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What's the most over-rated bass, or bass related product???
Josh replied to silverfoxnik's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='273860' date='Aug 31 2008, 05:28 PM']Pointy basses or guitars[/quote] How come no one has mentioned BC Rich yet???? It's Madness I say. -
What's the most over-rated bass, or bass related product???
Josh replied to silverfoxnik's topic in General Discussion
And G&L's, they really are quite ugly in the flesh, and the sound is nothing special. I'm a git I know, but can I just say, I know I can't see you but I bet your all wearing smashing blouses -
What's the most over-rated bass, or bass related product???
Josh replied to silverfoxnik's topic in General Discussion
Ooooooooo Dean basses, a good one here and there but usually very underwhellming. -
What's the most over-rated bass, or bass related product???
Josh replied to silverfoxnik's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='Adrenochrome' post='273837' date='Aug 31 2008, 05:12 PM']Wow, I'm surprised by the anti-Ashdown sentiments. My 2x10 cab was only just over £100, the head about £170 I think. Both are 100% reliable and loud enough to hear myself onstage [PA does the donkeywork]. For that sort of money, where's the beef?[/quote] Man if your happy with it then that's all that matters, what we say about Ashdown is all from experience and not intended to offend, but if it makes you happy don't worry about what we say . -
What's the most over-rated bass, or bass related product???
Josh replied to silverfoxnik's topic in General Discussion
Amp wise. Ashdown: The Great British Boomer, there isn't any discernable tone or voice from any of their products, and the Superflys are just ticking time bombs. Mark Bass: Too yellow and they lack the tone that gives them all the hype. Hartke: More muddy than having a pig wrestle at a family reunion in Arkansas. Trace Elliot: Much the same as Ashdown, with more mids maybe but still don't do it for me. GK: You want them to sound good but they never do. H&K: Just no. And I'm really failing to see why some people spend so much money on all valve amps (I mean £2000+), they don't really sound much different and much more hasstle than their worth. -
What's the most over-rated bass, or bass related product???
Josh replied to silverfoxnik's topic in General Discussion
P-Basses: They're ugly, always have been and always will be, the tone is just heartless and does nothing for me, they are complete sods to play, uncomfortable in any position and just really really bug me. Stingrays, Sterlings and Bongo's: The same as above, but I'll add that Bongo's really don't justify their own hype. Rickenbackers: Awful instruments, the sound is off-putting, the looks are just nasty, and is the most uncomfortable bass I've ever played. Ibanez's: Souless and boring, they just feel like they're created by robots. Wals: The bass for a Druid. Killer tone though. Peavey's: Just avoid. Warwick Dolphins, Corvettes, Vampyres, Strykers, Buzzards, Infinities: The worst of the Warwick family. Fernandes: The same as Ibanez but more expensive. Vigiers: Ugly as hell but the tone is a suprise. Corts: Theres just nothing of worth shouting about there. Traben: Just eww. Thunderbirds, Explorers, Flying-V's, SG's etc... and all "Cool" vintage basses: They all sound and play horrible, everytime. Ritters: Different but fail to amaze. Anything else by Fender, besides the jazz of course ^_^ . I know I've missed out a few somewhere......and I have: Ernie Ball & Rotosound & Elite Strings: Just can't cut it on any bass. And boiling strings does next to bugger all IMO. -
I think my GAS is only really now aimed at other 535's and 635's, and maybe the odd Warwick here and there, and a nice looking jazz but I know either way I can't get on with one. I've luckily been able to own quite a few boutique basses and have had a feel for whats out there, but I doa ctually find it hard to find something to gawp at other than more MTD's, I think I'm quite like Ped, I'm pretty sure I'm quite settled on the 535 being "The" bass for my every need, nothing has been adjusted since I bought it, and is always making me play more and more the way I always wanted to. And now I've pretty much got a 635 sorted to compliment it, and I think I should be happy for a good amount of years to come. I realised this today when I sold my King-Bass, I'm pretty sure I don't want another Status, not in a bad way, but in a sense I doub't I'll ever GAS after one again, and the same for Warwick, I chased after a SSII for a while, got one and it's left me cold, so that will be moved on soon, but the 535 just keeps me hooked.
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[quote name='simon1964' post='272772' date='Aug 29 2008, 07:33 PM']Or speak to Jon Shuker and get one of these for half the price![/quote] Kind of takes away the novelty of it being a "Warwick" single-cut though dosen't it
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[quote name='warwickhunt' post='272756' date='Aug 29 2008, 07:20 PM']Then sit back with a stiff drink Did you photoshop that Josh?[/quote] F**k no, I can't photoshop anything, I found it on the Warwick forum, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone has put the idea to them in the past or recently. There is a Streamer SC mock up in the samen thread but it's not worth posting, someone with some Photoshop skills on here could probally come up with a more decent one. A Thumb NT SC5 String................the future??
