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solo4652

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Terry M. Mentor

Terry M.

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Are you familiar with the Nashville Numbering System? As in chord numbers? 2-5-1 for example? This piece of music is in C minor mostly before going up a semitone after the bridge. 

 

Start by familiarising yourself with the intro verse and choruses before the bridge. Two bars of C one bar of F and last bar Ab and G.Or the 1 to the 4 and then the 6 to the 5 in C Minor. The 4 6 5 movement repeats before the 1st and 2nd chorus chant and the bridge section.

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Burns-bass Grand Master

Burns-bass

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1 hour ago, Terry M. said:

Are you familiar with the Nashville Numbering System? As in chord numbers? 2-5-1 for example? This piece of music is in C minor mostly before going up a semitone after the bridge. 

 

Start by familiarising yourself with the intro verse and choruses before the bridge. Two bars of C one bar of F and last bar Ab and G.Or the 1 to the 4 and then the 6 to the 5 in C Minor. The 4 6 5 movement repeats before the 1st and 2nd chorus chant and the bridge section.


This is good advice, but an easier way to approach this is as an F minor pentatonic if you’re learning it.
 

This is a uptempo bluesy soul track and that scale would fit much better for the fills (obviously need to modulate too).

Terry M. Mentor

Terry M.

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18 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:


This is good advice, but an easier way to approach this is as an F minor pentatonic if you’re learning it.
 

This is a uptempo bluesy soul track and that scale would fit much better for the fills (obviously need to modulate too).

I'm always open to learning so appreciate the suggestion. When I get to my bass later I'll try what you said. The last thing I want to do is confuse things 👍

Burns-bass Grand Master

Burns-bass

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36 minutes ago, Terry M. said:

I'm always open to learning so appreciate the suggestion. When I get to my bass later I'll try what you said. The last thing I want to do is confuse things 👍


As long as you play the right notes the scale doesn’t matter!

Burns-bass Grand Master

Burns-bass

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39 minutes ago, solo4652 said:

Aha! Thanks for that. It's a bit difficult to follow, since Chordify lags behind the song. Nevertheless, that's a big help.


GPT coming to help here…

 

—-

 

 

🎶 “Lose It” – Ben l’Oncle Soul

 

 

Key: C minor → modulates up to C♯ minor

Time: 4/4

Feel: Soul / Funk groove

Bass scale suggestion: C minor pentatonic → C♯ minor pentatonic (post-bridge)

 

 

 

 

🎸 Intro (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Cm | Cm |

| Fm | Fm | Ab | G |

 

 

 

 

🎤 Verse 1 (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Chorus (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎤 Verse 2 (8 bars – same as Verse 1)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Chorus (repeat – same as before)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🌉 Bridge (8 bars – Modulation starts here)

 

 

Modulates up 1 semitone to C♯ minor

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Final Chorus (in new key: C♯ minor)

 

 

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

 

 

 

 

🎵 Outro

 

 

Repeat chorus progression in C♯ minor and fade out.

 

 

 

 

🎸 Bass Groove Tips:

 

 

Use pentatonic scales for fills:

C minor pentatonic (before bridge): C, Eb, F, G, Bb

C♯ minor pentatonic (after modulation): C♯, E, F♯, G♯, B

 

Emphasise the root–5th–octave movement for funk feel.

Fill ideas over Ab–G walkdowns: consider chromatic or scale-wise lines to connect smoothly.

 

solo4652 Mentor

solo4652

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14 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:


GPT coming to help here…

 

—-

 

 

🎶 “Lose It” – Ben l’Oncle Soul

 

 

Key: C minor → modulates up to C♯ minor

Time: 4/4

Feel: Soul / Funk groove

Bass scale suggestion: C minor pentatonic → C♯ minor pentatonic (post-bridge)

 

 

 

 

🎸 Intro (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Cm | Cm |

| Fm | Fm | Ab | G |

 

 

 

 

🎤 Verse 1 (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Chorus (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎤 Verse 2 (8 bars – same as Verse 1)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Chorus (repeat – same as before)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🌉 Bridge (8 bars – Modulation starts here)

 

 

Modulates up 1 semitone to C♯ minor

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Final Chorus (in new key: C♯ minor)

 

 

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

 

 

 

 

🎵 Outro

 

 

Repeat chorus progression in C♯ minor and fade out.

