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[quote name='Marky L' post='760674' date='Mar 1 2010, 01:05 PM']How about Big Bottom by Spinal Tap, that has three bassist, plus Derek Smalls on a twin neck.[/quote] Heh, at Live Earth they had most of the bassists from the entire day on with them, as well as all of Metallica and a few others. I swear there was TV footage of this but I can't find it on youtube.

Metallica! ..... Once.

Can I possibly bring up the chance that it was just natural variability? By no means do I mean don't worry about it at all. But at the same time, one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that. It may have just been an extreme outlier that's highly unlikely to happen again, and the fact that you're so down about it seems to corroborate this for me - as long as you're being honest you're the best judge of your own ability. I certainly don't mean you should get lax, practice harder if you think you should or whatever - but the chances are it's a one off and your next gig will be much better. Practice will reduce the chances of it happening again, and perhaps the extremity to which it could happen, but I don't think it's cause to panic unless it becomes a regular occurence.

[quote name='sPiKi' post='759171' date='Feb 27 2010, 03:12 PM']Cheers guys. Have decided to leave it into a guitar tech to set up properly for me & hopefully I will feel the love thereafter![/quote] Definitely the right move, you'd really kick yourself if you let a good bass go due to a few minor, fixable annoyances. At least this way you can judge it properly & make a fully informed decision - hopefully you'll love it when it comes back.

My girlfriend would probably love this, I think she'd actually take up bass if I got her a bass like that.

I do vocals for one band so have had to learn this quite sharpish, although I still have to sneak a peak in between lyrics for some of the harder basslines I have. My other band though I only do backing vocals for though, so I've never really been forced to learn to with them, though I probably could I guess. Thing is, when I'm playing a gig I always feel awkward not looking at my fretboard, as I never really know where else to look! Ooh look, there's one man and his dog watching us, hmm, there's the guitarist, drummer, singer - aaah, fretboard, much more interesting!

I'm happy to share my amp, done it a couple of times, but then it only cost me around £150, and I've shared other's on many occasions without causing them any grief. My guitard is generally also happy to share his Marshall head as long as he's happy that the guy borrowing it knows what he's doing with it. Every gig I've done there's either been a house backline or some sharing going on. As long as everything's well communicated in advance then everyone at least knows where they stand. When this doesn't happen and bands just turn up expecting to use other's gear is when problems start, and stuff gets annoying. The worst thing is when a band says they'll let people borrow gear and then do a U-turn on the night, just leaves everyone up a certain creek without a certain essential rowing implement. [quote name='karlfer' post='758415' date='Feb 26 2010, 05:17 PM']I had this cobblers on Wed night and was not popular when I said they could use my amp, after giving me a £500 cash, refundable deposit, against any damage.[/quote] I understand if perhaps someone wouldn't take no for an answer coming out with something like this to shut them up. However we've had bands go on like this from the very beginning, and it's just not on - a straight no is always preferred, and from my bands at least, respected.

[quote name='Bassassin' post='756114' date='Feb 24 2010, 02:31 PM']Rob Green >> Green Machine Technology >> Status. So - Status graphite neck, Schaller 3D bridge, possibly a DiMarzio in the bridge position plus some free hardware, electronics & a body. Has this been on before? Looks familiar. Jon.[/quote] I'm almost certain I've seen it before and possibly watched it, although I think it was aaaaaaaaages ago if it is the same one. That pickup configuration is quite recognisable though. No idea how the guy can claim that the bass is in 'top' condition though, it looks a right state.

It's listed on here! [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78130"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78130[/url] Also; [quote]I don't really like how these look but I'm sure £350 for this is an utter bargain, considering it must be towards the £1000 end new.[/quote] I don't much how much their original MRP was but towards the end of their production they were definitely going for under £600 new. It was either something like £469 or £569, I think it may have been the former but can't really remember (I couldn't afford it either way!).