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It's photoshopped, but still, I like the idea: I wonder if they would ever take SC's into consideration, there could be a market there. I'd have one
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A BW Legend. RIP.
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[quote name='marcus bell' post='271847' date='Aug 28 2008, 03:29 PM']all right guys thanks for your help, ive just recently got back into jamiroquai big time... i love the first three albums best...zender is good thanks again marcus[/quote] They are classics, though don't rule out Dynamite, there are some great grooves on there .
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[quote name='warwickhunt' post='270192' date='Aug 26 2008, 01:03 PM']I'm sure I know you well enough to know that my jibes re. Wicks is taken in the right context Josh and I [b]know[/b] there are a lot of basses out there that are better than Warwicks... don't forget I also own a Bolin and I've had a 'lot' of other basses smattered through my Warwick meanderings TBH my main gigging bass for a lot of years ('91 Infinette) has been my worst sounding bass (when played in isolation) but I've yet to play anything that is as comfortable and effortless to play that just seems to 'fit' into band situations. Hence my views on holding on to both basses for a while longer. Have you considered playing about with preamps for your various basses? I'm in the process of swapping out an MEC unit for an Aggie OBP1 just to see what it does and I confess to having put a Demeter pre into a MEC equipped SSI and it turned a good bass into a great one.[/quote] Of course they are John I'm just trying to shake of the shallowness I use to have about Warwicks being THEE bass for me, they could still well be, but I'm just finding that my 535, although it hasn't got that classic growl of the Wicks which is what I was and still am drawn to, it's got more of a subtle warm growl which I find more suited to me, and the slap tone is sublime, and the action is exactly what I strived for on my past Wicks, but my SSII's action isn't far off so it is very playable. Hmmm, I prefer to have a bass that both sounds good isolated and then just as good in a band context, and agan the 535 is that, from playing many siongs from different genres, I'm finding all I need to do is adjust the pan control a little, that's it, whereas the SSII and KB I'm constantly pulling, pushing, turning, before I arrive at a comfortable tone. It has crossed my mind, but I'm not 100% certain about it.
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[quote name='thedontcarebear' post='269974' date='Aug 26 2008, 08:10 AM']How much for the kingbass? :brow:[/quote] Quite a bit [quote name='Sarah5string' post='270013' date='Aug 26 2008, 09:17 AM']If you're not playing it is there any point keeping it?[/quote] I do play them, and I bought them for specific reasons, the King Bass has always been a bass I've wnated to have since a friend let me try one out a while ago, not for the Mark King value as such, more the fact, at that point it was the most comfortable bass I had played, and I just like how the graphite neck gives it such an individual voice compared to other basses, it's just I'm pretty sure the scale isn't for me, fun for a while, but the 35" scale of the 535 is just so comfortable. The SSII I bought because I've been a fan of Dirk Lance's tone for a long time and I've always wanted to see how one played and sounded, whilst it sounds good, it just hasen't moved me enough to warrant holding onto it...yet. [quote name='warwickhunt' post='270017' date='Aug 26 2008, 09:22 AM']I always have room for another Wick! Eleventy twelve pence do? I wouldn't rush to do anything, you might get the 7 [s]year [/s] mth itch and want to swap back. If in a years time you still have that lust for an inferior bass to your Warwick then you should maybe think about selling. [/quote] Not for an 1998 model you don't! Dare I say it, as much as I've love Warwick, my 535 beats all of the Wicks I've owned, hands down. [quote name='Sibob' post='270034' date='Aug 26 2008, 09:51 AM']In what context are you playing them? Bedroom? Gigs? etc Because in my experience, a bass that feels and sounds great in one of the above situations doesn't mean it is the same in the other situation! Si[/quote] Both Si, I've tried all 3 in both context's and the SSII sounds weak but very nasally and growly, and the KB just dosebn't distinctly stand out, whereas the 535 triumphs in all fields. [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='270069' date='Aug 26 2008, 10:34 AM']Hey Josh, the sparkle and quailty of the sound on my KingBass suffers when the strings are a bit dead, probably the same as yours. Put on a set of new hotwires and it sings! I've got to the same point with mine a couple of times, but the new strings reaffirm your faith in the instrument. I'm not sure why it is, but the KingBass is much more resonant than the S2, almost annoyingly so! Perhaps the cavity inside the neck is larger, or the smaller body makes more resonance run through the neck. It is a very individual sounding instrument, though.[/quote] I think I definetly will before definetly considering, but I'm thinking I'll just end up putting the new strings on, having a bit of slap, fun for a while but it'll come back again. It does feel like a novelty/gimmick bass sometimes.
