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[quote name='roman_sub' timestamp='1442185088' post='2865042'] excellent! I've been tempted by one of those, they do sounds great in demos :-) [/quote] Yes, I've been blown away by the demos too (admittedly, they've nearly all been by our six-string cousins). There's a few on YT which are pretty good and in-depth [quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1442185388' post='2865047'] I've been using my blue Eterna for a couple of years now, I love it!! Good purchase! Si [/quote] Cheers Si I don't know how well the blue compares with the gold as the reverb architecture has been re-done from the ground up, but it would be cool to A/B them. In my FX set-up I'm low-passing the clean signal and amplifying that separately so that only the high end gets treated by the chorus, reverb and delay chain. FX chain is now Bass > X-Over > Hi-pass > JOYO Ultimate Drive > Big Muff Pi > CEB-3 Chorus (stereo out) > Eterna (one side only) > Delay (stereo in/out) > Amp(s) Ian

Got my hands on one of these today. Can't wait to stick it on the FX board and give it a whirl. Sounded really good using a Fender Mex Jazz, so we shall see if it stacks up OK with the Ibby. I'm expecting it to be good through my valve amp for the shimmery stuff. The reverb tail is extraordinarily long and the octave-up shimmer just shines. Tracks well on a bass down to G/F# territory and does OK with the open E Such fun!

I have a habit of trying different (and esoteric) tunings. Have tried Drop-D, Drop-C and BEAD before. Currently I'm using an unusual D-Maj7th tuning (D F# A C#) for a side project I'm working on. Had my Squier P-Bass tuned to BEAD for a long while, even after I converted it to fretless. If it works for you then go for it. Alternatively, have you considered a bass in standard tuning and getting an octaver for the parts where you need a low B etc? HTH, Ian

[quote name='silverfoxnik' timestamp='1441011022' post='2855218'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]By the way, we have some items kindly donated to us for the Raffle from D'Addario, which is fantastic, so thanks to them!... But we [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]still need other [b]raffle prizes[/b], so please let us know if you've anything you'd like to contribute?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Thanks[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Nik [/font][/color] [/quote] I have some stuff I can donate for the raffle:- A pair of unused mounting brackets for a Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2 power supply (to fit a PT Junior) and a JOYO Vintage Overdrive (Tubescreamer clone) pedal, boxed, bit of Velcro residue on the base but otherwise in vg condition. Cheers, Ian

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1440000017' post='2847458'] There is a guide on what is supposed to fit on what here... [url="http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52a0ce9ce4b0aa09f5b9273a/t/556c7101e4b08a6590d1677a/1433170177787/UpdatedBRKTguide.pdf"]http://static1.squar...edBRKTguide.pdf[/url] And the overall bracket page is here... [url="http://www.pedaltrain.com/brackets"]http://www.pedaltrain.com/brackets[/url] Don't know if there is any helpful info there. Hopefully I have a Classic JR and some (non VoodooLab) brackets waiting for me at home in a big thomann shaped box. A lot of reviews have complanied that the mounting brackets are tricky to fit at the best of times. Fingers crossed! [/quote] Yeah, that's been super helpful, cheers damn, wish I'd had that last week before ordering Anyhoo it's stuck to the front with Velcro for now until I can summon up the energy for a trip to PMT in Cambridge at the weekend and then the saga will continue Best of luck with the PT Classic

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1439814318' post='2845930'] I've run a stereo system at home and used it occasionally at gigs when I've taken the fretless along. On small stages, I've found stereo is pointless unless there is regular use of stereo effects (or run separate output socket per pickup). Most engineers prefer a mono source anyway because its easier to centre in the stereo spectrum. Lows are omnidirectional and become even more muddy with stereo effects. The bass loses its ability to anchor the mix in space. But on a big stage with two tiltback cabs behind, pointing directly at you, and less overlap with nearby instruments, stereo chorus sounds immersive and...pretty damn awesome. I've normally just sent a mono signal to the desk and enjoyed the stereo mix on stage. [/quote] I'm in the midst of putting together an effects board with stereo outs from the Chorus and Delay section. My bass signal gets split after my first board (the utility board just has my tuner, POG and DI). The output from the cross-over sends the lows to a big PA cab for clean, uneffected heft and the high-passed signal goes to my FX board so I can process it with the chorus and delay, then out to a pair of amps for the stereo effects. So all-in-all three channels. Sounds absolutely frickin' immense really ambient and washy, but with the added clean lows as well.

