ambient Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'm doing a lot of transcribing at the moment. One of the ones I'm doing is Jimmy Haslip's solo on the Allen Holdsworth song 'the fifth'. It's a live version from the 'blues for Tony' album. Here's the start of the solo - [url="https://soundcloud.com/ambientbassist/02-the-fifth-copy"]https://soundcloud.com/ambientbassist/02-the-fifth-copy[/url] I've slowed it down using transcribe, what's going on with the first note ? It sounds odd at normal speed, but here slowed down it's as if he's trilling between another note at a ridiculous speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Do you have a link to the normal speed version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I have the album, and I just put The Fifth into iRehearse and slowed it to 50%. I can't hear anything like your soundcloud link, the notes are single hits, so I reckon it's your Transcribe software glitching. It would be bordering on superhuman ability to tremelo that fast, even the fastest Flamencos wouldn't be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sounds like a flamenco strum of a single note to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1390211557' post='2342538'] Sounds like a flamenco strum of a single note to me. [/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1390202479' post='2342460'] I have the album, and I just put The Fifth into iRehearse and slowed it to 50%. I can't hear anything like your soundcloud link, the notes are single hits, so I reckon it's your Transcribe software glitching. It would be bordering on superhuman ability to tremelo that fast, even the fastest Flamencos wouldn't be able to. [/quote] It does sounds like one of those [font=courier new,courier,monospace][glitch(ˈɡlɪtʃ)|minimal][/font] albums I listen to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1390211557' post='2342538'] Sounds like a flamenco strum of a single note to me. [/quote] It doesn't sound like a rasgueado or a flamenco tremolo, but I know why you think it does. Sounds like PacMan doing one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sounds like a software glitch to me. I can't hear it on the version that's on Spotify: [url="http://open.spotify.com/track/6IdlWqJPAayg7ZLGYO95kD"]Allan Holdsworth – The Fifth[/url] - about 2m50s is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Here's the normal speed version. [url="https://soundcloud.com/ambientbassist/02-the-fifth-copy-1"]https://soundcloud.com/ambientbassist/02-the-fifth-copy-1[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 It ain't this, or this.. it's your software. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB1O5AedquY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySJELgC5_LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1390234207' post='2342919'] Here's the normal speed version. [url="https://soundcloud.com/ambientbassist/02-the-fifth-copy-1"]https://soundcloud.c...he-fifth-copy-1[/url] [/quote] Good grief ! Why do you need to slow that down by 50% ? [size=4] [/size] [size=4] [/size][size=4]Only kidding, it does start to get a bit hairy later. [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1390239752' post='2343022'] Good grief ! Why do you need to slow that down by 50% ? Only kidding, it does start to get a bit hairy later. [/quote] I was trying to work out what was going on at the 3rd bar of the solo that's not actually in the bit I put on sound cloud. But that first part is quite noticeable at 100% speed, I was intrigued at what he was actually doing. It's not just one note. Edited January 20, 2014 by ambient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 To me that first note (at normal speed) sounds like one heavy 'dug in' note against the fret on a very low action, not Flamenco style or trill. The slowed down version really just sounds like software related. Some do extreme tempo manipulation better than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1390243695' post='2343104'] I was trying to work out what was going on at the 3rd bar of the solo that's not actually in the bit I put on sound cloud. But that first part is quite noticeable at 100% speed, I was intrigued at what he was actually doing. It's not just one note. [/quote] Trust me, it's NOTHING like what your 50% recording is. It's not that stuttery sound that came from your glitchy software. Try slowing it in iRehearse or similar. I slowed it 50% and it sounds like what lowdown suggests, at 25% it sounds like he's hitting it with two fingers together so he gets a fast slapback echo effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1390243695' post='2343104'] It's not just one note. [/quote] Sounds like it to me - one dug in note, slightly muted somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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