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I think the honey moon period is over with my King Bass and SSII, whereas the 535 is the bass I keep coming back to and keeps making me smile each time, so now I'm thinking maybe it's time to move them on and put a deposit down for a new custom 535, or should I just whack a new set off strings on both the KB and SSII and stick with them for a few months to be sure?
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[quote name='leonshelley01' post='269660' date='Aug 25 2008, 06:35 PM']I saw them last year with Rob and was pretty impressed. He fills the role well, a nice mix of Cliff style histronics and Jason's rock steady playing. My real fear is that he will not be allowed to contribute to the writing, which is where Metallica have been lacking in recent years. Cliff was the musically knowledgable one who allowed Hetfields great riffs to flow into each other. Once the songs simplified on the Black Album, Jason kept them tight (lets face it, there probably isn't a looser drummer than Lars!). But the lack of a decent bass player or bass line on St Anger made it a mess, coupled with the fact the guy producing the album was involved in the writing and bass playing didn't help. There wasn't anyone with a little distance between themselves and the band saying "hold on, that just doesn't work/it's too long/sort that f**king snare drum out!" St Anger came across as a mish-mash of ideas not fully thought out bolted together. Load and Reload were not thrash, or even heavy metal, but at least the majority of songs flowed and were fully realised. Metallica are between a rock and a hard place at the moment. Older fans like myself want a Ride/Master/Justice style album with the old complexity, speed, and tightness again. A lot of the younger audience will want a straight ahead metal album like the Black Album. Some people actually liked St Anger! So where do the band pitch the new stuff? Either way someone is going to be disappointed. I just hope it won't be me![/quote] Rob has been given alot of freedom in the writing process for Death Magnetic, for one of the new songs he contributed the flamenco/spanish guitar intro which is quite impressive, yet I guess we'll have to wait until the 12th to finally hear if his groove laden appraoch to metal has made it's presence. Giving Rob creative freedom is one of things they decided on when he joined, because it was what pushed Jason away, due to James not wanting him playing anything but Metallica, though still not letting him add to the writing process. Personally I feel the way they use to make songs was the best way, James and Lar's jamming out and arranging all the riffs the guys recorded, it's how RTL,MOP, AJFA and The Black Album were brought about, and I think Load and Re-load were much the same as well, but ahd more of an open feel, and by that I mean the songs seemed to had stemmed from jamming sessions, Fuel is a perfect example of on the spot riffing. And St. Anger was pure jamming, and was actually quite uncomfortable to watch on SKOM, writing the same riff over and over, plus I do wonder where they got the idea to try Drop C, that was a mistake in itself. Your completely right about them being caught in a bad situation, because any which way they decide to gm they have to take stock that alot of their fanbase love Kill 'Em All to Justice, and some love The Black Album to Re-load, and then theres the new fans, from St. Anger, who are still un-informed about what made them so great, so anything they throw at them they'll be the first to call it "Totally Awesome, best song they've ver written man, well not as good as Frantic...." ...Still, I do genuinely like everything they have released and can enjoy each album, but more specifically, the thrash era stuff, and as I've said in the thread in the Off Topic, I'm holding out for one very Battery/Blackened/Damage Inc. sounding thrash song which will probally give the album something to shout about. So you wont be too dissapointed, but I know I'll constantly thinking "Right ok, you can still write a damn good thrash song, so why not a few more to balance it out??".
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[quote name='Mr Fudge' post='269262' date='Aug 25 2008, 01:28 AM']Did they do Stonehenge? :wub:[/quote] Nah but they've met Spinal Tap.....twice Well 2 and 1 third if you count their appearence in The Simpsons.