Little update. Have now got the Classic JR too. Great board, sturdy and well made. Here's the problem: I'm having trouble mounting the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2+ to the underside. The brackets I bought off of Amazon are for the right PSU but will only fit the older PT-JR series not the Classics anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

Got a bracket off of Amazon for my Pedal Power 2 to sit under the PT Classic Jnr, so tonight I will be stripping off all my pedals and fitting that now. EDIT: And the damned thing doesn't fit apparently the bracket [i]is[/i] for a Pedal Power 2 [i]but[/i] will [u]only[/u] fit the older PT range (PT-JR etc) not the new Classic JR. Balls Anyone have any ideas?

Well, the hard work has all been done now. Glued the case together last weekend. This weekend had the facia cut by a local carpenter and I then had the case edges rounded off on the router. Just a final sand and then the varnishing and finishing can be done. Got a brown stitched leather handle similar to Fender ones from Amazon - that arrived this morning so will fit tomorrow evening hopefully. Need a bit of mesh to cover the back part to prevent hands going inside the valve compartment. Ian

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1439118359' post='2840096'] I'll make a point of bringing it to Bass Bash Si [/quote] That would be fantastic! I remember the demo you did a couple of years ago at the Herts Bash, and being impressed with the Organizer even then. At that time I didn't have a need for something like that, but I've now gotten into some ambient-y kind of effects stuff, so willing to look in to it in a bit more detail. Cheers, Ian

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1438956849' post='2838975'] Yeah you'll get some great sounds from the POG and the Eterna, however I would encourage you to save for an Organizer. The Organizer sounds a bit weird when you reduce the lag and use it like a standard octave up, the POG is much better for that. The the Oragnizer comes into its own when you introduce the +2 octave and increase the lag, dreamy with the Eterna Si [/quote] Sounds like just what I'm after. Been playing with the POG, CEB-3 and Flashback to get some really spacey ambient sounds. I like the idea of having the Organizer on the board as well. It's on my list to audition next after I get the Eterna, will have to wait for Santa maybe hehe (I've seen the Organizer on Amazon for less than £150)

[quote name='4-string-thing' timestamp='1438948510' post='2838878'] With the prospect of some gigs coming up in the autumn, I've bought a few LED PAR cans to make us look a bit more interesting when we play The Dog & Duck etc. Trouble is if they're sound activated or on chase mode, I'm worried it'll look like a 70's school disco. We don't want much flashing, just gentle fades from one colour to another maybe and a bit dimmer between songs. I understand there is DMX but I don't know anything about it, or how it works. I don't want to be fiddling about between songs, and obviously we don't want a sound/lights guy to be taking a share of our fee, so can anyone explain it to me in very basic laymans terms? And what else I need to buy to get it working... Thanks in advance! [/quote] Can you post the make and model of the fixtures? Not all LED PARs are created equal, but they should all respond to DMX commands in a similar way. You will need a DMX controller of some sort (if the PARs don't run off of an internal controller) and some cables (the USITT spec says 5-pin XLR but most manufacturers cheat and use 3-pin XLRs and mic cable - not recommended but it does work after a fashion) For more info on DMX512 check out the Wiki entry [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX512"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX512[/url] Ta, Ian

