Al Krow Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Just leaving this here! Super compact and just £80 for a multifx, amp modeller and IR loader. 2 Quote
jimfist Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Yup. Crazy amount of tech for low dough. Also loads NAM (Neural Amp Modeler) files, which replaces the amp & cab modeling blocks. Probably using serious data compression, but the guitar NAM captures sounded pretty respectable. Would love to see a bass demo using 3rd party NAM from the Tone3000 library. 1 Quote
jimfist Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Here's an Anderton's review that goes in depth. https://youtu.be/hQlsqvSOUEQ Quote
Al Krow Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 A first review on bass, looking at just the presets... Maybe just a couple on there that I might be tempted to use e.g. 49 T-Wah, but I suspect the value-add, as with many multis is going to be from creating our own patches. Quote
Paddy777 Posted Monday at 21:38 Posted Monday at 21:38 I mean for the price it’s worth it simply to use as an amp & cab modeler - you’ve got an insane amount of free open source NAM models/captures out there. From what I can gather you can run 9 fx blocks too making it more powerful than the Stomp (I’m not actually surprised, cos as great as it is, the technology is a decade behind). There is midi control too so you can presumably set it up so you can control those fx blocks via midi? I think this is a sign of things to come - over the next couple of years (or sooner!) the technology for all this stuff is going to fit on a tiny chip and it’s going to be able to be sold from manufacturers in China for buttons. I know you’re paying for all the R&D with something like the anagram but I think the days of paying a grand+ for modelers/digital rigs are coming to an end - the technology is going to be too good and too cheap elsewhere 3 Quote
jimfist Posted Tuesday at 15:15 Posted Tuesday at 15:15 Modeling & profiling have come a long way in the last 15 years. It is hard to imagine a device like the GP-5 being able to do what it does in such a small pedal at a very low cost, albeit at what I'd consider to be sub-par technical current standards as would be required by today's professionals (AD/DA conversion and latency, primarily). Be that as it may, the GP-5 proves it can be done on the cheap and is absolutely fine for applications that may not be critical. Honestly, in a bar/pub setting, the audience doesn't give a rip about tech specs. More important IMHO is how the player feels about the product. If it works, it works. I'm hoping that the bigger players in modeling multi-fx take note and implement high quality NAM capture playback as part of their next generation of products. IMO very risky if they don't. 1 Quote
Paddy777 Posted Tuesday at 17:31 Posted Tuesday at 17:31 I don’t think the GP-5 is the next big thing or anything like that - far from it, but I do think it’s a sign of things to come and that the big boys should be a bit worried by how cheap the technology is now becoming to play free NAM captures, which are very very good. Line6’s next generation (the successor to the HX products) is going to be coming at some point - Line6 has a livestream with a ‘big announcement’ coming on the 11th June, so maybe they’ll announce something then, but I think if their next gen of stuff supports NAM captures then the likes of the QC are going to look very expensive for what they actually do 2 Quote
Al Krow Posted Tuesday at 20:50 Author Posted Tuesday at 20:50 Oh that is interesting news re. there being a 'big announcement' tomorrow. Because Line 6 announced Helix on 11 June 2015 i.e. tomorrow is the 10th anniversary of Helix! Quote
Paddy777 Posted Tuesday at 21:15 Posted Tuesday at 21:15 16 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Oh that is interesting news re. there being a 'big announcement' tomorrow. Because Line 6 announced Helix on 11 June 2015 i.e. tomorrow is the 10th anniversary of Helix! That’s what the livestream is “in aid of” or that’s the justification of it, but they’ve really pulled the big guns out - they’ve invited loads of guitar influencers to Line6HQ for it and really built it up. The speculation is that they’ll announce Helix firmware 4.0 which will have NAM compatibility but that could be wishful thinking or completely unfounded - they might even announce or give a teaser for next gen Helix 2.0 but the counter to that is that the current Helix software is only 18 months old and so I’m leaning towards the former, but I haven’t got a clue I to don’t even own anything Line6 anymore (but that may be about to change post-livestream if they do announce NAM compatibility). The livestream is 7pm tomorrow (11th) I’ll link it below 👇 2 Quote
Paddy777 Posted yesterday at 11:41 Posted yesterday at 11:41 (edited) On 09/06/2025 at 22:38, Paddy777 said: I mean for the price it’s worth it simply to use as an amp & cab modeler - you’ve got an insane amount of free open source NAM models/captures out there. From what I can gather you can run 9 fx blocks too making it more powerful than the Stomp (I’m not actually surprised, cos as great as it is, the technology is a decade behind). There is midi control too so you can presumably set it up so you can control those fx blocks via midi? I think this is a sign of things to come - over the next couple of years (or sooner!) the technology for all this stuff is going to fit on a tiny chip and it’s going to be able to be sold from manufacturers in China for buttons. I know you’re paying for all the R&D with something like the anagram but I think the days of paying a grand+ for modelers/digital rigs are coming to an end - the technology is going to be too good and too cheap elsewhere ….and two days after saying this Line6 announce the launch of a brand new multi fx/amp modeler that’ll be absolute minimum £2K 🤣 However what the Helix Stadium can do and the quality & level of detail of the tube amp simulation etc sounds like it’s going to be insane, but NAM captures are still legitimately excellent, and so the technology for that will be available for next to nothing (comparatively). I think what the big boys are going to be able to charge the big bucks for is the ongoing new fx/models, support & updates as Helix do now. Back to the original post tho I’m definitely getting one of these to use as a cab sim, or maybe an amp/cab sim, in which case I may drop my preamp and just use different dirt pedals for different flavours running into the amp model, but we’ll see If anyone is interested in what free NAM captures are available this website 👇 has loads on, and you can listen to them with several different styles of bass playing etc. There’s some very nice sounding rigs on there, I just found I couldn’t think what yo search for much past Ampeg, GK and a couple of others - the Avalon VT737 Channel Strip capture sounds really good https://www.tone3000.com Edited yesterday at 11:50 by Paddy777 1 Quote
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