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[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1371818896' post='2118481'] I actually quite like a lot of Reznor's stuff, I'm dismayed to find out I've been wasting my time! Nirvana and G'n'R, similarly. Just out of interest, can you recommend some music of merit? Something that you listen to perhaps. I'm genuinely interested to find out what you consider worthwhile and of acceptable 'merit'. [/quote] Trent Reznor is incredibly talented, it's best to read between the sweeping opinions put forward as fact on this forum sometimes.

[quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1371753564' post='2117806'] My favourite is Noel Gallagher on Jack White - "he's like Zorro on doughnuts"!!!! Hahaha [/quote] That was definitely my favourite Kev, cutting but really funny! The Elvis Costello one was brilliant too. I basically laughed at all of them minus the Clapton one which was incredibly close to the bone and too vitriolic.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1371638751' post='2116408'] Shame really but essentially telling a drummer how his bass drum 'should' sound is like telling a bass player he should be using a fender P bass... [/quote] Bass players should be using P-Basses

Really nice analysis, got a kick out of 'For Once In My Life' below actually, one of the best-constructed bass parts to ever be committed to a pop record.

[quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1371483628' post='2114412'] I chat to Jimmy Johnson, (lucky enough to call him a pal really, have met him a few times) and have asked him several questions about different aspects of playing. I asked him last year about trying to give specific sounds to a producer as per their requirement for a session, he came back with a load of advice including some pics of an old P bass a studio had hired for him, they had placed a cloth under the strings near the bridge to get a thumpy sound, he said it was not really his sound but he was happy to give 'em what they were after. I've spoken to him several times about playing with James Taylor and Allan Holdsworth and sent him recordings that I've done for advice. He (Jimmy) is a really lovely helpful guy, very humble and in my opinion one of the worlds great players at the moment. [/quote] Jimmy Johnson is incredible, he reminds me a tiny bit of Anthony Jackson in the way that he is in no way constrained by the limitations of his instrument, or at least it never sounds that way when he plays. I like players that sound like they know the full extent to which their instrument can be played but not having to play like it all the time.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1371480563' post='2114353'] I have not seen anyone being impolite, (apart from in Conan's post above) and those that do not like the new system are doing exactly what you suggest - hence, (at least in part) the decline the OP refers to. I have never begrudged the fees publicly or privately, but their effect is obvious so why can't we discuss it without being made to feel like traitors? Is it not even slightly possible that the new system is not working as well as envisaged and there may be a better alternative? It is disturbing to see those brave enough to admit they don't like the fees being ganged up on by those that do, simply for holding a different opinion and calling the 96% of basschatters who did not donate under the old system 'twats' is not very polite or helpful to the debate. [/quote] I wasn't referring to you, or indeed anyone in particular with my first point, sorry about that if there was a misunderstanding. I didn't refer to anyone as a 'traitor' or a 'twat' though either, nor was it my intention to refer to anyone who disagreed with me as such. I just consider the answer to be very simple, which is to sell elsewhere on the internet if it's unpalatable for you (or anyone! No one in particular) to pay £20 for a year's unlimited worth of advertising. Regardless of whether you agree or not, the decision was made by the forum owners who pay for this place to exist so it's kind of a done deal after the discussion over it a few month's back. My experience tells me this is the best place to sell so I consider it to be a bargain.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1371475417' post='2114253'] Those people that have criticised the fees are entitled to their opinion and should not have to suffer the jibes of other members who hold a different view. [/quote] People should to an extent be able to say what they want providing it's put across in a polite manner but I can't help feeling the detractors of the new system should instead look elsewhere to sell instead of begrudging the new system publicly. I'm sure what they'd rapidly find out is that the second hand is slow everywhere, and that there simply isn't a better place online to buy and sell bass specific products second hand than the second largest bass forum in the world, probably the most popular one in Europe certainly. In fact the Eurocentric nature of the site IMO and IME makes it incredibly easy to shift instruments, providing you've got a bit of patience to deal with a slow moving second hand market which is true of everywhere right now.

I could have bitten Anthony Jackson's hand off a few months back when I met him but I basically had a mini-freakout standing in front of who I'd consider to be the most consummate bass player the world has ever seen. Instead I garbled a few unintelligible bits of poorly thought out conversation and that was kind of it. Lovely guy though, wish I'd asked him something at least half-interesting!!

[quote name='leroybasslines' timestamp='1370896854' post='2107214'] What about this for a lovely Precision tone? Distinctive but sits in the mix, woody but defined. Sweet! [media]http://youtu.be/i1cskIan5Jw[/media] Not sure I can do a 'best ever'! But if I had to choose a player who's basses, amps, fingers and talent I could appropriate for my own, it'd have to be Pino... [media]http://youtu.be/0d9wgf22sQU[/media] [/quote] Oh yes! Pino's sound is murderously cool, so is Michael League's.

There are a few for me, best rock tone I've heard on a recorded track is 'Rock and Roll Is Dead' by Lenny Kravitz. Cool tune and everything but the bass tone I find phenomenal for some reason. There are others too, nothing I'd really like to replicate myself apart from some of the more vintage tones that Willie Weeks got with Donnie Hathaway, I also like Anthony Jackson and Pino's fretted tones on most recordings that they've been a part of.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1370556068' post='2102828'] The mediocrity of modern music is simply down to the general public's lack of moral fibre. [/quote] Can't tell whether you joke over this one Skank but I don't believe it to be true at all. To be honest modern music couldn't possibly be mediocre, there is far too much variety and depth to popular music for anyone to argue that. What there is nowadays is an endless choice of music. It is easy to confuse modern music with what is presented to us through radio, TV and advertising. There are still a great deal of musicians out there that continue to work hard to get good music to us for little in return and that's definitely something that a lot of people on this forum will be able to relate to.