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1438903040' post='2838645'] They don't do the same thing, although the shimmer reverb essentially sounds like the tails are pitched up. The Eterna is reverb and the Organizer is a -/+ pitch pedal with changeable lag (so the processed sound can trail your initial note a bit). They are actually my favourite combo of pedals ever, they sound so good together for sound-scapy goodness. Si [/quote] Oh goodness, my bank balance won't cope with an Eterna [i]and[/i] an Organizer having said that, I have Ocatve up/down courtesy of the POG so it may suffice to have just the reverb Happy days

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1438870120' post='2838259'] I should be there yes, look forward to catching up Si [/quote] Cool BTW how does the Eterna stack up against the ED Organizer as I've heard both but I'm unsure if they do the same sort of thing?

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1438863659' post='2838155'] Absolutely love the Eterna, I won it in the Circuits To Cure Cancer auctions a couple of years ago and haven't looked back. Not tried the Gold, but understand that it's just even more extreme . Si [/quote] Awesome, Si Saw the Gold reviewed on YT by Rob Chapman for Andertons and was blown away by the control-ability of the reverb section and the Octave-up 'shimmer'. Just hope my bank balance can cope with another pedal purchase at the end of the month! I've already spent a bit on pedals in the last few weeks (TC Flashback Delay, Micro POG and a Voodoo Labs pedal power pack, plus Pedal Train goodies) Anyhoo, hope to catch up at the SE Bash next month if you're going

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1438801657' post='2837565'] So this is the board for my new project Corybantic. Being a three-piece instrumental band, I get a fair amount of sonic freedom.....within reason. The DL-4 is just used for looping & the Dark Driving is always on: Si [/quote] ^^^ Like a lot. How are you finding the Eterna reverb? I'm GAS'ing for the Eterna Gold, but I've only found one UK stockist (Andertons).

^^^ I like that a lot. I've recently invested in a few new pedals and a couple of PedalTrain boards (a Nano+ and a Classic Junior). The smaller board is my designated 'Utility' board and just has the essentials for my church playing (Tuner, MicroPOG and some grit courtesy of a Bad Monkey. DI out via a SansAmp). For my bigger, more ambitious stuff I've set up an F/X board using the Jnr so I've got room for more dirt (JOYO Vintage and Ultimate drives), Big Muff Pi, Chorus and Delay. Still have room for one more pedal - GAS'ing for a Mr Black Eterna Gold. Next month maybe......

I don't get this brand snobbery - I don't class Boss pedals as 'cheap'. Inexpensive, maybe, compared to boutique stuff, but readily available and for the most part will do the job. I have a TU-2 and a CEB-3 and like both for what they do. I have other more expensive pedals but wouldn't turn my nose up just because of the brand (well, I [i]might[/i] draw the line at [i]Behringer[/i].... ) Ian

Finally got around to updating my FX board. Bought a PedalTrain Classic Junior last week off of Amazon for £80. Finished putting everything on it on Saturday. Trying to see if I can fit one more pedal on it (GASing for a Mr Black Eterna Gold). Any tips for mounting a Voodoo Labs Pedalpower 2 underneath (I don't have the mounting kit)

[quote name='operative451' timestamp='1436382389' post='2817773'] Its definitely rather nice running the digitech as an octaver, clean and then fuzz on the other channel. Stuff falls over... [/quote] That's always a good sign I used to have the BSW but sold it some time ago. I now have synth-y octave goodness courtesy of a Micro POG. Through a 12" PA cab it sounds dirty and immense A POG, a Chorus and a Delay walk into a bar...... it might sound like the start of a joke but I'm putting together a new board for the effects stuff so I can have a loop switcher, two flavours of OD, a bass Big Muff Pi, and the afore-mentioned CEB-3 Chorus and a new TC Elctronics Flashback delay. O.M.G have been making weird space synthy subby dubby sounds all evening with various degrees of silliness on my low-tuned fretless. Ian

