Mykesbass Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 On a commercial level, shouldn't you be looking at a guitar version (or is there already such a thing)? More of them (and more likely to not have theknowledge)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMech Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 One change I'd propose is adding the chord notation before the name e.g. CM7+9. It also seems you're missing out a normal (maj3rd, perfect 5th) dominant 7th, normally notated as C7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 [quote name='bassman7755' post='1366544' date='Sep 8 2011, 03:52 PM']naming the notes according to one arbitrary key and having two names for the same note is obviously insane[/quote] But they are not the same: that's the point. It's only equal-tempered scale compromised instruments like the piano and fretted stringed instruments that force them to be the same. Look it up. It's a useful piece of harmonic/musical theory . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Oh, and to the OP: great resource. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 [quote name='muttley' post='1367377' date='Sep 9 2011, 10:20 AM']But they are not the same: that's the point. It's only equal-tempered scale compromised instruments like the piano and fretted stringed instruments that force them to be the same. Look it up. It's a useful piece of harmonic/musical theory .[/quote] Thanks I'm aware of the history. So what music these days does not use the even tempered tuning ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojwethorns Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 [quote name='Doddy' post='1366453' date='Sep 8 2011, 02:31 PM']You may want to check out some of the notes. For example in the key of B flat minor you have C# as the 3rd and it should be a D flat. I noticed things like this a few times.[/quote] Wow, this has been an education !!! So sharps and flats are not the same. I've now adjusted the app to change the display of sharps / flats according to key. I am not sure if I have got them all right though as I cannot find a definition for all scales for all keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojwethorns Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 [quote name='GT40Graham' post='1367269' date='Sep 9 2011, 08:11 AM']I think it's a great idea but it could be improved IMHO very easily. Make the diagram more like the average bass neck by missing out most of the fret numbers and highlighting the "dotted" frets ie 5th, 7th, 9th, 12th, 15th etc.[/quote] Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take them on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 [quote name='bassman7755' post='1367415' date='Sep 9 2011, 10:57 AM']Thanks I'm aware of the history. So what music these days does not use the even tempered tuning ?.[/quote] None of it? All of it? I don't really know the true answer to that. Solo piano definitely does, infinitely-variable tuned instruments (eg voice) definitely doesn't. I suppose everything else is a mix of equal-tempered and harmonic tuning. "Good enough for Jazz", I say . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkydunc Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just revisiting this and wondered if it was going to be available as an app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 This is a good idea but could use more clarity in the design. It would be much easier to use with a bit more attention to the visuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1315503407' post='1366793'] Not really because if,for example,we are in Bb minor the third is always Db and not C# (which would be the #2/#9). If you are trying to teach about chord tones it is important to make the distinction between the two. [/quote] I suppose it depends who its aimed at if marketed, regardless if its labelled Db or C# it shows the user what notes to hit on the fret board, but it would make sense to get it "exam" correct I guess Perhaps the OP should get the correct theory advice, update the program and try and get it in the app store, that would be a nice achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1317840434' post='1395327'] I suppose it depends who its aimed at if marketed, regardless if its labelled Db or C# it shows the user what notes to hit on the fret board, but it would make sense to get it "exam" correct I guess [/quote] I don't really think it matters who it's aimed at really or about being 'exam correct'-it's just that I think that if you are going to make an app to help musicians,then the theory should be correct. There is enough bad information about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassistclem Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1315488686' post='1366453'] You may want to check out some of the notes. For example in the key of B flat minor you have C# as the 3rd and it should be a D flat. I noticed things like this a few times. [/quote] A great looking design that will be really usefull. I also noticed the incorrect mix of sharps and flats in the same chord though, you'll have to sort this or will cause great confusion to students. Even a simple chord/arpeggio like Eb major shows a A# instead of Bb... Edited October 5, 2011 by Bassistclem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'd buy this as an iPad app, brilliant for teaching with, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkonthehill Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Bravo I say. A great quick reference for the competent player and I imagine a great resource for the folk just learning. Its a great tool and I have it in my favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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