People seem to seriously struggle separating their feelings concerning The Beatles and the impression that they left on popular music, terribly so on this forum for whatever reason. It's usually just a result of a load of people who feel passionate about one particular subject, in our case it's popular music as it exists and its history over the past 60, 70, 80 years. Very easy to get argumentative and opinionated over, very difficult to separate what you love from the factors that defined the changes that the Beatles and George Martin made in the time that they recorded and worked together. No one knows where the next Beatles will come from because the Beatles appeared on the airwaves just as normally as any other derivate popular band would appear on Radio 1 nowadays. What they did was established themselves as a popular boy band, gigged around the world for a number of years, built an impossibly huge audience through superb management and PR, then decided to wield such incredible demand for their music to push the boat out with what they could do as a purely studio-based band. As it turned out, the very much established Lennon-McCartney songwriting team became a platform for the likes of George Martin to really test the extent to which a studio could be used as an extension of the voices, instruments and songwriting prowess that they had in spades. The rest is history, they pushed boundaries, wrote songs that could be anything from harmonically rich and hugely complex to incredibly basic but utterly catchy nonetheless. They will have laughed throughout some of the studio sessions where they performed, knowing that they absolutely had free reign when it came to what they could release, as it turned out it was almost anything. Their talents were inexplicably big, George Martin's prowess for arranging and production was very much the icing on the cake. The 'mediocrity' of popular music if you refer to the top 40 is a result of a saturated and lazy approach to the release of popular music to the record labels, it's easier to back a sure fire winner like what the The Beatles were in the early days of their career. But Nigel you know as well as I do that mediocrity is a hugely subjective thing, if you're willing to look a little closer than what is there on the surface of pop music as it exists then a plethora of superbly original music is there for the taking. The difference with what The Beatles achieved in their comparatively short existence next to the likes of some other big name acts throughout the years is a combination of incredibly hard work, strong collaborations with the right people and an unbelievable amount of songwriting and lyrical talent from 3 of the 4 of their members. It's just an utter rarity and something to be marvelled at.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1369407117' post='2088917'] I think the song sounds crap played on anything other than a five string bass [/quote] Boss OC-2, then it sounds better than on a 5 IMO.

That sounds like the worst idea in the entire world. Enjoy the fireworks!

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1369243853' post='2086861'] I disagree. I was never anti-Daft Punk, but this album appeals to me quite a bit, because of the grooves and rhythms. It is something new in a way that it's clashed a couple of different, very obvious, decades of music together, and while doing so, made them all sound better. If you're more into the old Daft Punk, that's cool, but I wouldn't say anybody who likes this one is "bandwagoning", personally, I think it's better than the likes of Discovery, which is an OK album, but next to this, no contest in my mind. [/quote] The press are bandwagoning is what I meant. Not everyone, but most seem to afraid to knock the album for fear of being out of the loop concerning current musical trends, no one wanting to contradict each other and Daft Punk's PR team have got them trending big style right now. If nothing else it's a lesson in the power of good label PR. The record is at best an interesting disco collaboration album with a lot of hype surrounding it, and it would be fair to say that if Daft Punk hadn't had a serious fan base and a good back catalogue then in the current climate of music the album wouldn't get the faintest look in. My point about it being live instruments is just me being a Homework/Discovery fan. Daft Punk were always a band that stopped short of picking up real instruments, that was the appeal. As far as pop tunes go, RAM has got 'Get Lucky' as a decent album release but Discovery had it all, within reason 70% of the songs on the album could have charted.

I don't see how it's directly a Chic ripoff when it actually features half of the songwriting team of Chic on the album. It is nothing groundbreaking that's for sure, more annoying still is that everyone seems terrifyed of giving it a bad critic, complete bandwagoning going on. I am a huge Daft Punk fan, the album features some good moments but I think Thomas Bangalter and Guy Manuel de-Homem Christo have missed the mark this time. Daft Punk were always electronic artists that emulated live sounding house music, now they're just getting other musicians to do it for them and they've lost their appeal.

[quote name='Meddle' timestamp='1369169425' post='2085861'] See no reason to honour that. I've seen his behavior on his forum, and I've seen many stories from others that have encountered his insane behavior. Rickenbacker's whole business model stinks. This doesn't mean we have to honour his temper tantrums and general histrionics in any way at all. [/quote] I don't think you're honouring what Gusto asks for the sake of Mr. Hall, rather the desire of the admins and owners of this forum not to have to continually be putting up with the aforementioned throwing his legal weight about. That's fair enough.

It's a turn of phrase more than anything, I don't think it's meant to be taken quite as literally as you've taken it. The idea of loss when a good musician dies is the person being left behind that created the music, I don't think it infers that the person in question had more to offer or even died too young in the case of Ray Manzarek.

I would have bought a DB750 long ago if it had not been so incredibly impractical for what I do. Currently using a TC RH750 but I'd quite like to make the swap to a TH500 soon so I could pair it up with a new Bergantino CN212, they work great together. The only time I could ever see myself benefitting from the power of the DB750 is at considerably bigger gigs, but then those kinds of gigs always see me with the back line provided by the sound company working the venue (typically in Sweden for me) so it's never an issue then either. Personally I would weigh up (literally) whether you consider hauling around the DB750 to be worth it all the time. If yes, keep it and don't bother with the TH500, if no, I'd recommend keeping the the DB750 anyway and buying a TH500 as well so you can pick and choose where you're gigging either amp. Personally I downsized my rig for a good reason.

What a song, I hear that intro and get shivers, every time. RIP

These are causing me the only case of GAS I've had in ages.