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[quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1374487381' post='2149157'] Oh, and how could I forget! One of my favourite pedal makers has a Tonebender on the go! I only have a couple of his pedals (a 'Rams Head' Muff and a Super Fuzz), but I really dig the plain vibe of his boxes... [url="http://north-effects.co.uk/mk-ii"]http://north-effects.co.uk/mk-ii[/url] [/quote] That sounds and looks excellent. Have you tried one out before? Any low end loss at all? EDIT - never mind, impulsively I just bought one. I'm dangerous with money.

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1374428294' post='2148618'] It has all the integrity of a Justin Bieber song, who has also sold millions of records which emotionally connect to their audience. [/quote] Don't be silly Chris. Even you must on some level understand how Stairway To Heaven is able to spark a strong emotional connection with a listener, even if you don't like it yourself. If you don't see it then you're likely being deliberately obtuse. The Justin Bieber comparison for example is plain bollocks.

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1374424460' post='2148564'] Can a song really be so dire if it can emotionally connect to so many people? [/quote] No. We've got a lot of sticks in the mud around here, people wanting to provoke reactions. The song is superb, if it can't be enjoyed that's understandable as people's opinions on music will differ. However the structure and writing capability of Page is something to be marvelled at, it's a skill far beyond most. The song is anything but awful, on the contrary it's genius.

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1374343525' post='2147897'] Just a specific subcategory of the misconception amongst some bass players that playing a P-Bass is somehow mandatory? [/quote] When I play something that sounds better I'll let everyone on the board know

[quote name='njr911' timestamp='1374324122' post='2147568'] I think what you really mean is "Buy another P and have flats on one and rounds on the other" [/quote] That's what I do anyway, and it's a great shout. I keep my P with flats in our studio for the most part. My band far prefer the sound of flats on a P-Bass but I can never be arsed hauling two basses to gigs and swapping/changing from song to song, I get a decent palm-mute 'faux flatwound' sound with rounds. IME you can't cop a roundwound sound from a flatwound string nearly as easy.

The best MM I ever played was pre-EB, 1979 dated. I doubt very much that it was anything to do with it's age, it just sounded the best to me. I've played and owned excellent EB MM's too. Point being that no one is going to notice the difference in sound apart from you. Your audience sure won't.

[quote name='njr911' timestamp='1374322866' post='2147545'] I'm rethinking wether to put flats on it now ? Tone was good last night, would flats drop it out of the mix instead of the presence I had last night ? [/quote] I think it's becoming a bit of a misconception amongst some bass players that using flatwound strings on a P-Bass is somehow mandatory. I love the sound of flats on a P but often when I've only got one bass on stage with me and I've got to cover a lot of ground then roundwound strings on a P-Bass offer the best of everything. Solid and punchy without compromising bottom end.

I've never been as happy with my sound as I am now with my '78 P. I really love flatwound strings but I'm still using roundwounds on mine, I'm finding that as a life long Jazz bass player, I don't feel too much like I'm compromising the punch and articulation that you get with a jazz bass with just a minor alteration of where I play on my P bass, just a little behind the pickup closer to the bridge. The two instruments don't sound the same but I'm much happier with the fuller bodied sound that a P bass affords. That being said I'm picking up my friend's '72 Jazz today on a long term loan basis, it will be nice to have a Jazz back in the fold!

A very quick one, and a topic I'm sure covered a gazillion times before but I'm after a Paul McCartney style Vox Tonebender Fuzz sound that isn't going to require me spending a complete fortune. I'm thinking nice germanium sounds if possible but I'm open to ideas. I'm a bit out of the loop regarding pedals right now (excuse the pun) so I'd like to hear some good opinions! Cheers.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1372700105' post='2128794'] A couple of questions for you in that case . Why would " working incredibly hard to get where they are ", as you put it , redeem or recommend the music of the acts you talk about ? Why would not enjoying their music be neccesarrily due to an inability or reluctance to feel joy ? You say that we need to accept that people have a variety of views on music , but then you are telling others off for not sharing your view and expressing themselves in a way you disapprove of . [/quote] I have no issue debating music openly but vitriol is different. This thread is riddled with the latter.

There really are quite a few bitter people on this forum. Reading through some of the threads today when I got back from Glastonbury really pissed me off, full of total vitriol for bands that obviously work incredibly hard in order to get where they are. We get it, you don't like festivals/band 'X' or whatever, but it's like some people are doing their best to make themselves sound middle-aged, hapless and grumpy and it's working a real treat. Get some joy in your lives, understand that people have varying ideas on what constitutes good music and might not completely agree with the bluntness of your point of view. It's f***ing boring and not what I thought this forum was usually about. I for one was not at all interested in seeing Mumford & Sons this weekend but I had nothing else to do on the last night. I'm not a huge fan of their music and I think it can sound samey but the atmosphere they created was truly great and their live performance was absolutely belting. I'm hardly converted but no one in that 80,000 crowd of people wasn't smiling and dancing, not at least that I could see.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1369254727' post='2087030'] I dep for Inti. Lotsa dough. best, bert [/quote] Must be tough keeping up with all those prog bass parts and fitting your massive head through the door at venues that will have you!

Obligatory James Jamerson tune, the reality is that the list should TOTALLY be made up of James Jamerson bass parts.

I love that man, looking forward to finally catching Chic at Glastonbury next week. More so than anything else in fact apart from maybe Tame Impala.

