Terry M.

The Telecaster/Mondeo analogy is the same insofar as extracting extraordinary things from seemingly ordinary objects. Maybe don't take the Squier/Fodera anology so literal but instead look at the principle. Regardless of bass used the album will still win the Grammy. We also don't know how cheap or expensive some instruments were that appeared on award winning albums do we really?

Exactly what I'm trying to say. Driver not the car. We know for example Lewis Hamilton won't win an F1 race in a Mondeo (as long as the others aren't also driving Mondeos) but a Grammy award winning album produced using bass parts recorded with a £35k Fodera would still have won that same award if the bass was a £200 Squier Affinity.

That's his bass 👍

I'm sure you can see my basic point. Good tone is subjective anyway and with pickup and preamp swaps there can be nothing to separate "lower" end and "higher" end gear tonally. And it's not about Lewis Hamilton losing in a Mondeo to another F1 driver in a Ferrari but more about Lewis driving that Mondeo and transforming it way beyond it's perceived capabilities. That's like suggesting Victor Wooten with his Fodera would wipe the floor with Marcus Miller and his cheap Sire. I'm enjoying this conversation so I hope you're taking it in good spirits 😊

I've heard what some players can do with "mediocre" gear is what I'm getting at. It's the driver not the car.

Are there really mediocre basses or mediocre bass players? If a "mediocre" bass inspires the user and makes them raise their game then isn't that what really matters? OP could get a heap of change from £1.5k if the right bass comes along. Don't think you HAVE to spend the full budget.

Oh we've all done that. As I alluded to earlier though getting a bass because a bassist you admire has one is quite a risk. I admire James Jamerson but a 4 string P bass with sky high action and strung with flats is not on my wishlist personally.

He's probably just not found the right bass to cater to his tastes. The aforementioned switch offers series/single coil/parallel options and is not a Ray but the smaller bodied Sterling with a ceramic pickup. Based on his reason for getting the bass he's better off moving it on I feel.

OP has an American Ernie Ball Sterling with the 3 way switch. You have an Indonesian import model. They are very different.

Separate and apart from my previous post the MM Sterling uses ceramic pickups which definitely aren't everyone's cup of tea. They tend to sound more aggressive than say an alnico equipped Stingray. Whether that's good or bad is subjective however. I had a 5 string version and loved the sound but not the narrow string spacing so it eventually it had to go. Having said that I went to a gig just before Christmas and the bassist had a bass like yours and I didn't enjoy the tone. Whether that was the bass or bad sound engineering I'll never know.

Saw one today in The Bass Gallery. It looks ok but wouldn't be my first choice.

I honestly think this right here might be the issue.

I would say the bolt on has a slightly more punchy sound. As said previously it's a very subtle difference that may well even out in a live mix.

The Thumbs are basses you have to get to know. Interestingly though that even an ageing sick Jack Bruce never gave up on them (to my knowledge at least). They either work for you or they don't. And yes about the 34" scale comment. Despite plenty of evidence to support this the 35" scale argument still stays with us.

Yep I know all about the history of the Streamer shape which ended with Spector eventually not enforcing the licence agreement to copy it 😊

Other than the bodyshape I find the Warwick Streamer and Spector very different in my humble opinion.

I have to agree with this. It totally debunks the "have to be 35 scale" thing which I personally don't subscribe to.

I have a 2001 bolt on Broadneck 5 that I simply will never get rid of. It's fairly heavy however and is happiest when worn with a wide strap up higher rather than lower. It has a sound I've simply never heard replicated from any other bass,which is great if you like that sound. The ergonomics threw me originally as for example the neck wants to hang more horizontal than what is "standard" and the first fret will seem further away than most basses. Once it clicked though with me there was no looking back.

I tried a Spector Euro 5 LX just today and the thick neck was what I liked about it,wasn't a fan of the gloss finish though. The quality however was stellar to the point that I can't imagine how much better a US model is (never played one)

Yes I won't disagree with this as I'm aware how trading works. It's just when you see how individual pieces change hands and the profit margin involved sometimes and how it can skew the market overall. This is why I'm grateful the lower end of the new market has really upped their game. Spending £1.5k over £500 on its own won't make me a better bass player which is all I'm really concerned about at the end of the day.

This is so true. I've lost count the amount of reasonably priced used basses I've seen on say,Gumtree or eBay that get snapped up only to reappear almost immediately on commission sale on some well known site at sometimes double the price. I lost out on a bass last year on Gumtree and before I knew it there it was on Bass Direct at quite a price hike. Definitely has an impact on players without much cash from taking part and finding good deals. I heard this happened to the house market some years back with people buying cheap property with the sole intention to let it out. No idea how true that is but I'm digressing now so...

Hope you bond with it. I've seen the £1.4k price also elsewhere. You sound like you're a fan of passive basses perhaps. How does the wide pickup spacing affect things,is there an inherent mid scoop when they're equally blended?

Ah no worries mate 😊

Markbass preamp? Are we talking about the Cort Rithimic V? 🤔

Reidys Music right? I saw it also. They were that price new not that long ago. They're really expensive now so well done 👏