I shall be coming [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. Hamster - 2. Silverfoxnik - BC Rich Eagle, Schecter Diamond P5, Levinson Blade B15, Yamaha BB300, amp & cab tbc 3. Billy Apple - Spector, Jule Monique, Demeter Minnie, EAD 4. Happy Jack - The Entire Population Of China 5. Bluejay - something lefty, provided I don't have another senior moment and leave it/them at home 6. Bassman Steve - Boogie and Barefaced stuff and a Precision or two 7. obbm - new micro-stack 8. Kiwi (?) - GB Shuttle 6.0 and two fEARful F112 cabs, Spector 5, Status 5, Alembic, Pedulla...and maybe the Steinberger 9. Bottle - 1x12 Cab and 1x10 Combo, FX boards and rack amp, Ibanez bass. 10. 11. 12. [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]13.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]14.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]15.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]16.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]17.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]18.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]19.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]20.[/font][/color]

I've been splitting my boards up. I now have a PT Nano+ with TU-2, Micro-POG, Bad Monkey and SansAmp on it for my utility board My main FX board will have my BBM Pi, some OD, my CEB-3 and TC Flashback - been trying to shoehorn it into the smallest board possible but with a PSU and DI box as well I'm going to have to use a PT Classic Junior. The pedal train planner has been really useful Ian

[quote name='pendingrequests' timestamp='1435742959' post='2811925'] What will you use the POG for man in worship? Song/effect wise? Paul Baloche's bass player had a workshop in our church and he uses the Boss Octave pedal to get a big low 'C' for one part of 'Hosanna' and thats generally it, but makes a BIG impact. [/quote] I'm going to be using it for Octave Up mostly to fill out the upper register (it's mostly me, a flautist and a keyboard player - occasionally an acoustic guitarist as well). There are also a couple of songs in the rotation which go down past the open E, hopefuly will save me drop/down-tuning. I've got an outdoor event Sunday afternoon in the village so I need a little more low-end heft; I'll set up my rack to send the high-passed output to the rest of the effects change (OD, chorus and delay mostly) then on to my second cab. Cheers, Ian

Gosh, PedalTrain Nano+ *snap* Got mine yesterday from PMT in Cambridge. I only went in for a browse. Ended up coming out £300 lighter and one PedalTrain, one EHX Micro POG and a TC FlashBack delay heavier still, it'll be nice to take all my gigging bits in two soft carry cases. Glad the POG came with a 9V PSU as I literally just dropped my One-Spot and sheared the darn plastic Earth pin off......had it for years, plenty of gigging, and I drop it on my floor as I'm setting up my new board.....spooky [attachment=195349:IMG_0182.JPG] This is just my 'Utility' board for Sunday worship...... Still trying to work out where to put this lot. Definitely need a bigger PedalTrain for the 'Effects' board. [attachment=195350:IMG_0184.JPG] Can't decide on the Vintage Overdrive (TS 808 clone) or the Ultimate Drive (OCD clone). Proposed loop order is Palmer D'Accapo > 1590A loop switcher (won at the Herts Bash raffle) > OD > EHX Bass BMPi > Loop Sw > Chorus > stereo out > TC FlashBack To do: some short(er) patch cables. JOYO's are good, don't get me wrong, but I need a more compact solution. George L's maybe?.

A lil' update folks Wood work has now been completed i,e all the routing and drilling done. Just need to set up a jig to clamp it all for glueing [attachment=195341:IMG_0164.JPG] Setting up the router to cut a guide channel first with a 1/4" straight-cutting bit. [attachment=195342:IMG_0165.JPG] Broke the bit luckily, just after the second channel was completed thank God :/ [attachment=195343:IMG_0168.JPG] Dovetail channels routed [attachment=195344:IMG_0171.JPG] Cutting the dovetail tongue on the side pieces [attachment=195346:IMG_0174.JPG] Dovetails all cut and dry fit together [attachment=195348:IMG_0179.JPG] Alignment check. All OK! Phew