Radial JDI over HX Stomp DI difference

[Faithless]

I've found this stereo Radial JDI passive stereo DI available.

Would that noticeably improve my active bass & Moog Little Phatty's live sound instead of using my HX Stomp's balanced  outs?

I know Stomp has pretty damn good outs already. If's it will give like 10% margin difference tops, I don't wanna bother.

 

I play lots of live and I'm always afraid running Stomp's DI to get Phantom power fed and Stomp fried..

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 19:21 by Faithless

[Sibob]

Because the Stomps balanced outs are only 1/4”, you’re likely connecting it to the Line In of a desk, which doesn’t receive Phantom Power. Even if you’re using a TS -> XLR cable, because the pins are not exactly the same, what the HX Stomp then receives in the way of phantom power isn’t damaging, although I’ve heard it ruins the tone/signal. All that to say that you’ll HEAR that PP is on before you do any damage.

 

That said I’d always consider adding a DI box to a small Stomp pedalboard purely because then I’m not relying on finding/carrying a fairly specialist TS -> XLR cable and can simply rely on bog-standard XLR cables.

 

So why not run the JDI after your Stomp, best of both worlds and great mini board!

 

My backup setup for a while, need to replace the Stagebug at some point as it was on loan:

 

 

Si
 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Sibob

[Faithless]

Thanks for detailed reply, Sibob.

 

Well, as a matter of fact, I do have TS -> XLR cables custom made for running DI out of Stomp!

4 hours ago, Sibob said:

 Even if you’re using a TS -> XLR cable, because the pins are not exactly the same, what the HX Stomp then receives in the way of phantom power isn’t damaging, although I’ve heard it ruins the tone/signal. All that to say that you’ll HEAR that PP is on before you do any damage.

 

 

 

I'm not exactly sure, how I'd hear it in this particular scenario? Thank you.

 

Overall, I hear it kind of defeats the necessity of obtaining such a DI, merely because of the groundloop function it wins against Stomp's DI..

PS What a lovely board you got there!

Edited 17 hours ago by Faithless

[walshy]

I run the JDI after the stomp too, makes the sound engineer happier

[Supernaut]

I have a ProDI for emergency situations and everyone has loved it. 

[Jack]

10 hours ago, Faithless said:

Well, as a matter of fact, I do have TS -> XLR cables custom made for running DI out of Stomp!

TS or TRS? It would have to be trs to be balanced. I always used a trs>xlr adaptor cable when I was the soundman, because I trust me. Whenever I had someone else on the desk I always used a separate di but that was more about isolation and phantom power protection than sound. The stomp sounded great. 

[MartinB]

17 hours ago, Sibob said:

what the HX Stomp then receives in the way of phantom power isn’t damaging, although I’ve heard it ruins the tone/signal. All that to say that you’ll HEAR that PP is on before you do any damage

I've read the the same thing here and there, and always along the lines of "it degrades the sound" but with no specifics. I've just tested my Stomp with phantom power from my audio interface, and it sounded the same to me either way 🤷‍♂️. It also didn't explode, which was nice!

 

Depending on stage layout and who's providing the bass amp, I sometimes use a short TRS - XLR cable, and other times an Orchid Electronics DI box