discreet Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) As far as I can make out, 60s custom colours had white (or parchment or mint) and tort guards. Apart from the single-ply black guard that was used from 51-56, there were no black guards until the slab bass of 66, then it reappeared sporadically from around 74 and was standard by 76. So the black guard is a 70s thing. But knowing Fender I'm sure it's quite possible they had one on a 69... it would have been one of the very first, though. I am of course ready to be corrected on this. Edited August 16, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 [quote name='KK Jale' timestamp='1439729434' post='2845247'] I can't comment on the green/black thing, but is a black scratchplate likely to be original on ANY '69 Precision? On a natural finish, maybe? Not casting aspersions, just interested to find out. [/quote] [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1439731169' post='2845269'] Dunno, any 60s Precision gurus on here? The website description does mention a new tone pot and pickup. [/quote] [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1439734325' post='2845292'] I don't know when black pickguards first became available but I belive 1960s custom colours commonly had white pickguards. [/quote] Black guards were phased in by 1975. It's hard to see in the picture, but the thumbrest screws may be above the E string, either way in 69 they should be below the G string. That ain't the original guard. I'd be very surprised if that finish was original, 69's I've seen have white undercoats and that colour doesn't look like a Fender colour anyway, even a lacquer aged one. The weight seems correct for that era though, that's good. I'm no expert, just going by what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1439736339' post='2845317'] Black guards were phased in by 1975. It's hard to see in the picture, but the thumbrest screws may be above the E string, either way in 69 they should be below the G string. That ain't the original guard. [/quote] You have better eyesight than me, I can't see any thumbrest screws! But you're right, if the thumbrest is on the bass side it's 73 and after, which I believe is the year the thumbrest (or tugbar), was moved from the treble side. Edited August 16, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1439736508' post='2845318'] You have better eyesight than me, I can't see any thumbrest screws! But you're right, if the thumbrest is on the bass side it's 73 and after, which I believe is the year when the thumbrest (or tugbar as was), moved from the treble side. [/quote]w iPad zoom in, saves my tired eyes many a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 [quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1439736339' post='2845317'] ... It's hard to see in the picture, but the thumbrest screws may be above the E string, either way in 69 they should be below the G string. That ain't the original guard. [/quote] Well spotted, the thumbrest screw holes are clearly above the E string on my screen. Whatever else it is, that is an unlikely 1969 pickguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1439723313' post='2845194'] Is it Spinachglo? [/quote] I think that is the Rickenbacker version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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