ben_eat_pie Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Hello there, I am confused; The current bass amp market are selling (within the 4 speaker range) cabs that are enourmusly wide and deep, and therefore back-breakingly hard to transport around. I'm seeing a big trend in the DIY market offering cabs with better sound quality, and a lot less bulky size. Could anybody inform me as to what the difference is, and why the manufacturers arn't mimicking the DIY market. Thanks guys, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraktal Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Ever heard of Markbass or Schroeder, just to name 2 examples? The current trend is all about small size and light weight. If you cant find that on the manufacturers you are checking, Im sorry to say this but you are checking the wrong brands: Too big corporations without the capability to react to the market needs, aka dinosaurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Most cab makers are still stuck with making cabs for a 19 inch rack to sit on top of. I have stuck some info in the wiki about lightweight cabs; and during my exile even more on finnbass. Fact not opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_eat_pie Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 true, but that hasn't answered the question... whats the difference in sound! Cheers for getting back to me though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [quote name='ben_eat_pie' post='346653' date='Dec 5 2008, 05:15 PM']true, but that hasn't answered the question... whats the difference in sound![/quote] Internal volume will affect the low frequency response but it doesn't matter how you get that internal volume. The taller a cab the better you will hear the midrange and treble. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Yes - the DR Bass Offset 4x10 is narrower and taller. Some of the tec-amp cabs are quite small as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 [quote name='alexclaber' post='346711' date='Dec 5 2008, 06:43 PM']Internal volume will affect the low frequency response but it doesn't matter how you get that internal volume. The taller a cab the better you will hear the midrange and treble. Alex[/quote] I know that that is what the numbers say, but to my ears, a deeper cabinet will always have more roundness to the tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 [quote name='JPJ' post='348584' date='Dec 8 2008, 01:36 PM']I know that that is what the numbers say, but to my ears, a deeper cabinet will always have more roundness to the tone.[/quote] If a cab has insufficient internal damping (which unfortunately is the case all too often!) then a deeper cab may have a better midrange response due to the backwave reflections being more attenuated. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinman Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 [quote name='ben_eat_pie' post='344536' date='Dec 3 2008, 06:42 PM']Could anybody inform me as to what the difference is, and why the manufacturers arn't mimicking the DIY market.[/quote] I think Bill Fitzmaurice put it dwn to a number of factors including (and I apologize if I'm misrepresenting here): 1. Commercial builders are driven by marketing needs which often means building muscular-looking cabs with lots of visible drivers (often in too small an enclosure) - i.e. form over function. 2. More complex designs which may offer greater efficiency and better response such as horn-loaded designs are far more complex to manufacture cheaply than a direct radiator design, i.e. a square box with holes in the front for the drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I agree, particularly with Point 1. "Perception is reality"... Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_eat_pie Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 BFM all the way then! I'll get some monies together, I've got the tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 [quote name='ben_eat_pie' post='344536' date='Dec 3 2008, 07:42 PM']....Hello there, I am confused;....[/quote] You sound confused. I think you should do a lot more homework on this subject! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clauster Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 [quote]I'll get some monies together, I've got the tools[/quote] You'll need to factor in some time too.... I've had a collection of ply, drivers, tweeters, wire and hardware all ready to be turned into an Omni10 for almost 8 months now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 [quote name='clauster' post='450659' date='Mar 31 2009, 04:38 PM']You'll need to factor in some time too.... I've had a collection of ply, drivers, tweeters, wire and hardware all ready to be turned into an Omni10 for almost 8 months now [/quote] Only 8 months? Plenty of time yet! Took me a good couple of years to get round to this: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44673&hl="]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44673&hl=[/url] from getting the maple to even [u]starting[/u] to dismantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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