] As I say, different animals, not actually tried the MAG cabs, but am assuming they have rear ports. Sealed cabs roll off in the lows a bit more, but sit happily in the 'loud' frequencies. Everyone loves the Ampeg fridge, which is also sealed, same sort of frequency range, maybe a different 'colour' within that range, although the only ampeg fridge I've played through was a bit of a mish mash of speakers, so not sure if it is good to compare directly.

[quote name='Kohpnyn' post='784191' date='Mar 23 2010, 11:51 PM']Really? She obviously made a mistake when she listed it, why would you try and force her to send it to you?[/quote] Not really, it was listed for a reasonable figure for a Big muff, adding a 1 to the front would make it a very odd figure to list something at. Plus if you make a mistake at listing, you have still listed it and sent out your contractual offer, this is why there are so many confirmation stages before it goes live. If someone sold me a wallet for £5 and it had £5 in it, that I knew was there, and they asked for it back, I'd probably not give it back to them. My wallet is in dire need of replacing. Similarly, JoeGarcia is a guy with a chronic shortage of fuzz pedals.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='784179' date='Mar 23 2010, 11:40 PM']If loaded with the same drivers it will be but more of the same result.[/quote] Mine has black Celestions, pre the blue sicas, think the blues in the ABM are different due to the sealed, but maybe they aren't that sophisticated.

[quote name='mikeselfinflicted' post='784174' date='Mar 23 2010, 11:35 PM']Thanks you given me alot to think about maybe i could trade them in an find an ashdown ABM 8x10!!! guitarists get it so much easier its not fair!!!! :snob:[/quote] If you have 4-500 then you should be able to get an ABM 8x10 easy enough. They aren't like the 4x10s though, they are sealed like the classic Ampeg. In fact, you can have mine for £400. As much as I love it, I need to lose a cab.

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[quote name='stevie' post='783103' date='Mar 23 2010, 09:33 AM']The grub screws on my Badass I are just a tad too short. Does anyone know where I can get longer ones?[/quote] You need to raise it more? Have you checked the neck pocket for a shim you could remove?

[quote name='Phil Starr' post='783055' date='Mar 23 2010, 07:57 AM']Guitarists get away with swapping speakers because they don't use ported cabs they aren't producing much real bass most guitar speakers are similar in design[/quote] You forgot 'Their insturments sound horrible naturally and they like horrible midrange and distortion'. I think the Ashdown cabs have tube ports, so if you can find a suitable tube, you can retune them to an extent, easily, but the ports might be a bit small for actually good bass drivers.

[quote name='dougal' post='782824' date='Mar 22 2010, 10:09 PM']Absolutely: but that pushes the price up for something which [i]might[/i] not make much/any difference. Next stop the Gallery.[/quote] Well, try them ugly first, then if it does the trick, work the wood.

Better spending that sorta cash on better cabs. Unless you have a fairly good understanding of such things, port cabs and speaker swaps are unpredictable.

[quote name='civictiger' post='782141' date='Mar 21 2010, 09:38 PM']Just like in a shop, if they get the price tag wrong, they HAVE to legally sell it to you at that price.. my friend got a portable HD for £50 which was labelled £49 instead of £99, the shop made the error and they said it was an error but they said they do have to sell it at that price.[/quote] The legal positions are different there though. In the shop the price label is an invitation to treat, the contract is when it is rung up at the till. In this case it has got as far as the till and rung up £50. In the shop, if the till rings up £150, that's what your contracts says you have to pay. You could take a civil action against the shop for mislabeling the item, but they would not be forced to sell you the item at the point of sale. Most store policy is to sell you the item and change the label, because it's not worth the hassle, and the staff rarely know otherwise.

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Which way are your fingers hitting the stings? if you are pushing them down into the bass rather than across the face of it, that will do it.

Have you heard from Grandon recently? Seems to have vanished. This was before he had the custom Kent Armstrong's made for his basses, so guessing these are Bartolinis? Heard the have a rep for being rather dark, and a pain to have stuff fit in the same hole.

Whatcha got planned for that V-Type then? Is the Ampeg lighter?

Peavey ones do 4 ohm bridged, mine might be going soon.