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[quote name='steve-soar' post='269249' date='Aug 25 2008, 12:49 AM']Hi Alien 3 fan, I should have said that I think Metallica are tired and gave an average performance. I have seen them a few times and was wiped out by there passion, something has changed and the band I have seen was not shown tonight. Mayyyyte.[/quote] Thanks Steve! Right.....Puppets is on, and I'm in zee mood. It's quite simple, depending when you saw them that is, if you saw them anytime from 1983 to at least 1999 then as a live act they were just about one of the best in the genre. They are indeed tired now, they are much older and have been through alot of stuff, like Hetfields rehab stint, which to be brutally honest was way too over hyped when compared to Dave Mustianes numerous attempts at trying to stay sober, and who suffered alot more than James ever did, I think it's 15 times altogether for Mustaine, compared to James's one time. And also depending if you have seen SKOM, you'll know about Phil Towel counselling the band for about 3 and a bit years, that along with James becoming sober completely changed them. Live, they weren't the same "Hey f***s! Shake your beers, tits, and whatever the f*** you got for this next song" Metallica, they were a "Hey guys, we love you, we love your friends, we love life, enjoy this pleasent little number called Whiplash". Also the Madly In Anger With You tour was easily their worst, they were horribly loose, James voice was hanging on by a thread, Rob was still getting into the feel of being in Metallica and the fans were trying to get use to him so the gigs were quite hostile, and the new material just wasn't cutting it, hence why they play nothing from St. Anger now, probally every now and again will they play one but very rarely in my view. They have been working on themselves for the last 3-4 years, that much is evident from the last few fesitval appearences and the songs from Death Magentic thus far, James has revised his voice and managed to regain it to the way it was for the last Summer Sanitatirum tour in 2000, it still no where as good as it was on S&M or Cunning Stunts, but it's far better than from any gig or television appearance from 2003-2006. And Lars has seemingly gotten tighter and more quieter as well, Kirk is Kirk, he's just doing his job and that's that, and Rob has finally made his presence known. But, despite all that, the passion and the aggression which made the 1989 Seattle show such an amazing visual document, and that watching just the other day made me think the exact same as you, it's not there anymore. Yes the songs are still being played, the bass is more prominent in their sound now, but any live version ofBattery post 1999 leaves me cold, any gig earlier it's brutal, they way for which it was intended. I guess you could say it's also down to Newsteds departure, and I'd agree, he made them a better live act, he carried them for a lot of the live shows at times, and he always kept in touch with what he knew what made Metallica, Metallica. Unfortunately he was never really allowed to make much of a contribution to the music besides recording the bass parts James told him to play, maybe a few small bits got in, My Friend of Misery is possibly that, and Where The Wild Things Are, a cruelly underrated song on a cruelly underrated album, but that's another matter. Still, he was a staple live, and his depature was the catalyst which started the Metallica of now. A more family friendly Metallica, one you could take your children to see, and not get offended by So What. I love them, and I have for going on 8 years now, I'm not sure how evident that is But I know they wont ever be a patch on the band they were, even 10 years ago, let alone 20, and any hope for Newsted returning is firmly locked away, and is any hope for a new Master of Puppets (Disposable Heroes is on now, brootool) and I've finally learnt to accept that, still I'll always follow what they do, I'm pre-ordered and ready for Death Magnetic, and I know I must see them at least once whilst their still at it, which is quite an achievement, considering they are now not angry teens with acne infested faces, they are now acne scarred business men and family men, and in most peoples eyes, mine included, Legends. I could go on but I wont -Edit....I will actually add that at the time of recording St. Anger, they guys said "This is the album Newsted always wanted to make"........somehow me thinks not, considering he was the one who badgered them to play Puppets and Kill'Em All material mostly.
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Finished working out John Legends "Get Lifted", The Essential Michael Jackson (Both discs!), The Very Best of James Brown, Viva La Vida for niggles and piggles, and re-worked out Damage Inc. and Battery, tis the season
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And just to be a git......................wrong section mayyyyte! El Dood, envoke your mystical powers, you Purple Person
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[quote name='ste_m3' post='269228' date='Aug 25 2008, 12:19 AM']Im watching some kind of monster on TMF now in fact, i dont know how i feel about them! heh.[/quote] I'm in an essay writing mood tonight, so when I know what Steve means, I'm fully going to whack Puppets on and write away. I could write a seperate book alone about SKOM.
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[quote name='steve-soar' post='269221' date='Aug 25 2008, 12:05 AM']Great, tired, Rob is a pedestrian, kids love em whatever, discuss.[/quote] ......a tad confused by what exactly your trying to say. They were great and your tired, Rob isn't that amazing and everyone loves them and you don't know why? Not having a go at all man
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[quote name='ped' post='259556' date='Aug 10 2008, 09:35 PM']According to an 80's double page advert it says 'Pronounced Vee-Jair'[/quote] I always thought it was Vee-Jer.
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My 535 is just bliss every time I pick it up, I haven't had to tweak it at all since I bought it and it just does what no other bass I've had or have can do. I really want a second one
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Bodies and head stocks do it for me, especially Warwick head stocks, they just look....right ^_^ . Also the body has got be contoured and have character, not a lifeless slab, which unfortunatley Stringrays and Sterlings are exactly that to me.