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Cheers. Very interesting. Any reading you'd recommend? We've got some Fibonacci going on there. Ive already looked into 1,2,3,5,8 etc etc influenced music but would love to learn a bit more. I did a bit on art history which included Architecture and there was a great deal in there about [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=4]Pythagoras and Fibonacci. Great stuff. [/size][/font][/color] What i think i really want to know is how to turn a standard performance into something that can really do it justice. I don't think this can be done just through practice. Ive also been listening to the New Dutch academy which is very enlightening and some performances of the Brandenburg concerto's. Every Group performs them differently, certain notes left out or brought it. Things moved about octaves and dynamics are just way off between performances. It's difficult to get a foot hold on were to start or rather what to accept first and then i can change it but ive got to begin somewhere. Also found this. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYgWve6Uy4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYgWve6Uy4[/url] Im presuming gut strings and Viennesse tuning. Sounds amazingly sweet though. EDIT: bit after 1.30 check out the size of that bow. Presuming its closer to an underhand grip being held over instead.

Thanks, Ive done that before. Took a while to get used to. Im thinking of buying a cheap baroque bow just to experiment with.

I asked this question over on talkbass as i presumed the larger double bass section might get some answers but not a huge amount of interest. So ill bring the question to you guys. Here's the link: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f5/historically-informed-performance-997698/"]http://www.talkbass....ormance-997698/[/url] Pretty much historically informed Performance/Practice and how to apply it to the relative composers/era's or even area's of the world. Whether it be video's, links, Books I'd appreciate any input. Cheers Sam

Or course. As any reasonable person will tell you. They are far superior to their German counterparts!

Was watching that just yesterday. Superb

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Yep, so many variable's and then also what different players like. I was sort of always under the impression that a bow with a good curve(Exact term??) would be better but then i see Rinat Ibragimov uses a very straight bow and has such an amazing touch. I might very well bring this bow to the U.K to get serviced and re-haired etc when it needs it. There's guys over here who can do it well but there's so few bass players that imagine that the don't get a huge amount of practice on bass equip. Also good info ^ Peter. Maybe a sticky should be made for beginners etc. What bass's to look at for a certain price. What bows are pretty good for less then 500 etc etc. That's valuable stuff that can take years to work out and would save a lot of money.

Yep keep your rosin out of the sun. Turned around to find my tuner and........

It's amazing how bass's vary. Yours sounds like what mine does in winter, apart from the bow. More tension less response. It didn't help that i was tuning 443,440, 432 depending on the day.

Cant really say anything useful but i can gloat and say that the hot weather is making my bass sound amazing. Really singing. Maybe try and keep everything out of the sun. Also maybe try tuning to A =415 if its increased in tension or just to loosen the whole bass up in general. Also a good way to get into baroque mode.

I still get out simandl when i feel i need to strengthen up a certain position for piece im playing. Most teachers i've found even if classically orientated also do other stuff for fun or as side earners, like doing jazz gigs etc. I'd recommend getting lessons of a classical guy just for technique. Look at guys like John Patitucci and Christian Mcbride who have a really strong technique that is most likely founded from classical lessons. Next you know you'll be taking your next solo with the bow.

Cheers for the info. Some more experimentation needed. That Jason heath blog was a great help. I think both feet on the ground is the way for me. So far ive found it helps me sit straighter then having one leg raised. Better go drag out the mirror and see what's going on.

I pay €60 for silver stallion Mongolian horse hair but it depends on who you can find to do it. Im currently using pops which IMO is really good for orchestral stuff and not so good for solo stuff. Youll have to try out a lot of different rosins over time to find your favorite.

[url="http://www.silviodallatorre.com/index.php?language=&hauptrubrik=media&ebene=2&thema=303&PHPSESSID=27ba5747b8859b0aa41fecdd4c5435a1"]http://www.silviodallatorre.com/index.php?language=&hauptrubrik=media&ebene=2&thema=303&PHPSESSID=27ba5747b8859b0aa41fecdd4c5435a1[/url] Some older pieces here by students but they translate across very well to bass i thought. And brilliant playing.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/150580744560?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item230f4fd170"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/150580744560?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item230f4fd170[/url] This the bow i have. For the money you really cant get a wood bow to beat it for less then 500-600. Get it re-haired when it arrives and you'll be sorted.

Just picked up a stool yesterday in Ikea as i was getting sick of standing for 3-4 hours at a time. After googling all morning and doing a lot of experimentation im still not sure about how to approach sitting and playing. One of the major problems seems to be my right leg getting in the way of my bow and comfortable getting into thumb position. I went with quite a tall stool at 74cm to the seat height. Im close to 6 2" so thought this would be good but now im thinking it might be too high?? Good things: Vibrato is a breeze as there's no weight on the thumb at all. Im thinking of trying the cello like sitting position but what have you guys found to work?? Pics would be brilliant. Cheers Sam H

Youll need a few lessons anyway. My first real bow was a carbon fiber French bow from yita music on ebay. I think it was £120 and i still have it. Very good bow for the price.

Bows are very personal things so best to try some out. Whats your budget? French or German? Is there enough room on a NS to bow? Just googled some pictures and the radius looks very flat and the space between body and fingerboard looks very small to et any real movement.

Very cool, im not familiar with the original tune but sounds very good. Came across this today as well. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHE1VQfmvvQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHE1VQfmvvQ[/url] The double bass isnt very prominent at times.

Take a trip down to dublin and im sure someone can explain. PM me if you want some teachers numbers.

I stumbled across this this morning. An interesting piece i thought by Peteris Vasks. I'd been listening to his work for a while as ive been expanding my listening into 21st century composers from my usual Beethoven, Brahms, Strauss etc etc. And I'd wanted to listen to stuff that was a bit more Sonic-ally pushed. Anyway a solo double bass piece. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3dSmx5lco"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3dSmx5lco[/url] Ill have to listen to it some more but i found it fascinating. Any other 21st century composers who you enjoy? doesn't have to have any thing to do with double bass. Ive been listening to Peteris Vasks and Esa-Pekka Salonen a lot lately. Also any good solo double bass pieces apart from the usual Bottesini, koussevitzky, vanhal and dittersdorf etc?

I've sort of done the same with my revolution solo except just flipping it on the E side. The piezo element is closer to the wood on one side then other, so flipping it makes it sound pretty different.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1371486988' post='2114457'] I thought you tried to sort feedback at the PA desk? [/quote] Not when you have something that has been turned into a dirty great microphone in the middle of the stage.

[quote name='MandShef' timestamp='1371292894' post='2112199'] We've just done a family concert which included Young Persons Guide. Slightly nerve-racking double bass solo moment!! The kids love it tho ..... you can hear them choosing their favourite instrument. The tuba seemed to get the most votes .... [/quote] Do you still have the solo section at all? Its not in the public domain yet and i cant find it anywhere to buy. When i was about 5 my granny took me to see it in London with i think the phil orchestra and the commentary. Blew my mind.

BBC 4 right now, bit on Shostakovitch.. Brilliant piece of music. Id love to play it one day. Ive done his 5th in a orchestra that was a bit to small but very fun and demanding all the same. One piece i'd love to perfrom one day is Britten's young persons guide to the orchestra. Fell in love with the piece when i first heard about 15 years ago.