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Anyone ever run bass through a Peavey Classic 410 cab?
Ian Savage replied to Ian Savage's topic in Amps and Cabs
Right, so sounds like it's worth a try but don't expect any real low-end and keep an eye on the cone excursion - would adding a panel to make it closed-back have any effect? -
Some of the songs that've been mentioned are on my covers band's setlist (Sex On Fire, Dakota, Alright Now, Summer of 69) but being the drummer's kind of cool in that respect as I haven't got to play the exact same part as on the record - as long as I keep something like the right tempo and 'feel' I can mess about with the part a bit more. To be honest I don't own SOF, Summer of 69 or Dakota, they're overplayed enough on the radio that I have a general idea of the structure and just, um, 'make it my own'. We draw the line at Mustang Sally though
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'Le Freak' by Chic brilliant song to jam on, and I've not heard many people do it.
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Anyone ever run bass through a Peavey Classic 410 cab?
Ian Savage replied to Ian Savage's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='Subthumper' post='966697' date='Sep 24 2010, 01:58 PM']Hi, I think you'll find thats a guitar cab.[/quote] I know that, that's why I said I was thinking about one as part of a six-string rig just wondered whether anyone had tried putting bass through one as the cab's power rating suggests it'll take it but I wasn't sure whether the cab design would make it impractical. -
Just curious really, I'm looking at getting one of these as part of a gigging six-string rig and looking at the specs they've got a power handling of 400W RMS, 800W program (which is higher than some bass cabs I've had!), but I strongly suspect that being semi-open-backed they won't have very much 'wallop' for bass duties (only at jam nights and such, nothing properly high-volume). Anyone ever tried it, or run bass through any other kind of open-backed cab? Cheers all!
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[quote name='markstuk' post='966640' date='Sep 24 2010, 01:15 PM']Ian, It's not really a stable stereo image per se, rather the rapidly changing effect created by the leslie/phasing simulations.. Whereever you are in the room you get it. although there are probably better positions than others... If you do fancy giving us a hand I can attempt to demonstrate this and you can tell me it's all bollocks :-) Cheers Mark[/quote] Ah right, okay - hey, if it works for you I'm not going to tell you to change it!
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I'd agree with stereo being a bit of a waste of time for live work, 90% of your audience won't be in the optimum place to get the benefit of it and it'll actually make the mix LESS balanced for them...
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[quote name='xzodar' post='966504' date='Sep 24 2010, 10:57 AM']In face there is a CFX16 for sale at a bargain price [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=98506"]here[/url] which isn't too far away from you and comes flightcased. (Given that I just spent over £100 on a flight case for the CFX16 that I bought this seems like an excellent deal).[/quote] Actually that's a very good call; you get your effects built-in as well which is one less thing to buy, set up and learn how to use properly.
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You're on the right lines, but I suspect you're not running your monitor sends in the optimum fashion. There's two types of aux send, 'pre-fader' (where moving the main fader for that channel DOESN'T affect the amount of signal going down the aux) and 'post-fader' (where moving the channel fader DOES change the amount of aux signal). In 99% of cases, you'll want a post-fader send running your reverb and effects (so that if you turn down the vocal or whatever's being fed to the reverb unit the level of the reverb comes down as well) and a pre-fader send running the monitors (so that your monitor mix doesn't change when you adjust the out-front sound). What I'd be looking at is a desk with at least three aux sends; if you've got two powered monitors you can then run separate monitor mixes for stage left and right, or provide your drummer with a different mix from the stage front, at the same time as having a reverb feed. I'm biased as I used to work for them, but on a budget I don't think you'll get better than one of the old UK-made Studiomaster live desks - at the more basic end there's the Pro series (three aux sends, IIRC, and one format with twenty input channels) but I'm sure you'd find a Trilogy (six aux sends) without too much hunting. That's the desk I use, and I love it; mine's the 206 model with sixteen input channels, two of which have both stereo and mono inputs which you can use simultaneously and there's four stereo aux inputs with basic EQ and routing as well for reverb returns, keyboards etc. Oh, and just to correct your channel requirements - for drums, bass, vocals, keys and guitar you're wanting 13 input channels, two of which are stereo; aux sends aren't classed as channels, they're FED by each channel. EDIT: I notice you're in Warwickshire, if you're gigging down there after I've moved to Leamington in the next few weeks I might be able to come over and engineer one for you and show you the 'optimum' way of setting up?
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For out-and-out rock, passive P or MM; for anything needing a bit more versatility, P/J.
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I reckon you want at least 2.5 x 1m to be worthwhile on bigger stages, while still being small enough to use in smaller venues - I got one done for the last band I was in from a local signwriting-type place, worked out a LOT cheaper than anywhere I'd looked for band-specific banners.
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...http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-TB48-Thunderbird-Bass-Guitar-Case-V-Sunburst-/140453291436?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item20b3ab25ac
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I'm sure we've all seen these before, easily transportable yet eminently giggable combos which put out FAR more level than anything with a single 10" speaker has any right to! For anyone who hasn't come across the GP7 preamp, we've got a preamp section with active/passive switch, gain control and two preshape options (which can be switched out altogether). 7-band graphic, hence the name, with overall level control and EQ in/out switch, followed by balanced DI out with pre/post switch, and an overall EQ rotary knob which goes from 'Low' to 'High' - quite handy for master control of the EQ to suit different rooms or to get more 'cut' instantly - and obviously a master volume control. Around the back it's nice and simple, just a power switch, tuner output and a pair of eight-ohm speaker outputs (one connected to the internal speaker, so I'm guessing that the combo puts out about 120W RMS 'as is', and will give the full 150W RMS/300W peak with a second cab - it's plenty loud as it is, it'd be bowel-loosening with a 1x15" ). This one's in pretty good nick, carpet-covered with the usual gigging wear but no damage - comes with a rudimentary but effective cover, too. I'm hoping to fetch around £175 for this, but feel free to make me an offer - I'm currently near to Cannock, Staffordshire but often around and about the West Midlands and Warwickshire; could look at postage, we'd probably be talking around the £12-15 mark at a guess.
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Am I the only one who keeps reading this thread title as 'On stage, at the moment...are you?'
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So who talks to you when you get off stage?
Ian Savage replied to Cat Burrito's topic in General Discussion
[quote]"Mate,you're band's dead good....You should go on X Factor"[/quote] THAT one pisses me off something rotten. [quote post='944873' date='Sep 3 2010, 07:34 PM']It's like this Singer: hot chicks "can I have your number/a shag" Guitarist: musicians "love your slide playing mate" Drummer: slightly less hot chicks "the singer's not interested but you can shag me if you want" Bass: soundguy "love that rig, my mate Dave plays Mesa Boogie"[/quote] And THAT is why I'm drumming with the band I'm in at the minute -
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This one? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Squire-Precision-Bass-Bag-/270633919474?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f0309e3f2"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Squire-Precis...=item3f0309e3f2[/url]
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I sincerely doubt it, as a lot of amps wouldn't be able to drive one reliably; that said, if you get a cab with four sixteen-ohm drivers in it it could be rewired to present a two-ohm load quite easily. Although be absolutely sure that your amp can go down to two ohms without getting excessively hot...
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Most Warwicks, most headless basses, most coffee-table-top basses, most Yamahas.
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Fender Precision (MiM) -Sold to the man in the hat!-
Ian Savage replied to JackieMoon's topic in Basses For Sale