TheGreek Posted June 29 Posted June 29 You'll come home completely demoralised but you know she'll be amazing. https://www.ronniescotts.co.uk/find-a-show/kinga-glyk?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=120225536810600570&utm_term=120225536810610570&utm_content=120225536810590570&utm_id=120225536810600570 Quote
Hellzero Posted June 29 Posted June 29 (edited) She is an amazing bassist for sure, but this new band is really meh, too much (bad) synths in it, sometimes the sax is also doing his thing with a sax thingy synth and eventually it becomes a boring gig... She was more entertaining with the previous band and album. I've been following her since almost the beginning and have all the records, but this last band iteration is too Polish for my liking (synths everywhere, hey we are not in the 80's anymore). Edited June 30 by Hellzero Syntax Quote
itu Posted June 30 Posted June 30 What would Kinga and Basia do together? A lame Matt Bianco reunion, or something interesting? Quote
Hellzero Posted June 30 Posted June 30 5 hours ago, itu said: What would Kinga and Basia do together? A lame Matt Bianco reunion, or something interesting? First proposition for sure. 2 Quote
Linus27 Posted June 30 Posted June 30 I've got tickets and really can't wait. Not sure my wife is going to enjoy it though, I think the level of musicianship will go totally over her head 😆 Quote
Grooverjr Posted June 30 Posted June 30 If the music only works as musicianship and isn't something a non-musician can appreciate then is it good music, or just good technique? The best stuff works on both levels, with the musicianship adding a dimension but not getting in the way. 2 hours ago, Linus27 said: I've got tickets and really can't wait. Not sure my wife is going to enjoy it though, I think the level of musicianship will go totally over her head 😆 1 Quote
Linus27 Posted June 30 Posted June 30 26 minutes ago, Grooverjr said: If the music only works as musicianship and isn't something a non-musician can appreciate then is it good music, or just good technique? The best stuff works on both levels, with the musicianship adding a dimension but not getting in the way. I have no idea, I just know my wife likes Marilyn Manson, Linkin Park, 90's grunge and dance. Some of the jazz I've played her she has liked and some has just been disjointed noise. I suspect this might be the latter. Not sure if that answers your question. Quote
itu Posted June 30 Posted June 30 (edited) @Grooverjr: Is Schönberg bad music, because I happen to like it or is it bad, because there are lots of others who don't? (By the way, I am not so keen on Bach, Pastorius, and Nirvana. But I have played or sang some of their work on gigs.) Edited June 30 by itu 1 Quote
Grooverjr Posted July 1 Posted July 1 21 hours ago, itu said: @Grooverjr: Is Schönberg bad music, because I happen to like it or is it bad, because there are lots of others who don't? (By the way, I am not so keen on Bach, Pastorius, and Nirvana. But I have played or sang some of their work on gigs.) I understand that tastes differ wildly but I'm talking about accessibility rather than taste. If it 'goes over the head of people who have a general enjoyment of music - meaning that they do not understand it, not that they don't like it - and the technical aspects are all that recommend it then, IMO (and other opinions are obviously available), it is failing in some kind of fundamental way. It doesn't disqualify it as a form of expression but I don't think it fits in my understanding of 'good music'. Just as on the other side if soemthing is entirely vacuus but lots of people like iit (Rock DJ being a prime example of this) I also don't think it qualifies as 'good music'. Quote
itu Posted Tuesday at 18:19 Posted Tuesday at 18:19 (edited) OK, now you are stepping to dangerous waters. You say there is good and bad art. A republican are you? Harsh start could be global musical styles, where the scales differ from western tempered scale. I suggest you to read this and come back to comment on "good music": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament See, if someone plays you music that has something else than tempered 12 notes in an octave (but instead there would be 15 - 72, and not tempered), it may sound very strange to you, as you haven't lived in such an environment. (When I was a kid, my father gathered many musical styles to his library. As an example I hate Indian music, although more than one billion people listen to it.) Musical scales are a learned/agreed thing. In western music even the A has been moving from say 390 Hz to something like 470 Hz. 440 Hz was recommended by a conference in 1834, but this was adopted as a standard no earlier than 1955! Oh yes, check Comma, too. I think your understanding of "good" music depends on the environment you have been living in. If your taste does not understand different musical styles, or music from other areas, they may sound "bad" to your ear. It still does not mean the art is "bad" per se. Yes, I know there are bad performances available (try F. Foster-Jenkins - Queen of the night). But is the music "bad", then? Yes, I hate B. Springsteen's voice, but after my bandmate sang Born to run, I understood the music behind Bruce's voice. Edited Tuesday at 18:21 by itu 1 Quote
Hellzero Posted Tuesday at 20:22 Posted Tuesday at 20:22 But what is music? It's perfectly summarised in the title of this really great 30 years old tune. 2 Quote
Quatschmacher Posted Tuesday at 20:58 Posted Tuesday at 20:58 If it’s the same band she had with her last year at the jazz cafe, it’ll be great. Quote
lowdown Posted Tuesday at 22:33 Posted Tuesday at 22:33 1 hour ago, Hellzero said: But what is music? It's perfectly summarised in the title of this really great 30 years old tune. Marvellous...It's been a while since I listened to that gem!! Not everyone's cup of tea, but for me, it has everything. A killer groove, surrounded by hooky melodies and tight harmonies. And of course, top playing with a super feel from all. On 29/06/2025 at 21:56, Hellzero said: She is an amazing bassist for sure, but this new band is really meh, too much (bad) synths in it, sometimes the sax is also doing his thing with a sax thingy synth and eventually it becomes a boring gig... I think that's Hailey Niswanger, who usually plays Tenor, Alto and Soprano, but plays some of the Kinga Glyk gig on a Roland Aerophone (I think that's what it is or was announced as). There are two Synths in the band (or there was) playing similar sounds, so yeah, it can sound a bit boring and does sound a bit pedestrian note wise. Maybe she hasn't been playing it long? Certainly not as exciting, moving, or a big wow moment like when Michael Brecker played 'In a Sentimental Mood' with his EWI, accompanied by Mike Mainieri, leading into 'Trains', live in Tokyo back in the day. But then again, those guys were another level of musicianship, so maybe I'm being a tad unfair comparing. Just my opinion, of course. But back on track with the OP... yeah, I think Kinga plays great and will be worth the admission fee at Ronnie Scott's. 1 Quote
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