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Crawford13

Moog regret?

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[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1498816788' post='3327225']
I bought a Novation K-Station recently and it's brilliant. Big phat pharty sounds and 70s-soundalike synthy goodness. And programmable memories. I still regret selling my old Roland SH-09 back in the day, but practically speaking the K is the superior instrument in every way.
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...not to mention the polyphony! I've had a K-Station for a few years and it is indeed a lovely thing. Still tempted by the new Novation Peak though....maybe one day I'll trade up, but I'm in no hurry :)

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[quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1499799441' post='3333727']


...not to mention the polyphony! I've had a K-Station for a few years and it is indeed a lovely thing. Still tempted by the new Novation Peak though....maybe one day I'll trade up, but I'm in no hurry :)
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Ooh the peak looks amazing. Too much dough for me to be spending though, and if I did have that kind of cash to spare I'd probably go for something like a Roland JD-XA since it at least has a keyboard attached!

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[quote name='BassAgent' timestamp='1498582352' post='3325690']
I can see your point, which is one of the main reasons I went for the Sub Phatty and not for e.g. the Minitaur. The Minitaur has presets but you can't see which one you're using. But I've fiddled with both the Voyager and the Model D, and I find the knob layout of the Model D way easier to understand.
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I've got a Minitaur; it is a little bit one-dimensional and is limited to the lower octaves, but what it does is great.

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I've come into ownership of a Moog Rogue by default. One of my bandmates was giving it to our producer as a freebie, and I borrowed it for a while. Producer now doesn't want it, so I now have a Rogue. Quite a fun little thing to use, so no regrets here!

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[quote name='fftc' timestamp='1498766076' post='3326973']
If anyone was thinking of a Model D best get one now.

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Not sure if my memory is correct here.... Sometime in the mid 80's I picked up a couple of keyboard magazines (they had interviews with Keith Emerson in). It seems everyone wanted a DX7 and was re-mortgaging, or something to get one.
And whoever took over Moog at the time was selling off Model D's, for a couple of hundred dollars. Nobody wanted them.

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[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1504787478' post='3367304']
Not sure if my memory is correct here.... Sometime in the mid 80's I picked up a couple of keyboard magazines (they had interviews with Keith Emerson in). It seems everyone wanted a DX7 and was re-mortgaging, or something to get one.
And whoever took over Moog at the time was selling off Model D's, for a couple of hundred dollars. Nobody wanted them.
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I can well imagine that. When FM and digital was new and hot that's what everyone wanted. Old analogue subtractive stuff was yesterdays news. Now analogue is the cool kid again the old ones cost a packet. That's why it made sense for Moog to re-issue the D. Cash in on the retro money. They might well be worthless again in 15 years but anyone who buys musical instruments as investments is missing the point IMHO.

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[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1504787478' post='3367304']
Not sure if my memory is correct here.... Sometime in the mid 80's I picked up a couple of keyboard magazines (they had interviews with Keith Emerson in). It seems everyone wanted a DX7 and was re-mortgaging, or something to get one.
And whoever took over Moog at the time was selling off Model D's, for a couple of hundred dollars. Nobody wanted them.
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You shouldn't have needed to re-motgage anything. The DX7 when it came out might still have cost about £1200, but it was stupidly cheap compared with all the other decent polyphonic synths of the time, and much better specified than any of them. 16 voice polyphony, aftertouch, breath control, 32 user memories, expandable with plug-in cartridges, and a decent feeling keyboard.

The problem with the Mini Moog wasn't that it was old hat or that analogue subtractive synths were considered out of date, but it was monophonic and didn't have patch memories. As a synth player at the time when the DX7 first came out (one of the other members of my band had one of the first DX7s in the UK) these were the things we wanted most of all. If someone could have made a polyphonic Mini Moog with programmable memories for the same price as a DX7 we would have been just as happy.

IMO in those days if a synth had a sound, it was down to missing features - only one VCO and/or envelope generator per voice. The DX7 had features in abundance. Unfortunately the unfamiliar synthesis method and user-unfriendly parameter access made it tricky for everyone to program. We got some great analogue style sounds out of ours, but it took much longer to get anything compared with our analogue synths.

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MiniMoogs were never a couple of hundred quid at any point.
When the DX7 came out, I was crazy on synths. I was looking at getting a Moog Rogue or a Opus 3 roughly about 85-86 & they were both over £300.

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I bought a Moog Rogue secondhand in1986 from Dawson’s Music in Burnley for £150 - we also bought a Korg CX organ from Chase in Manchester for £250. The much gigged, sampled and recorded Moog broke down in 2010 and I sold it for spares for £350, the Korg is still going strong though we use a Nord now. I’m still looking for a replacement Rogue but the Subphatty has a similar richness to it though the smaller keyboard lets it down. I also bought two Korg Micropresets for £30 each from Dawson’s in 1986, not quite as cool as the Rogue but still useful little synths. Everyone wanted a DX7 in the 80s but we were skint and had to go with cheaper synths and analogue was what we could afford. The only dud we had was a Korg Delta poly synth that was totally unreliable and half way through gigs would generally pack up and sound like a load of car horns!

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