Left Foot Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Hi guys, When playing long sustained notes i get some crackle/noise that appears when the note finishes or when played too strongly, so im presuming this is noise, as its unwanted sound. Would a noise gate solve this completely without cutiing out anything else? Looking at wiki it days that gates attenuate selected levels of sound, where as this sound appears at both low and high levels. Would a gate work or have i just got a noisy signal that is unlovable? Cheers guys. Edited March 11, 2013 by Left Foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yes, you are right in that noise gates close (reducing a sounds volume) only beneath a set level, and are otherwise open (letting through the sound). If you are familiar with compressors, think of sound gates as the opposite of them. It might help us help you if you could tell us what pedals/effects are you running at the moment? and how are you powering them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Left Foot' timestamp='1363031649' post='2007381'] Would a noise gate solve this completely without cutiing out anything else? [/quote] Noise gates don't always work like that - it depends on the noise gate you have. A noise gate at it's most basic is an "open" / "closed" device - if the signal coming through is too quiet, the gate is "closed" and no sound comes through. When the sound becomes loud enough, the gate is made "open" and the sound can come through. Most of the time a gate is set so that when you are playing the instrument the gate is open and when you aren't playing the residual hum and interference is too quiet to be let through and the gate shuts. Some of the more advanced gates can act particularly on hiss but not all gates are alike. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Imfl73DX0o[/media] Edited March 11, 2013 by RandomProddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 [quote name='Left Foot' timestamp='1363031649' post='2007381'] Hi guys, When playing long sustained notes i get some crackle/noise that appears when the note finishes or when played too strongly, so im presuming this is noise, as its unwanted sound. Would a noise gate solve this completely without cutiing out anything else? Looking at wiki it days that gates attenuate selected levels of sound, where as this sound appears at both low and high levels. Would a gate work or have i just got a noisy signal that is unlovable? Cheers guys. [/quote] You're overdriving you're amp and something is bias'd incorrectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Noise gates: the second best choice after getting an amp that works properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Foot Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Ah, ok, cheers guys for info and advice. The noise changes charcter (goes from crackle to fizz (nice fizz)) and is minimal depending on the amp I run it through. 40w practice rocktec, terrible, ashdown cab much better. SovBM is really noisey. Will look into bias. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquipment Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Like with any high gain setup, it will almost always scream like a raep alarm Noise gate solves much of it. I use a boss NF1, really simple and effective. Tried a noise suppressor NS2.. That was kinda crap. The noise was still there, it just made it quieter. The noise gate just cuts it off dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I thought the NS2 was a gate? that's what I use, and mainly 'cos I use high gain distortion from pedals, which feedback a lot without a gate 'cos I like to play loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquipment Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yeah.. Sort of. It's more complex than the NF1 unless my NS2 was shagged I dunno ! The NF1 just cuts the signal off as soon as the note falls below the set threshold... The NS2 kinda just made it quieter rather than chopping it off ... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I think it depends on how you set it, mine does cut the signal completely in between notes if I want it to, but I generally don't, I just want to avoid feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwood1985 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Just got an isp Decimator back in my life after stupidly selling the last one. Highly reccomend! No tone issues and, if set at te right threshold you will NEVER notic the gate's action: you would forget the pedals there if it wasn't a sexy all chrome box on your board! Can get them second hand for as little as £60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 i had tons of feedback from my distortion pedals that i couldnt get rid of, i had an ISP decimator ages ago and i dont remember it getting rid of all of it, just lowering it, tried another one but its stopped working now. went on tour with a mates band and tried their boss NS2, totally killed all feedback from their basses when they had it at the end of their chain, tried it with my stuff and it was still there...just quieter then tried my gain pedals in the loop of the NS2 and SILENCE, i love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 You Using an ns-2 now then ant? I'm looking the mxr smart gate at the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I've always used my dirt and comp pedals in the loop of the NS-2 with delays after it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1363875180' post='2018737'] You Using an ns-2 now then ant? I'm looking the mxr smart gate at the minute. [/quote] yeah! as soon as i got back from that tour i got myself an NS-2 and i've never looked back edit: it means i can finally get some staccato stuff back into my high gain playing, sometimes i might rub a string and it opens the gate and it just feeds back loads without closing it, but ill just quickly turn the dist off and on again and its back to pure silence Edited March 21, 2013 by Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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