ash Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Hmmmm....... Shall we tell them? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271361741287?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Edited January 3, 2014 by ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I've messaged him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Good man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 How did you guys knew? I know nothing about vintage Hofners but I'm just curious . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) I have a Hofner '62 and this is nothing like it - Hofner Violin basses are actually very well made and have quite refined features - wave headstock shape, smaller decal, small guitar tuners, two knob control panel with three sliders, etc. they are handmade basses - at leat the German ones are. This looks like a Shine copy with a fake decal. I'll post a pic of mine for comparison sake Steff. Edited September 18, 2014 by ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Great thanks mate. Funny as this one looks genuinely old but I now recall all the Hofners I've seen have two knobs with 3 sliders indeed... A vintage copy perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 [quote name='Steff' timestamp='1388780538' post='2326074'] Great thanks mate. Funny as this one looks genuinely old but I now recall all the Hofners I've seen have two knobs with 3 sliders indeed... A vintage copy perhaps? [/quote] Looking closely it doesn't look very old to me - perhaps it's just the design, after the Fender basses the Hofner is surprisingly one of the most copied bass guitars and there certainly were many copies manufactured in the 60s and 70s from the Far East. There were also European versions from brands like Klira and Eko but there's something about the pickups and hardware that makes me think more recent Korean manufacture - Shine, Epiphone, etc. Have a look here - http://www.fuenfhunderteins.de/index1.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) With the flame maple and the round headstock, I'm wondering if it's a Shine Hofner copy. But on looking close, the headstock has an even bigger round bit at the end. [url="http://images5.thomann.de/pics/prod/177012.jpg"]http://images5.thoma...prod/177012.jpg[/url] (Picture is of a Harley Benton, but I can't find a good picture of the Shine and I think it's identical to the HB). That very round headstock on the ebay one is typical of no-brand Chinese made basses. Edited January 3, 2014 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Rotten Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The bit that made me laugh was the 'knobs slightly melted' bit. Talk about 'hot' pickups if they can melt your knobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 [quote name='Jonnyboy Rotten' timestamp='1388787454' post='2326185'] Talk about 'hot' pickups if they can melt your knobs! [/quote] Or maybe it's the flame top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 They don't seem to have taken any action, the listing is still live with the same description... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Then this would be time to report it..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) [quote name='ash' timestamp='1388780245' post='2326069'] I have a Hofner '62 and this is nothing like it - Hofner Violin basses are actually very well made and have quite refined features - wave headstock shape, smaller decal, small guitar tuners, two knob control panel with three sliders, etc. they are handmade basses - at leat the German ones are. This looks like a Shine copy with a fake decal. I'll post a pic of mine for comparison sake Steff. [/quote] All of that, plus the tailpiece is different too. It does look a lot like one of the Shine or Harley Benton copies. Certainly not a genuine Hofner. Edited January 5, 2014 by simon1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hand of john curley Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Listing has ended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's back, and while it still says Hofner all over the place, the description does say that this isn't a real Hofner bass. Though, the seller tells us that 'it would fool anyone'. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Bass-Guitar-Violin-Hofner-Beatles-Sunburst-/121248890132?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c3aff3d14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hand of john curley Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 So....are we to think he really didn't know what it was?......or was he trying to pull a full on sh1tbag manoeuvre ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 [quote name='the hand of john curley' timestamp='1388962076' post='2328275'] So....are we to think he really didn't know what it was?......or was he trying to pull a full on sh1tbag manoeuvre ? [/quote] Many people simply see a recognisable name on something and take it as being legit. People are commonly duped - buyers and sellers - by fake goods with authentic looking logos. Old Hofners go for decent sums of money even in these lean times so the seller may not want to believe their instrument is fake....however I see it's ended again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) In another one of his/her listings, he's selling a 'Fender' guitar for £45. It's a Sunn Mustang. This appears to be one of the later ones, not the early ones which are more desirable. Like the 'Hofner' s/he seems to want to emphasise the word Fender' in the listing title, and the unwary could be fooled if they don't look/research properly. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Sunn-Mustang-Electric-Stratocaster-Guitar-/121248408662?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c3af7e456"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c3af7e456[/url] Looking at the kind of thing she/he is selling, they suggest to me someone who should know what they are doing. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Guitars-/3858/m.html?item=121248890132&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c3aff3d14&_ssn=tantrumjohn&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc Edited January 6, 2014 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hand of john curley Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1388984805' post='2328410'] In another one of his/her listings, he's selling a 'Fender' guitar for £45. It's a Sunn Mustang. This appears to be one of the later ones, not the early ones which are more desirable. Like the 'Hofner' s/he seems to want to emphasise the word Fender' in the listing title, and the unwary could be fooled if they don't look/research properly. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Sunn-Mustang-Electric-Stratocaster-Guitar-/121248408662?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c3af7e456"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c3af7e456[/url] Looking at the kind of thing she/he is selling, they suggest to me someone who should know what they are doing. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Guitars-/3858/m.html?item=121248890132&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c3aff3d14&_ssn=tantrumjohn&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc [/quote] 😳😳 Edited January 6, 2014 by the hand of john curley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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