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1371818896' post='2118481'] I actually quite like a lot of Reznor's stuff, I'm dismayed to find out I've been wasting my time! Nirvana and G'n'R, similarly. Just out of interest, can you recommend some music of merit? Something that you listen to perhaps. I'm genuinely interested to find out what you consider worthwhile and of acceptable 'merit'. [/quote] Trent Reznor is incredibly talented, it's best to read between the sweeping opinions put forward as fact on this forum sometimes.

[quote name='kevin_lindsay' timestamp='1371753564' post='2117806'] My favourite is Noel Gallagher on Jack White - "he's like Zorro on doughnuts"!!!! Hahaha [/quote] That was definitely my favourite Kev, cutting but really funny! The Elvis Costello one was brilliant too. I basically laughed at all of them minus the Clapton one which was incredibly close to the bone and too vitriolic.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1371638751' post='2116408'] Shame really but essentially telling a drummer how his bass drum 'should' sound is like telling a bass player he should be using a fender P bass... [/quote] Bass players should be using P-Basses

Really nice analysis, got a kick out of 'For Once In My Life' below actually, one of the best-constructed bass parts to ever be committed to a pop record.

[quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1371483628' post='2114412'] I chat to Jimmy Johnson, (lucky enough to call him a pal really, have met him a few times) and have asked him several questions about different aspects of playing. I asked him last year about trying to give specific sounds to a producer as per their requirement for a session, he came back with a load of advice including some pics of an old P bass a studio had hired for him, they had placed a cloth under the strings near the bridge to get a thumpy sound, he said it was not really his sound but he was happy to give 'em what they were after. I've spoken to him several times about playing with James Taylor and Allan Holdsworth and sent him recordings that I've done for advice. He (Jimmy) is a really lovely helpful guy, very humble and in my opinion one of the worlds great players at the moment. [/quote] Jimmy Johnson is incredible, he reminds me a tiny bit of Anthony Jackson in the way that he is in no way constrained by the limitations of his instrument, or at least it never sounds that way when he plays. I like players that sound like they know the full extent to which their instrument can be played but not having to play like it all the time.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1371480563' post='2114353'] I have not seen anyone being impolite, (apart from in Conan's post above) and those that do not like the new system are doing exactly what you suggest - hence, (at least in part) the decline the OP refers to. I have never begrudged the fees publicly or privately, but their effect is obvious so why can't we discuss it without being made to feel like traitors? Is it not even slightly possible that the new system is not working as well as envisaged and there may be a better alternative? It is disturbing to see those brave enough to admit they don't like the fees being ganged up on by those that do, simply for holding a different opinion and calling the 96% of basschatters who did not donate under the old system 'twats' is not very polite or helpful to the debate. [/quote] I wasn't referring to you, or indeed anyone in particular with my first point, sorry about that if there was a misunderstanding. I didn't refer to anyone as a 'traitor' or a 'twat' though either, nor was it my intention to refer to anyone who disagreed with me as such. I just consider the answer to be very simple, which is to sell elsewhere on the internet if it's unpalatable for you (or anyone! No one in particular) to pay £20 for a year's unlimited worth of advertising. Regardless of whether you agree or not, the decision was made by the forum owners who pay for this place to exist so it's kind of a done deal after the discussion over it a few month's back. My experience tells me this is the best place to sell so I consider it to be a bargain.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1371475417' post='2114253'] Those people that have criticised the fees are entitled to their opinion and should not have to suffer the jibes of other members who hold a different view. [/quote] People should to an extent be able to say what they want providing it's put across in a polite manner but I can't help feeling the detractors of the new system should instead look elsewhere to sell instead of begrudging the new system publicly. I'm sure what they'd rapidly find out is that the second hand is slow everywhere, and that there simply isn't a better place online to buy and sell bass specific products second hand than the second largest bass forum in the world, probably the most popular one in Europe certainly. In fact the Eurocentric nature of the site IMO and IME makes it incredibly easy to shift instruments, providing you've got a bit of patience to deal with a slow moving second hand market which is true of everywhere right now.

I could have bitten Anthony Jackson's hand off a few months back when I met him but I basically had a mini-freakout standing in front of who I'd consider to be the most consummate bass player the world has ever seen. Instead I garbled a few unintelligible bits of poorly thought out conversation and that was kind of it. Lovely guy though, wish I'd asked him something at least half-interesting!!

[quote name='leroybasslines' timestamp='1370896854' post='2107214'] What about this for a lovely Precision tone? Distinctive but sits in the mix, woody but defined. Sweet! [media]http://youtu.be/i1cskIan5Jw[/media] Not sure I can do a 'best ever'! But if I had to choose a player who's basses, amps, fingers and talent I could appropriate for my own, it'd have to be Pino... [media]http://youtu.be/0d9wgf22sQU[/media] [/quote] Oh yes! Pino's sound is murderously cool, so is Michael League's.

There are a few for me, best rock tone I've heard on a recorded track is 'Rock and Roll Is Dead' by Lenny Kravitz. Cool tune and everything but the bass tone I find phenomenal for some reason. There are others too, nothing I'd really like to replicate myself apart from some of the more vintage tones that Willie Weeks got with Donnie Hathaway, I also like Anthony Jackson and Pino's fretted tones on most recordings that they've been a part of.