billrasic Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Ive had this amp for a while and have been told its an old prototype. Can anyone help me find out more about it? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Have you tried the Trace website? [url="http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/support_3.php?flag=GB&lan=UK"]http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/support_3.ph...g=GB&lan=UK[/url] its listed under discontinued products in the 7-band range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 [quote name='Delberthot' post='265048' date='Aug 18 2008, 11:01 PM']Have you tried the Trace website? [url="http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/support_3.php?flag=GB&lan=UK"]http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/support_3.ph...g=GB&lan=UK[/url] its listed under discontinued products in the 7-band range.[/quote] thanks. i have looked on there but i cant get the page to open. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 [url="http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/pop_product.php?&flag=GB&lan=UK&obs=Y&key=2230"]Owners Manual- Click Here[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 [quote name='JimH' post='265315' date='Aug 19 2008, 11:04 AM'][url="http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk/pop_product.php?&flag=GB&lan=UK&obs=Y&key=2230"]Owners Manual- Click Here[/url][/quote] i tryed that and cannot get it to open on any pc. thanks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 [quote name='billrasic' post='267835' date='Aug 22 2008, 01:33 PM']i tryed that and cannot get it to open on any pc. thanks anyway[/quote] Same here. Is it a stereo 600W per channel power amp? Bet it sounds hoooooooooooooooooooge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 [quote name='Merton' post='267840' date='Aug 22 2008, 01:36 PM']Same here. Is it a stereo 600W per channel power amp? Bet it sounds hoooooooooooooooooooge![/quote] its not stero, and yes it sounds huge! expesh through hartke cabs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 One of my old brochures lists an AH1200SM Preamp as GP7SM Output stage :2-channel solid state Power output: 600 + 600 watts RMS Output impedance: 2-ohms Looks like it could use the PPA1200 power stage although the PPA on it's own is heavier than the AH1200SM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Huzzah! OBBM is the dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayfan Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Is this the amp? F**kadoodle-do - look at the size of it.... I think I'm heading off to the porn section to start a thread on Trace Elliot. Anyone coming (so to speak...) ? Edited August 22, 2008 by stingrayfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) [quote name='stingrayfan' post='267923' date='Aug 22 2008, 03:32 PM']Is this the amp? F**kadoodle-do - look at the size of it.... I think I'm heading off to the porn section to start a thread on Trace Elliot. Anyone coming (so to speak...) ?[/quote] I'll come over with my TE porn, yes. Sadly, tho, that ain't the head, that's from ~1999 and it's the AH1000-12 rather than an AH1200SM. But I reckon it would be a similar size! Edited August 22, 2008 by Merton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) [quote name='obbm' post='267910' date='Aug 22 2008, 03:16 PM']One of my old brochures lists an AH1200SM Preamp as GP7SM Output stage :2-channel solid state Power output: 600 + 600 watts RMS Output impedance: 2-ohms Looks like it could use the PPA1200 power stage although the PPA on it's own is heavier than the AH1200SM[/quote] thanks. im not to up on my electronics whats a PPA1200 power stage? and it is a very heavy amp. is there any way you could send me a copy of the page from the brochure? i was told that it was a prototype made for Doug Wimbish. I dont know if that is true though. cheers Edited August 22, 2008 by billrasic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 [quote name='Merton' post='267925' date='Aug 22 2008, 03:34 PM']I'll come over with my TE porn, yes. Sadly, tho, that ain't the head, that's from ~1999 and it's the AH1000-12 rather than an AH1200SM. But I reckon it would be a similar size![/quote] i will try and post sum pics of mine up on here. mines got a 7band eq. but i does look similar. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 PPA1200 is a power amp model that Trace made in the early 1990s - 2x 600W power amps. That's where I got my suspicion that your amp would be the same power stages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 [quote name='Merton' post='267942' date='Aug 22 2008, 04:08 PM']PPA1200 is a power amp model that Trace made in the early 1990s - 2x 600W power amps. That's where I got my suspicion that your amp would be the same power stages [/quote] cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 [quote name='billrasic' post='267835' date='Aug 22 2008, 01:33 PM']i tryed that and cannot get it to open on any pc. thanks anyway[/quote] Install this :- [url="http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html"]Adobe Acrobat Reader[/url] Then try again - works fine for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 [quote name='JimH' post='268360' date='Aug 23 2008, 10:45 AM']Install this :- [url="http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html"]Adobe Acrobat Reader[/url] Then try again - works fine for me![/quote] it just wont open for me. ive tryed everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbass Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Most of what I (think I) know has already been said, but the trace range at that time consisted of either the SM or SMX preamp on top of various sized poweramps. The SM range is the 7-band EQ, and the SMX range was 12 band, with greater connectivity/compressor functions Linking this to Doug Wimbish, he was certainly using the SMX at the time (according to the promo/endorsement shots I remember). The 1200 in the amps name refers to the powerstage, which would be 2x 600w, or 1200w bridged. I think the others in the range were the 300, 400, and 600. The 1200 powerstage could drive an elephant and the 'popular' arrangment of cabs was 2 x 1x15" with 2 x 4x10 w/horn. Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrasic Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 [quote name='coasterbass' post='270411' date='Aug 26 2008, 05:00 PM']Most of what I (think I) know has already been said, but the trace range at that time consisted of either the SM or SMX preamp on top of various sized poweramps. The SM range is the 7-band EQ, and the SMX range was 12 band, with greater connectivity/compressor functions Linking this to Doug Wimbish, he was certainly using the SMX at the time (according to the promo/endorsement shots I remember). The 1200 in the amps name refers to the powerstage, which would be 2x 600w, or 1200w bridged. I think the others in the range were the 300, 400, and 600. The 1200 powerstage could drive an elephant and the 'popular' arrangment of cabs was 2 x 1x15" with 2 x 4x10 w/horn. Awesome.[/quote] cheers. i didnt know it was goin to this hard tryin to find info on it. i managed to get the owners manul to down load but it does not mention my amp! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geilerbass Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I've had a similar problem with my AH350SMX. It's definitely the SMX 12 band pre-amp and clearly has a 350W power stage, but I can't find any information specific to it. There's the manual covering the AH300SMX and AH400SMX, but nothing on the 350. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuseMatt Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I have a similar amp The number on my amp is 150, which is good for 300 watt. Even this 'little' bro in the series has balls, I run it through an ashdown mag400 and I never have to turn it above 11 o'clock (both gain/outpout). I don't see these amps a lot, so it might be a very small series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbass Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 [quote name='geilerbass' post='270814' date='Aug 27 2008, 10:25 AM']I've had a similar problem with my AH350SMX. It's definitely the SMX 12 band pre-amp and clearly has a 350W power stage, but I can't find any information specific to it. There's the manual covering the AH300SMX and AH400SMX, but nothing on the 350. Weird.[/quote] I could be mistaken, but I think the original amps were the 250 and 350, which were then 'enhanced' up to the round numbers of 300 / 400 (in terms of the powerstage). It surprises me that there is trouble getting info on these amps... they really were the (classy) bread and butter amps of the 90s. You couldn't go to a gig/studio and not see green somewhere. If there aren't many for sale then its probably because they are class and people hang on to them. IMO both SM and SMX series of amps were the last great amps that Trace made. The V series was awesome, but the SM(X) were just so versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuseMatt Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I'm not sure about that. However my amp does say 150 watts (300 watt RMS). That might be what could cause some confusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 [quote name='MuseMatt' post='270885' date='Aug 27 2008, 11:53 AM']I'm not sure about that. However my amp does say 150 watts (300 watt RMS). That might be what could cause some confusion?[/quote] Are you sure it doesn't say [i]150W RMS (300W peak)[/i]? Seems more likely knowing Trace and their numbering systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuseMatt Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 hehe my bad... it's at practice room so couldn't check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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