 

 

 

 

🎸 Bass Groove Tips:

 

 

Use pentatonic scales for fills:

C minor pentatonic (before bridge): C, Eb, F, G, Bb

C♯ minor pentatonic (after modulation): C♯, E, F♯, G♯, B

 

Emphasise the root–5th–octave movement for funk feel.

Fill ideas over Ab–G walkdowns: consider chromatic or scale-wise lines to connect smoothly.

 

Gracious me - that's extremely helpful. Can I just check the Intro; Chordify is suggesting Cm  - Bbm - Fm - Ab/Bb. How does that look to you, please?

Terry M. Mentor

Terry M.

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44 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:


GPT coming to help here…

 

—-

 

 

🎶 “Lose It” – Ben l’Oncle Soul

 

 

Key: C minor → modulates up to C♯ minor

Time: 4/4

Feel: Soul / Funk groove

Bass scale suggestion: C minor pentatonic → C♯ minor pentatonic (post-bridge)

 

 

 

 

🎸 Intro (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Cm | Cm |

| Fm | Fm | Ab | G |

 

 

 

 

🎤 Verse 1 (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Chorus (8 bars)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎤 Verse 2 (8 bars – same as Verse 1)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Chorus (repeat – same as before)

 

 

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

| Cm | Cm | Fm | Ab G |

 

 

 

 

🌉 Bridge (8 bars – Modulation starts here)

 

 

Modulates up 1 semitone to C♯ minor

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

 

 

 

 

🎶 Final Chorus (in new key: C♯ minor)

 

 

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

| C♯m | C♯m | F♯m | A B |

 

 

 

 

🎵 Outro

 

 

Repeat chorus progression in C♯ minor and fade out.

 

 

 

 

🎸 Bass Groove Tips:

 

 

Use pentatonic scales for fills:

C minor pentatonic (before bridge): C, Eb, F, G, Bb

C♯ minor pentatonic (after modulation): C♯, E, F♯, G♯, B

 

Emphasise the root–5th–octave movement for funk feel.

Fill ideas over Ab–G walkdowns: consider chromatic or scale-wise lines to connect smoothly.

 

Pretty much what I said I think? I suggested the piece was in C minor before the half step modulation to C# after the bridge. GPT is saying what I said in the verses and chorus of two bars of C then a bar of F followed by a bar of Ab and G. F Minor pentatonic as you suggested doesn't sound right?  🙂 I only got as far as the chorus before the bridge as I was waiting to hear from the OP before going any further.

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Terry M. Mentor

Terry M.

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5 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Isn't  Ab to G 6 to 5 rather than 5 to 6?

 

Start by familiarising yourself with the intro verse and choruses before the bridge. Two bars of C one bar of F and last bar Ab and G.Or the 1 to the 4 and then the 6 to the 5 in C Minor. The 4 6 5 movement repeats before the 1st and 2nd chorus chant and the bridge section.

Edited 10 hours ago by Terry M.

 

Yes this is what I said originally. No mention of 5 to 6.

Burns-bass Grand Master

Burns-bass

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8 hours ago, Terry M. said:

Pretty much what I said I think? I suggested the piece was in C minor before the half step modulation to C# after the bridge. GPT is saying what I said in the verses and chorus of two bars of C then a bar of F followed by a bar of Ab and G. F Minor pentatonic as you suggested doesn't sound right?  🙂 I only got as far as the chorus before the bridge as I was waiting to hear from the OP before going any further.


It’s a Motown style track, so C minor wouldn’t really fit the “vibe”.
 

People don’t think in terms of scales when compositing. You can try playing C minor fills over this but it’s not going to sound good!

 

Anyway, we’ve got all the right notes for the OP to play it. Which is much more important!

Terry M. Mentor

Terry M.

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27 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:


It’s a Motown style track, so C minor wouldn’t really fit the “vibe”.
 

People don’t think in terms of scales when compositing. You can try playing C minor fills over this but it’s not going to sound good!

 

Anyway, we’ve got all the right notes for the OP to play it. Which is much more important!

Okay cool. I never once referred to a scale however. Your GPT post starts by saying it's in C Minor and the OP found it helpful.

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