[quote name='noelk27' post='751710' date='Feb 20 2010, 12:34 PM']"The Law" makes significant distinction between a private individual, not acting by way of trade or profession, and a trader or body corporate across the spectrum of activities those falling into said categories may undertake, not least as a seller or retailer. Even within the context of eBay a distinction is made under the standard terms and conditions, between private and business sellers - there is an initial burden on the eBay member to declare their status, although eBay reserves the right to categorise any member as a business seller based on measurable criteria such as volume of monthly sales, repetition of product listings, and so on. Certainly, there are commercial advantages to business registration, not least billing, payment, and feeing criteria. As correctly summarised, measures such as the Distance Selling Regulations and statutes dealing with the sale of goods generally apply to sales by way of trade or profession, where the statutory regime imposes a set of rights and responsibilities on the parties dealing, so as to exclude unfair contract terms, and practices. The position of a private individual is quite distinct, where the weight of statutory materials cannot be brought to bear on the seller, but where the body of common law and practice is of import. The common law is where the buyer of this item can seek refuge.[/quote] Ok, you seemed to have missed my point, which was basically DSR no apply-ee to private individual sellers, and that legally, the distinction between auction/BINs doesn'tmake any difference in the case of private sellers - they still don't apply either way (I misread discreet's post as meaning ebay policy means DSRs apply to all BIN sales, which the law wouldn't require). [quote]Outwith eBay, and after examining the item description to determine whether the stated serial number is an essential term of the contract, or other, it could be argued that the buyer has a right of rejection prior to proffering of payment. Taking the eBay construct, however, it is most probably necessary that the buyer does indeed conclude the transaction, thereafter availing himself of the procedures and protections offered through that marketplace. But this is the point at which commentators appear to be postulated as to the relative state of knowledge, of both seller and buyer, whether the description is sufficiently ambiguous as to imply authenticity of an identification plate only, and so on, and so on. To be brutally frank, I think those without sufficient knowledge of the operation of the law of contract are muddying the waters significantly. The seller has stated a serial number. The serial number - and it really does not matter if directly or by implication - becomes a significant factor in determining the identity of the good, and given the sparsity of other operable description, certainly arguably an essential. With the VIN system there are other statutory factors to be taken into consideration, but the same principle presides, that the identification, or serial, number can be related to a database, or record, for the purposes of identification, or authentication. If, on referring to the relevant database or record, the serial number were found not to relate to the specific item, then the seller would be in beach, with the consequent results to the enforceability of the sale. Should the buyer have conducted due diligence, prior to placing an auction bid or at some time prior to conclusion of the auction? Possibly, given that the information for conducting said diligence had been disclosed. Is this factor likely to influence the situation, rejection of the goods? Unlikely.[/quote] Given what the ad states, I think the seller has expressly excluded the precise identification of the bass, beyond "Fender Jazz Bass", from being an actual term of the contract. The terms of the offer are literally, I think, "Fender Jazz Bass with 307018 printed on the neckplate" - which is the offer the buyer accepts by bidding. The serial number therefore is actually a representation as to the identity of the bass. If it's a false representation then the contract is certainly rescindable, and the buyer can get his money back. But if the buyer is aware that the representation is false, he loses the right to rescind, as the representation can no longer be held to have induced the contract. If he's aware that it may be false, he might still lose the right to rescind for this reason - it probably comes down to the degree of notice that he had. That's my reading of the situation in terms of pure contract theory, there may be portions of commercial or consumer protection law or even ebay policy that apply but I couldn't tell you what they are. I do know that the DSR and the implied terms from the Sale of Goods Act don't apply, as it's a private seller.

[quote name='discreet' post='751667' date='Feb 20 2010, 11:33 AM']They can, and do! [url="http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/business.html"]http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/business.html[/url][/quote] Sorry, I think I got the wrong jist of your first post, DSRs dont apply to private sellers selling by BINs thought right?

This one amused me: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Precision-Bass-Special_W0QQitemZ280466637930QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item414d1d446a"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Precision-Bas...=item414d1d446a[/url] Not so much the price, but more the line: [quote]I have removed the [b]nasty[/b] standard gold single ply bevelled pickguard and replaced it with a [b]stunning[/b] single-ply “Greasy Groove” bevelled Zebra pattern vinyl pickguard"[/quote] EWWWWWWWWWWW!

