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Bass VI intonation issues


RockfordStone
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Hi guys

i own one of these and have done for a year, but im really starting to find that at times it's unplayable.

no matter how many times i spend setting it up i end up with fret buzz and bad intonation on the low E (6th string).

having researched more im hearing that this is a common issue related to the bridge and there has been some suggestion that shimming and flipping the bridge solves the issue.

Has anyone else encountered any problems with their bass VI and it's intonation? if so how did you fix it.

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In my experience, you'll need to do (at least some of) the following:

1 New strings - La Bella or Kalium. The 84 E string is never going to work properly for intonation or tone; you need to get into the 90s or even 100s for the E string. ESSENTIAL

2 Get a locking tremolo - the standard Fender Jaguar one fits. NOT ESSENTIAL

3 Replace the bridge - there are other possibilities but my preference is the Staytrem bridge, turning the bridge around helps but not enough , in my view. PROBABLY ESSENTIAL

4 Shim the neck - it took me three goes at shimming before I got the correct bridge height and break angle - the bottom of the bridge needs to stand roughy 1/4 inch above the thimbles and this will not happen without a typical 1950/60s Leo Fender neck shim. For the shim use ordinary business card; there are instructions on how to do it here on BC if you search (as well as on Youtube). ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.

5 Set the neck relief, action, intonation in the normal way. ESSENTIAL

6 Remember this is a 1960s design (based on a 1950s design) for fast mass production; its engineering precision (pun intended) is not up to modern standards but that doesn't mean that it can't be made to work. ESSENTIAL

Here's mine ...

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[quote name='howdenspur' timestamp='1441407817' post='2858772']
Hi
If you don't get an answer here and if you do Facebook, it would be worth checking the Bass VI group there. A lot of knowledge and experienced owners.
Rod
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Also, [url="http://offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=71490"]http://offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=71490[/url]

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i have shimmed the neck and flipped the bridge which has made the world off difference. i am going to restring it with a single .095 string at the bottom E.

if this doesn't work for me i will just set it back to normal and sell it. i don't use it enough to be spending money on new trems and bridges.

thanks for the responses tho :)

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If you order the individual strings direct from LaBella then it doesn't work out expensive either.
On their website you can build your own set or just order the invidual gauges of a pre packaged set, it works out cheaper than buying the set.
I've bought heavier gauge rounds and they were less than twenty quid including postage from America.

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[quote name='CH161' timestamp='1441841857' post='2862328']
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Get the right strings on this VI for a start.

I have a 1965 with the right - heavy - strings. La Bella's.

It can be set up like a normal guitar with no issues.
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i had originally tired a set of specific strings for it from d'addario and found the e string to be the issue.

in the end i put a new set of d'addario's on with a seperate string for the low E. this with a shim and flipping the bridge has made a massive difference to both intonation and playability.

i have gone from wanting to sell it to enjoying playing it now.

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[quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1442077997' post='2864301']
i had originally tired a set of specific strings for it from d'addario and found the e string to be the issue.

in the end i put a new set of d'addario's on with a seperate string for the low E. this with a shim and flipping the bridge has made a massive difference to both intonation and playability.

i have gone from wanting to sell it to enjoying playing it now.
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Great news!

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