fretmeister Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Anyone tried both these cabs? I've been slightly thinking about a UL410 when the Tec caught my eye too. Aside from the £300 price difference - anyone got any opinions on these 2? ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 [quote name='fretmeister' post='701548' date='Jan 5 2010, 01:19 PM']Anyone tried both these cabs? I've been slightly thinking about a UL410 when the Tec caught my eye too. Aside from the £300 price difference - anyone got any opinions on these 2? ta[/quote] I owned the original Tech-Soundsystems 4x10 (the ND410s) and the Epifani UL610. I would say the tech had the sweeter tone and the Epifani was a little more..ermm.. creamy/chewy. It's really hard to describe tone as it is really down to personal..well.. taste ha ha!! Out of the two - if I had to purchase - I would probably go for the Techs as I preferred the tweeter sound/crossover - but the Epifani is still a blindingly good cabinet. Obviously the 610 on it's own had the better bottom end in comparison to a single Tech 410, as to be expected - but the pair of Techs I had made a fantastic 'mini 8x10' set up that never ever gave up when being given 'the juice' from my amps. I haven't tried the newer style Tec-Amp cabinets yet - but I understand they are an improvement on the previous, with better speakers in. - Well - the originals were very good - so I think the new ones must be awesome! That's just my personal taste - but to be honest - I would have either - just more likely to lean to the Tec gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Thank your dood-ness! I think I'm going to split up the Rig of Doom and just go with 1 good amp and 1 good cab. It's not like I'm gigging these days so carting a 2 rig split system is a bit silly. I like "chewy" sounds! I've always been a 12inch cone and a load of compression sort of bloke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 [quote name='fretmeister' post='701624' date='Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM']Thank your dood-ness! I think I'm going to split up the Rig of Doom and just go with 1 good amp and 1 good cab. It's not like I'm gigging these days so carting a 2 rig split system is a bit silly. I like "chewy" sounds! I've always been a 12inch cone and a load of compression sort of bloke![/quote] Ahh no problem! - I have to admit I was eye-ing up the Tech site just last night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E sharp Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 [quote name='fretmeister' post='701548' date='Jan 5 2010, 01:19 PM']Anyone tried both these cabs? I've been slightly thinking about a UL410 when the Tec caught my eye too. Aside from the £300 price difference - anyone got any opinions on these 2? ta[/quote] I haven't tried the Tech , but I have the UL410 , and it's great . When it was reviewed in Bass Player , they loved it , but said that it maybe wasn't that great for rock styles . I find that it'll do pretty much anything (all down to taste I know) I see Dood mentioned the UL610 , and I bought his off of him . Awesome cab - think UL410 but more bottom if needed . If you look at the web page of the Bass Gallery , you'll see the Epifani prices WELL down on what they were . So much so that , the UL610 I bought from Dood , that was selling new for around £1500 , is now up for £900 -the price I paid 2nd hand I happily paid that , as it was a series one ( a bit lighter ) , and I bought , for me , the perfect cab . If you check out their web page , the UL410's are now around £700 I think , not cheap , but a lot cheaper that they were . The only problem I can see , is being able to AB both cabs , as it always seems to be that one retailer doesn't stock all of the high end bass gear . ie if you want Epi - it's the Gallery , Bergs - it's Bass Direct etc . What we need , is for someone to win the Lottery jackpot , and open a large unit factory , buy every possible cab on the market , and then set up a 410 room , a 112 room etc - to propery AB them , as by the time you've tried one at a shop , you've almost forgotten the sound when you have to travel miles to the next shop . I'm rambling now I know . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Not sure where you are, but I'm gigging the L410 twice this month in Portsmouth if you want to check it out? I like having my backline loud so you might get to hear it quite well, but I guess it depends how well I manage to convince the sound guy to let me have it loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 alas - Northampton way. Thanks for the offer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 What amp are you planning to use? The Epi doesn't sound great with all amps IME.I would get a series 1 4 ohm cab unless you have a big amp to push at 8ohms. The later ones can be heavy too I hear. I've had a fantastic deep big tone with the UL410 using a QSC poweramp and EBSpre, also sounded great with a Markbass LM11 but not so good with my Puma or Glockenklang or Aguilar DB750. Havent heard the 410 Tecamp but I have a M212 and S210 and have owned (briefly) a L610 and a L115. I think they are very good cabs, very light and can take a load of power. Very modern sounding and probably a bit clearer than the Epi but not as naturally deep sounding as the Epi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I've run an 8 ohm Epifani UL410 with all of my amps and they all sounded great. At approx 300 watts into 8 ohms I easily kept up with a very loud guitarist and drummer so I don't subscribe to the 4 ohm is better than 8 ohm debate. I haven't tried a Tecamp cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 [quote]so I don't subscribe to the 4 ohm is better than 8 ohm debate[/quote] I don't think I was taking part in any such debate but wouldn't it make sense to buy a cab that matches your amp and gives most power?(Assuming you are after a single cab option) In fact if I wanted a single Epi410 I would get an 8ohm because the Puma puts 1000w into 8ohm and 500 into 4 ohm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 I have an Ampeg B5R and a LM2 and currently using a GS112, which is lovely for small jams. The LM2 needs 4ohm for max output, but the B5R will run at 2ohms... strill, that gives the option of 2 UL410s.... Not that my wallet could cope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 [quote name='Flanker' post='702417' date='Jan 6 2010, 07:42 AM']....I don't think I was taking part in any such debate but wouldn't it make sense to buy a cab that matches your amp and gives most power?(Assuming you are after a single cab option) In fact if I wanted a single Epi410 I would get an 8ohm because the Puma puts 1000w into 8ohm and 500 into 4 ohm....[/quote] Well, there have been many postings about 4 vs 8 so I just mentioned it in passing. I think that you get a better sound and tone by adding another speaker cab not running your amp louder so 1 or 2 8 ohm cabs are my preference. As always IMO IME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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