jon H Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi I need to re-tube my mesa 400+ its currently got mesa tubes but I dont want to use them again as they're so expensive! and its not got any warranty to void. Any mesa 400+ owners on here? what are you running/ran/recommend?? Also I was thinking of tryng to sell it as it is, but as it needs re-tubing and setting up properly think it would be worth much? or should I get it running and then sell it? Not sure what I should do. Not in a band so have no need for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddys nose Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I used- [url="https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?page=view_products&category_id=6&sub_category_id=57"]https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?pa..._category_id=57[/url] But with the £>$ it might not appear so cheap but the JJ Tube/Valves are a great product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 If your amp is fixed bias like most Mesa's, you'll need to get tubes that are firstly all matched and secondly are matched at an acceptable rating for your amp. An amp tech can advise and Watford can supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 A +1 on the JJ valves - don't bother with the Mesa tubes - they're just re-branded Chinese ones. If you're near Surrey there's only one place to go - [url="http://www.stevesamps.co.uk"]http://www.stevesamps.co.uk[/url] As for the value of the amp, as it is with no faults apart from the re-tube needed and if it's in good condition, you've got to be expecting more than £750 for it, probably more if the buyer can get cheap tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Watford Valves are doing a deal on a full 400+ valve set IIRC... Check 'em out. From experience I've found it best to phone them for advice, prices, etc as their emailing is a bit sporadic. ATB, JTB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon H Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) [quote name='jonthebass' post='762593' date='Mar 3 2010, 09:10 AM']Watford Valves are doing a deal on a full 400+ valve set IIRC... Check 'em out. From experience I've found it best to phone them for advice, prices, etc as their emailing is a bit sporadic. ATB, JTB[/quote] thanks for the help guys!, yeah 'Watford Valves' are doing a deal on a set of HARMA Cryo 5881's for £193! not bad atall. Are they good valves?, or should I get JJ TESLA 6L6GC's?? Edited March 3, 2010 by jon H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 probably overkill, not sure what benefits freezing the tubes offer on a stage when competing against a marshall stack and a wall of cymbals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon H Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 [quote name='Crazykiwi' post='763296' date='Mar 3 2010, 08:03 PM']probably overkill, not sure what benefits freezing the tubes offer on a stage when competing against a marshall stack and a wall of cymbals.[/quote] but could I get a full "good set" cheaper elsewhere? I need it to be as salelable as posible! as I want to make my money back. I've got a flight case for the head, and a big cab for it (also in a flight case) think its an old mesa cab but not sure, its got a 15" at the bottom and a selection of speakers at the top! havent looked at it recently but I will dig it out and take a pic of it as someone on here will probably recognise/name it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 My tech got me 24 Groove Tube 6l6's for my 2 Strategy power amps for 425 quid, now quite sure how that works out per tube but they certainly sound awesome now, just about to get my 400+ done as well for my upcoming tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebassman Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) [quote name='jon H' post='763276' date='Mar 3 2010, 07:39 PM']thanks for the help guys!, yeah 'Watford Valves' are doing a deal on a set of HARMA Cryo 5881's for £193! not bad atall. Are they good valves?, or should I get JJ TESLA 6L6GC's??[/quote] harma are a good choice, just get the non cryogenic type. I used these in my 400+ and they sound as good as originals. Watford were doing a matched 12 set for £144. Edited March 4, 2010 by thebassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I also had a matched set of Harmas from Watford valves, give them a ring and tell 'em your a baschatter. As far as I know, the valves I out in my 400+ about 4 years ago are still going strong. ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon H Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 damn it, had a tech have a look at it and its a bit more f***ed than I thought! it basically needs all the biasing parts replaced (not too bad £6 each x12) and a few other not so good bits and pieces replaced, plus the retube. Think its had a very hard life and one or two not so good owners being so old!! think I need to wait for a couple more pay cheques before I tackle it! unless someone on here wants to take it on? will sell it cheap as it is now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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