discreet Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 'I hate the Beatles'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1317399874' post='1390427'] 'I hate the Beatles'. [/quote] See, I told you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1317399059' post='1390413'] Oh no - that sounds nothing like a Hofner (to my ears, anyway). Doesn't sound like a Ric either. I could believe a Bass VI but I wouldn't be surprised to find it was a Jazz.[/quote] Well the reason I asked the original question is that it sounds a lot like my Ric, both PUPs open with Ric 4445 flats. Hey, the sound's probably got more to do with the tubes and gizmos than the model of bass, but I was bored when I posted And Clarky, had you suggested the Ritter in seriousness you know I'd have bought one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1317399926' post='1390428'] See, I told you.[/quote] Friday afternoon on Basschat eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Aww Beatles banter and I missed out! I've also seen it repeatedly stated that it was in fact George who played a Fender VI on 'Birthday', listening to the track I'm pretty convinced that's what it is. But I know Macca was using his freebie Rick around this time also. EDIT: Just found this if it is at all helpful in deciphering what's what... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZeTCQtR0Cw&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL0F18C934AEC7BF42 Edited September 30, 2011 by risingson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Well, here's Lennon playing the same Bass VI (if that's what it is on Birthday): [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIKqFbycJgY[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Helter Skelter - Lennon on the Bass VI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oynWTrw0jok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Compare and contrast with McCartney playing the Ricky (or is that the Jazz?): [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5PMrTkl1Ww&feature=related[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Hmm all a bit confusing really. I love Lennon but he shouldn't have been allowed to play bass on stuff, he was bloody awful, not a patch on Macca or Harrison. I would still guess 'Birthday' was the Fender VI but I'd be interested to hear otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 [quote name='risingson' timestamp='1317420995' post='1390707'] Hmm all a bit confusing really. I love Lennon but he shouldn't have been allowed to play bass on stuff, he was bloody awful, not a patch on Macca or Harrison. I would still guess 'Birthday' was the Fender VI but I'd be interested to hear otherwise. [/quote] I agree with all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) In Beatles' Gear, by Andy Babiuk, page 226 states that both Lennon and Harrison used the newly-acquired Fender Bass VI to great extent, though unfortunately it does not confirm who played what on that track. It's a very interesting and informative book, not just for Beatles freaks but for gear-heads and as an historical account, too. Link to Amazon [url="http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Gear-Revised-Andy-Babiuk/dp/0879307315"]here.[/url] The infamous Nick Thiel (Ricky guys will know of this fella) also has a book on Beatles' gear though I haven't read it. Edited October 2, 2011 by Stacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocco Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I found this thread to be educational and informative. I bought a Hofner because my band sometimes and on occasion cover helter skelter, I'm a bit gutted to find that the beatles used stuff other than the hofners and ricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='cocco' timestamp='1317541879' post='1391570'] I found this thread to be educational and informative. I bought a Hofner because my band sometimes and on occasion cover helter skelter, I'm a bit gutted to find that the beatles used stuff other than the hofners and ricks. [/quote] When McCartney plays Helter Skelter live these days it is the Hofner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV18scOsX54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1317420529' post='1390704'] Compare and contrast with McCartney playing the Ricky (or is that the Jazz?): [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5PMrTkl1Ww&feature=related[/media] [/quote] So, is that the Ricky or the Jazz? I vote Jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='risingson' timestamp='1317420995' post='1390707'] Hmm all a bit confusing really. I love Lennon but he shouldn't have been allowed to play bass on stuff, he was bloody awful, not a patch on Macca or Harrison. [/quote] At this stage The Beatles (pushed by Macca) were trying to get back to their roots. After the totally studio albums Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour they were trying to write music that could actually be performed live ... not that they had any plans to do so. Macca believed (with some logic) that this would persuade the four of them to start acting like the close-knit band they had been. What this meant in practice was that, if Macca played piano on a song, then someone else had to play bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='Stacker' timestamp='1317541090' post='1391568'] Beatles' Gear, by Andy Babiuk. Link to Amazon [url="http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Gear-Revised-Andy-Babiuk/dp/0879307315"]here.[/url] [/quote] 'From cheap early instruments to the pick of 60s technology'... this looks like a great read. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1317550579' post='1391645'] 'From cheap early instruments to the pick of 60s technology'... this looks like a great read. . [/quote] Trust me, it is. I got it in Oz a few years ago, months before it was released here. Think mine is the 1st edition. Edited October 2, 2011 by Stacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='Stacker' timestamp='1317551774' post='1391660'] Trust me, it is. I got it in Oz a few years ago, months before it was released here. Think mine is the 1st edition. [/quote] Here's a link to the second edition: [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/22Beatles-22-Gear-Fours-Instruments-Studio/dp/0879309563/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/22Beatles-22-Gear-Fours-Instruments-Studio/dp/0879309563/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='Stacker' timestamp='1317551774' post='1391660'] Think mine is the 1st edition. [/quote] It's already another valuable item of Beatles memorabilia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1317547625' post='1391616'] What this meant in practice was that, if Macca played piano on a song, then someone else had to play bass. [/quote] I would agree that it does look like this would be the case but looking at the credits from The White Album onwards, whilst Harrison does get credited for a lot of bass duties, McCartney does as well on many of the same tunes so it becomes quite hard to tell who played on what, what was doubled up etc. George Martin was all for trying new things. Actually this period of the Beatles would be my favourite for this very reason, I like the idea that they could be so interchangeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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