NancyJohnson Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Not tending to do much home recording at the moment; got all the instruments, but guitar amp is elsewhere (and always such a faff to fire up, mic and use in the house). Never used amp-sims in my life, my only experience of anything similar is one producer insisting on recording guitars clean then adding effects in post. Armed with this, I just avoided them like the plague. Decided to spend an hour or two getting my head around amp sims. I'm running Cakewalk as my DAW, initially installed the Neural Amp Modeller (easy) and a couple .nam patches (it was harder trying to find the directory where to put these) and fired up Cakewalk. Honestly blown away. I downloaded a few more .nam files and some IRs. All free. Want to try and SVT through a Fender Tweed emulator? No problem. Want to sound like Eddie Van Halen? No problem. Within minutes I realised how unnecessary it was to have an amp set-up for home recording. I spent about four hours in all...a wonderful bank holiday diversion from the wind and rain happening outside. Only downside is my PC is woefully low on RAM so was getting some pops, so I've ordered a 16gb of (new) RAM. 7 Quote
Beedster Posted May 27 Posted May 27 36 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said: Not tending to do much home recording at the moment; got all the instruments, but guitar amp is elsewhere (and always such a faff to fire up, mic and use in the house). Never used amp-sims in my life, my only experience of anything similar is one producer insisting on recording guitars clean then adding effects in post. Armed with this, I just avoided them like the plague. Decided to spend an hour or two getting my head around amp sims. I'm running Cakewalk as my DAW, initially installed the Neural Amp Modeller (easy) and a couple .nam patches (it was harder trying to find the directory where to put these) and fired up Cakewalk. Honestly blown away. I downloaded a few more .nam files and some IRs. All free. Want to try and SVT through a Fender Tweed emulator? No problem. Want to sound like Eddie Van Halen? No problem. Within minutes I realised how unnecessary it was to have an amp set-up for home recording. I spent about four hours in all...a wonderful bank holiday diversion from the wind and rain happening outside. Only downside is my PC is woefully low on RAM so was getting some pops, so I've ordered a 16gb of (new) RAM. Recording is a whole lot easier than it used to be 👍 1 Quote
Dood Posted May 27 Posted May 27 The free Neural Amp Modeller is absolutely incredible, nearly as incredible as Steve Atkinson, the designer who as far as I know is still giving away the code as "open source". Darkglass' brand new Anagram processor has the NAM player embedded and, Steve makes available the profiling side of the software for free so that you can capture your own gear!! The actually quality of the captures tested against the original is comparable if not better than some modellers out there, the internet says. I think there's a few other brands that are starting to integrate NAM in their processors too such as Valeton (GP-5) and Sonicake (Pocket Master). Its an exciting time to be alive! I do have rather too many amp sims, IR's and captures on my desktop, I can suffer from option peralysis at times but as @Beedster says, it's a whole lot easier these days - and cheaper! There's a few groups / pages I follow that offer up cheap and free plugin deals; the quality of these are just brilliant. Even the "bad ones" are still infinitely better than my old Zoom 2020, 4040, 8080 or 9050S I owned 'back in the day'! Bonkers!! Check out sites such as The Bedroom Producer's Blog, Anmer Hunter's YouTube channel, Plugin Boutique, Plugin Alliance umm... definitely United Plugins! I love United Plugins!! They have a birthday deal on, I would highly recommend anyone doing recording to buy everything by FireSonic from their deals. There's loads of resources out there. I grabbed STL's AmpHub LE the other day for free from Focusrite to try it out. I'd bought an 8 Pre interface last year. I use the Neural DSP amp plugins the most, especially the Cory Wong X. You'll hear the SSL desk emulation on pretty much everything I record, it sounds SO good! I could go on, but those at the back have fallen asleep already! 4 Quote
SteveXFR Posted May 27 Posted May 27 When my last band recorded, the oroducer used amp sims to great effect. My bass signal went through an SVT for clean channel and a Marshall plexi for the dirt. It sounded amazing. 1 Quote
Dood Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 minute ago, SteveXFR said: When my last band recorded, the oroducer used amp sims to great effect. My bass signal went through an SVT for clean channel and a Marshall plexi for the dirt. It sounded amazing. You've just reminded me! When I was a wee whipper snapper, I'd read that Duff McKagan from Guns n Roses recorded his bass split between his bass rig and a guitar amp. At the time I had a little Marshall Bass 12 combo and my friend had the Lead 12 guitar version. Well, it wasn't long before we had the two stacked on top of each other with my bass plugged in to both. Honestly, even at that point as an impressionable oik, I was smitten with blending the mids of a guitar amp tone in to my bass sound. - And to think we can do all of that and more for free without leaving the house these days, crazy! 1 Quote
Muzz Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I've got a couple of presets on the Stomp I've made with a split of the signal (and you can HPF/LPF the signals, too) between a bass amp (lots of choice) and a guitar amp (even more choice) for that Chris Wolstenholme/Royal Blood kinda sound, it's really useful and they sound pretty good live, too. 1 Quote
SteveXFR Posted May 27 Posted May 27 39 minutes ago, Dood said: You've just reminded me! When I was a wee whipper snapper, I'd read that Duff McKagan from Guns n Roses recorded his bass split between his bass rig and a guitar amp. At the time I had a little Marshall Bass 12 combo and my friend had the Lead 12 guitar version. Well, it wasn't long before we had the two stacked on top of each other with my bass plugged in to both. Honestly, even at that point as an impressionable oik, I was smitten with blending the mids of a guitar amp tone in to my bass sound. - And to think we can do all of that and more for free without leaving the house these days, crazy! It's not an uncommon setup. I first saw it used by Lou Barlow from Dinosaur Jr. Using an Ampeg SVT and Peavey 5150 guitar amp and it sounded absolutely filthy! So much better than overdrive pedals. 1 Quote
Dood Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 hour ago, SteveXFR said: It's not an uncommon setup. I first saw it used by Lou Barlow from Dinosaur Jr. Using an Ampeg SVT and Peavey 5150 guitar amp and it sounded absolutely filthy! So much better than overdrive pedals. Absolutely! As a young upstart, learning my way in bass, it was all new to me, I hadn’t even heard of Billy Sheehan and the likes at that point, aged 10, 11 or so. Wow, I remember when James Brown and Peavey brought out the 5150 (No not THAT James Brown lol) - Speaking of guitar tones, that’s a model I use very often! Doug Pinnick at the point should get a mention! Quote
steve-bbb Posted May 27 Posted May 27 iRig pro + amplitube 😄 the amplitube svt clone is extremley usable for 'home' work Quote
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