Golightly 0 Posted January 21, 2020 Hi all, took delivery of an Orange Crush Bass 50 last week and with all eq set to noon and blend/ gain off the volume is not that impressive with the bass volume and amp volume at max. I'm playing in a room that's about 12 by 9 feet in size. Am I expecting to much from 50W? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat Burrito 1,585 Posted January 21, 2020 50w solid state bass is not that loud but I have the Vox practice amp (VX50) that when cranked up, it keeps up with a drummer and a guitarist in a 3 piece rock n roll band. Are you playing alone or with musicians? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golightly 0 Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Alone! It gets louder when the eq and blend are used obviously, I just expected it to be reasonably loud flat. Edited January 21, 2020 by Golightly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat Burrito 1,585 Posted January 21, 2020 Orange is my main brand of choice and you usually have to dial in a bit of the gain to get any response from the volume. You should however be getting a lot of volume from it for what you are using it for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golightly 0 Posted January 21, 2020 That's what I thought, not sure where to go next! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty McFly 0 Posted February 12 (edited) Golightly....I have the same problem. I did a trade and I really didn't test the amp. It looked brand new. My meter said the speaker was 12 and a half ohms so I got a new speaker from Orange from Georgia. Turns out I needed to clean the contacts on my meter the old speaker IS 4 ohms LOL Like you with everything flat I can run it at 10 and it's not that loud at all. It's pretty bad when your Fender Rumble 25 watt with an 8in speaker is about the same volume. I don't know what's happening I took it apart and I'm just looking around but I don't see anything. Are they just quiet with everything at noon? It seems like a 15 watt amp. 20210212_110343.heic Edited February 12 by Marty McFly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BassmanPaul 127 Posted February 12 Turn up the gain control. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Fitzmaurice 909 Posted February 12 Two points to make here. First, the tone controls make a big difference in the output. 6dB of bass boost is equivalent to boosting power by a factor of four. According to Orange the bass EQ is capable of +/-15dB. That means with the bass control flat and the volume full you might not be getting 50w. Depending on the output level of your bass you might be getting 5w or less. Second, the difference between an amp at 25 watts and an amp at 50 watts is 3dB. 3dB is audible, but just. All else being equal if you want to sound twice as loud as 25w you'll need 250w. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BassmanPaul 127 Posted February 12 Bill, what's the use of clouding the issue with facts? LOL 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty McFly 0 Posted February 12 I understand all that Bill. A 100 watt amp is only a 'tiny' bit louder than a 50. One watt per channel on the power meters of a stereo amp is a loud. But even at that, I have owned 160 guitars and a boat load of amps both bass and guitar....this is pretty anemic. And why would I want to add gain for volume? This is a pretty weak amp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Fitzmaurice 909 Posted February 12 With the controls at noon maybe. So turn them up, that's what they're there for! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty McFly 0 Posted February 12 Ok I TURNED THEM UP Bill. Maybe I expect too much. I may have to remember its a practice amp...... I appreciate your responses! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozz196 5,605 Posted February 12 It sounds to me like a problem, I have an Ashdown 15 watt combo with an eight inch integral speaker and with all eq at noon it’s too loud to have on max volume with a passive Jazz bass, wouldn’t be considerate of my neighbours. It’s in my spare room, approx 10ft x 10ft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BassAdder27 139 Posted February 12 My Ampeg BA110 40w is nearly loud enough to play with a drummer ! For large room home practice my volume is about 2 to 3 and it’s got a lot more in the tank Sounds odd that a 50w is quiet at home unless it’s not 50w RMS rated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Fitzmaurice 909 Posted February 12 My 50w '65 Bassman was loud enough to gig, but never without the bass control on 10, and if it had gone to 11 I'd have done so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stub Mandrel 10,496 Posted February 13 On 21/01/2020 at 11:26, Golightly said: Hi all, took delivery of an Orange Crush Bass 50 last week and with all eq set to noon and blend/ gain off the volume is not that impressive with the bass volume and amp volume at max. I'm playing in a room that's about 12 by 9 feet in size. Am I expecting to much from 50W? Two thoughts... you haven't got the 6dB pad button pressed down? That will make it sound like a 12W amp. Second, to get a decent level of output you need the gain set high. Roll the blend control back to get a cleaner sound, not the gain. These are tricky amps to understand, I was put off when I tried one in PMT but it was because I didn't understand how the gain and blend controls interact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