[quote name='discreet' post='751658' date='Feb 20 2010, 11:14 AM']Not to a Private Seller running a Bid Auction. Distance Selling Regulations only apply to BINs (Buy-It-Now) sales, not Bid Auction sales.[/quote] Hmm, that's interesting - legally speaking I don't think there's any great distinction really (in the case of a private seller), but I suppose eBay can make that their policy if they wish. I suppose it may be justifiable that BINs are closer to business sales than simple auctions, and also the seller is implying that his item is worth the BIN price which may not be the case. And also I suppose it stops 'business' sellers who make a lot of BIN sales wriggling out of the DSRs by claiming to be selling as private individuals.

[quote name='johnny_frog' post='751600' date='Feb 20 2010, 09:54 AM']don't the distance selling regulations apply? you have a 7 day cooling off period with anything bought in this way... [url="http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/resource_base/legal/distance-selling-regulations/"]http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources...ng-regulations/[/url][/quote] I think they only apply when it's a commercial seller as apposed to a private individual, most consumer protection law only applies in this context - could be wrong though.

[quote name='noelk27' post='751518' date='Feb 20 2010, 12:45 AM']Yes. If the serial number does not relate to the specific instrument then the seller is in material breach of an essential term of the contract of sale. If in doubt about this, taking motorvehicles, an example mentioned elsewhere in the thread, assume the VIN was incorrect for a vehicle being auctioned, any buyer would have an absolute right of rejection.[/quote] This is true, however again it comes back to the seller being a tricky bugger and not actually stating that it was the serial number, just the number on the neck plate. Perhaps more crucially though, the waters become very muddy when the buyer is actually aware that the seller may be lying. I think once you get into this realm, the law takes a much more caveat emptor approach to things than when the buyer is unwittingly misled by the seller.

If it ended right now you'd be right, but considering there's 3 days left to go I think the price is already quite high. Been watching it for a few days now, although it'll probably be reasonable, I don't think it'll be bargainous. That seller has a nice Sandberg fretless going that I also can't afford!

The seller replied to me and states that it is indeed maple necked, but he says with "graphite fretboard", close enough I guess - but, his ad is unequivocal in stating that the bass is graphite necked. Also don't get the relisting, itsold this morning for £290, and it's the same seller who's relisted it. Dodgy dealer, innit.

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='749172' date='Feb 18 2010, 12:23 AM']Do you mean a washburn? They don't have graphite necks, just phenolic fingerboards.[/quote] Yes I do, shhh! It's late and they start with the same 2 letters!

I came across this bass whilst browsing ebay: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/washburn-Status-S1000-Headless-Bass_W0QQitemZ280464019345QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item414cf54f91"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/washburn-Status-S100...=item414cf54f91[/url] Now the seller is claiming it's a graphite through neck. However, all the info I can find on the web about these (which amounts to not a lot) suggests that they were never made with graphite necks but maple necks. I did a quick search in the basses forum here and couldn't find much on them accept passing mentions in a few Status/headless threads of people having owned these. Now supposedly these are pretty good basses in their own right, but I'm mostly interested in the validity of the graphite neck claim - certainly for a bass whose current S/H market values seems to be around £300 it's doubtful, but I thought I'd do a bit of checking anyway, in case there's something I've missed when I've looked. I've fired off a question to the seller about it but whether it gets answered by tomorrow is anyone's guess. EDIT: Can't tell me Warwicks from me Washburns, d'oh!

My parents live about 30 min drive from Peterlee, my Dad does a lot of work that way. Do I have £500 spare though? Do I fudge. Just about £499 off!

So it would seem: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=76808"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=76808[/url] If it seems too good to be true...

[quote name='karlfer' post='739702' date='Feb 9 2010, 09:31 AM']Was sold for £580. Now back on the bay at BIN of £775.[/quote] That's just unbelievable!

Problem is youtube is an attention seeker's paradise. Whilst a lot of people do some good stuff on there for the right reasons, a lot of the content is just people looking for their 15 seconds of fame, and that carries across into the attitudes of a lot of the commenters - people will just post just about anything to get a rise out of someone, or to imply that they're better than the guy in the vid or whatever, to get noticed.