Gazm Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Been using mine for a couple of weeks & I think it is awesome, it has totally changed my opinion of the company. Just hope I feel the same way in the next few months/years etc. http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/X32.aspx Anyone else using this desk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 It is as you say, an awesome desk. Not using it myself although did look at it when considering my next desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismanbass Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 worth the 2 grand asking price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Defo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan_da_man Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Never thought the words 'Behringer' and 'Two grand' would be heard in the same sentence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Saving as we type. It's definitely a working desk. I used one at a Romanian festival last autumn as a monitor desk and it was superb. Quick to get around, sends on faders for easy access, good EQ. The band are analogue heads and usually gripe about digi desks but nobody said zip at this event. They just updated the ipad app to access all EQs gains, scenes routing and released an iPhone app that can access an individual aux mix... Def worth the cash, but I think the S16 cat 5 input boxes are expensive at £700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Expensive... But cheaper than the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismanbass Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 definately take it into consideration when i'm upgrading the function bands gear next time (said function band is a 12pc) so 32 channels is not as ludicrous as it sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Behringer do loads of good stuff. Quality control isn't the best out there, but if you get a naff one just get it replaced. If you get a GOOD one it will last just as long as any other bit of kit. The only behringer gear I've ever hated is their bass cabs or combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 They do their fair share of tatt too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1358463137' post='1939896'] They do their fair share of tatt too. [/quote] Indeed but according to Mr Behringer things are a changing: http://soundforums.net/varsity/4299-uli-behringer-music-group-q-3.html#post29337 So first our gig is this Saturday with the X32, can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Dont get me wrong, there are products by every manufacturer that could be sometimes described as a bit iffy but this x32 really is sublime. I was very very impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 This may seem like an odd question but how do the faders feel on it? I hate light faders on mixers, the nicest "feeling" desk I've had the pleasure to use was a mackie onyx (1640 I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) [quote name='charic' timestamp='1358769560' post='1944567'] This may seem like an odd question but how do the faders feel on it? I hate light faders on mixers, the nicest "feeling" desk I've had the pleasure to use was a mackie onyx (1640 I think) [/quote] They feel as you would expect from a motorised fader desk at this price point - they are OK but in no means the best. Edited January 21, 2013 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sanborn Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Hi Guys,[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]If I can answer any questions in regards to the X32 or related products, hit me with a PM. Much has changed with the MUSIC Group and we hope we can earn your business by directly addressing your concerns. We have also been very happy to include our end-users and always listen to how we can improve our growing X32 line to include the features most requested with rapid firmware upgrades when possible.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]We are very proud of the X32 family of products:[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]- The X32 has become the quickest selling console in history having sold 22,000 consoles in its' first 5 months. It is currently the number one seller worldwide.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]- This article from SOS was very thorough, as well as a separate article which checked all documented specifications:[/font][/color] [url="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug12/articles/behringer-x32.htm"]http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug1...ringer-x32.htm[/url] [url="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug12/articles/behringer-x32-test-results.htm"]http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug1...st-results.htm[/url] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]This is a link to a listening test, which was performed with a group of independent engineers. The test involved an X32, StudioLive and LS9. The X32 was chosen by a majority as best sounding console:[/font][/color] [url="http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,139676.0.html"]http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index....,139676.0.html[/url] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]We have made huge strides in our service. Our Las Vegas Care facility is truly state of the art and second to none, housing BEHRINGER, Midas and Klark Teknik. We have dedicated X32 specialists who can be reached directly to help with questions and system applications.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]We have invested 20 million dollars in new manufacturing technology including automated machines capable of 14 layer PCB boards and the largest single purchase of Audio Precision audio test equipment, all of which have significantly increased our quality and resulted in products such as the X32. This investment to manufacture to MIDAS quality standards has allowed us to increase our warranty from 1-year to 3-years on all BEHRINGER products from the X32 down to a DI box.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Best[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Joe Sanborn[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Manager, Channel Marketing[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]MUSIC Group[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]BEHRINGER[/font][/color] Edited January 23, 2013 by Joe Sanborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Nowhere near the same league (or price) but I bought one of their xenyx range of mixers for a band I was in 6 or 7 years ago and never had a problem with it. I still have it in storage just in case it is ever needed, thought it was great value for money. Along with the mixer I've had a bass amp head and a couple of pedals from Behringer and never had issues with any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 [quote name='Joe Sanborn' timestamp='1358941602' post='1947293'] [color=#000000]This investment to manufacture to MIDAS quality standards has allowed us to increase our warranty from 1-year to 3-years on all BEHRINGER products from the X32 down to a DI box.[/color] [/quote] This line alone fills me with more hope than the rest. Also, welcome to Basschat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Excellent to see Joe on here. The sales figures are impressive - but it's easy to see why when you audition the desk. The only desk for the money that comes close is the Presonus - but to be honest, the feature set of the X32 simply blows the Presonus back out of the water. Presonus really needed a 32 channel desk that would support firewire recording. It's still not here. It may not ever come. Even if it does, it's too late, the train has left the station. I would be very concerned if I was Presonus - I know from the activity on their forum that they have been "cleansing" the forum of any glowing references to the X32. Speaks volumes by itself. It's interesting to see the X32 compared against the LS9, it's impressive that they are mentioned in the same breath as I would have thought the GLD80 would be the LS9s main competitor. To have the X32 snapping at the LS9 must be making Behringer very happy. Very happy indeed. That's both the semi-pro and pro market in their radar. Even A&H should be concerned about the X32 and how it stacks against their GLD80 - they really need to get their iPad app out very quickly I think! I wonder if Joe could be more specific about the Midas involvement? I know that Midas are effectively owned by Behringer now - but spouting the Midas name without clarification as to what their involvement is, to me at least, name dropping without substance. What does manufacturing to Midas standards actually mean?... because at the end of the day, we're talking PCBs here. As you can appreciate, for example, using a Midas pre (as found in their desks) would be a big selling point... but that is different to say a Midas designed pre. What does that really mean? Is that a Midas pre designed to be the most cost effective as opposed to being the best sounding? Is that using components that aren't necessarily the best but are used to keep the price down to keep the X32 attractive to buyers? Edited January 23, 2013 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 To me it read as if they've "adopted" the same manufacturing techniques/standards to improve quality (in the form of robustness) and reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1358950820' post='1947492'] To me it read as if they've "adopted" the same manufacturing techniques/standards to improve quality (in the form of robustness) and reliability. [/quote] This is the point. When people think Midas, I would wager that they think audio excellence, not manufacturing excellence (although that is a given with Midas anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Maybe it's just because I work in a manufacturing technology company then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Well,well,well... Namm brings us a 32ch Presonus... A gld80 ipad app and awesome personal monitoring system... A new soundcraft si with cheaper stage boxes... Looks like the competition has bitten back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The x32 doesnt have Midas pres in it, thats for definite, according to all the threads I've seen, and so on. It looks like a really really impressive bit of kit, I'd love to see one in action with the break out boxes too (which by definition are going to be exoensive, they ahve DAs in them for all the channels they break out to as far as I can tell). If it can handle the punishment it is going to get it will be a game changer I think. Of course the FOH will be even more dependant on the skills of the engineer in question - with that much per channel processing going on it will be that much easier for Captain FOH to balls up the mix totally..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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