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[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1341328386' post='1717120'] When we moved to Wales, about four years ago, I went into the local Guitar shop, and we got talking. During our conversation I must have given him the wrong idea because he said "You're obviously a musician." and before I could explain that I was no such thing, that I know no theory, a lad came in for his lesson and I left with him inviting me to a weekly jam they have at the shop. I haven't had the guts to go back since. I would love to play with people again, but I would be fine with chugging along. I want to play something heavy, to really go for it. But I don't have any ambitions to take it anywhere, I don't care about playing live, unless it's to a party full of mates, I don't want to make any money doing it, I don't care if it never got out of the garage, I just want to have a bit of fun with other people playing the same music. But who the hell would want someone like that? And I am cripplingly shy, too. I have no hope. Sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a ramble. [/quote] KB- thank you for your honesty I really appreciate this post, It is mate it's difficult to learn once you have gone a certain direction. I never really got into music because I wanted to be in a band, I decided I wanted to learn Guitar when I was 18. none of my family had ever been able to play anything remotely tuneful.....(apart from my sister once learned to torture a violin at primary school.) ** So i had a go but realised i was horrible at it.....my heart has never been in guitar but i at least gave it a go. then randomly someone let me have a play on a 3/4 knackered old bass & i was hooked. I bought my first bass & a few weeks later i bumped into the lead guitarist of the band i was talking about earlier. In my life bands kind of happen i've never had a chance to choose my life. KB- never expect that no one would want you in a band, it's what you can offer is the prize of the effort people make with you. [size=3]**Ho yes sorry before this was my first attempt at playing a instrument at primary school (True story) I was given a triangle to play at a school parents evening Yes and guess what ? i got it wrong....I was supposed to hit the triangle three times....easy.....no...you hit it once, it spins......i miss the two other times go bright red & never ever tried another instrument again.[/size]

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1341324873' post='1717034'] What you can get away with playing takes bit more into account than just the current chord being played... Although if you want to play it safe then.. look at the notes that are being played on the guitar (this is how I learned). Standard G on guitar is String (Fret) /Note E (3) / G, A(2) / B, D(0) / D, G(0) / G, B(0) / B,E(3) /G So without knowing anything about keys at this point we know G, B and D will fit with a G chord. [/quote] Ok right Ya see I do think Basschat should have a Bass beginners section ! So G,B & D all make up the "G chord" so any of these notes would sound ok & am I right in saying that anything that is not those three would sound poop ? or can you play anything in the G major scale ? and that is ok ? We should have a BC you ask questions forum

[quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1341321508' post='1716962'] I know what you mean. I played bass as a teenager right through to my mid-20s when I jacked it in to spend the next 17 years as a DJ. Also, the 17 years behind the decks taught me a whole lot about groove and "less is more". Keep with it dude. [/quote] I'm glad you said that, being a DJ has taught me loads about timing & attitude towards music. It has been a big influence to me coming back to Bass. There are so many terms & stuff that is talked about on this forum I have literally no idea what it means, For instance I have no idea what a pentatonic scale is or a why the different scales have names that differentiates them from a normal scale.....if there is a normal scale. Here is how little my knowladge goes (gulp): if a dude plays a chord to me (Say for instance G) I know I can play G but I have no idea what other notes go with that chord.....I literally don't know.......I mean can you play anything ? .......say can i play G then D or would that sound wrong .......right now if someone says play G i'll just pump that note till the chord change. But i've seen other bass players play G.....then a whole lot more creating their own grooved bass lines that sound like a tune all of it's own.....how do they do that ? how do they know what to play ? this is all that I want to know, then I can stop this weird self doubt I am going through i suppose

Cheers guys some interesting comments & views......Gust0o I don't ever disregard peoples views especially if they make me laugh. In a way I would love just to sit with a teacher & ask him questions, no playing just questions.......some of them would be mind numbingly dumb, some would probably be complex but I have scowered the books I have & just cant find the answers to my questions. Music (To me) is a awesome Yin-Yan puzzle playing music is fun, hilarious, creative & beautiful, the dark side is the bewildering black lake of confusing hieroglyphs that is the theory behind it all........I will never truly understand the laws that I think exist in music but a little understanding would be useful .....as I realise I know bugger all. I get what you all say here......i need to get out of my comfort zone. i need to bloody wake up to myself a bit & realise that music is not something to be feared. maybe [b]this[/b] is what i was hoping to hear lol

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1341320400' post='1716922'] The thrash metal doesn't work for you anymore, fair enough but surely there's other styles that you would like to play? [/quote] Yeh there is, I still listen to heavy music, but my heart is not an angry one any more, so I'm more buzzing from stuff like "Tosca's- Deli 9" and the "Cinematic Orchestra- Everyday" I like different things for different moods. it all depends with me. i have become a lover of all kinds of music so the idea of staying with one style makes me feel like I'm trapped......if that makes sense ?!?! Maybe I need to jump in & be as recklessly brave as my youth but with the laid back knowladge of me now......the combination could be at least more interesting than sitting at home playing to myself

Yeh I have gone the exact opposite to what I used to be. strange how life changes you

Here is my musical history, regret at my past arrogance & the way that your past jumps up to bite you. I used to be in a early Metallica style thrash metal band, I joined them by sheer luck one day after I had only owned my first bass for a few weeks, I didn't know what I was doing but was determined to learn what I had to just to get in a band. It was mainly well chosen covers with the odd original but through hard work and pure guts we managed to get a fair few gigs and even started headlining a few events. The down side to the momentum was that fact that I only played what I was supposed to & never really learned what I was doing. The band got loads of attention in the metal scene & we were known, I started to feel like I was a musical numpty, although I could play some very fast bass lines finger style (This was something that made me well known back then) I didn't know how to jam with anyone & I would often dodge offers to jam with people. This was my well kept secret. the fingers were nimble but the useless lack of knowladge was like my handicap. frustration took me too far one day & i made my excuses and left the band. I went my own way and after a few failed attempts at getting various projects off the ground I left a band that was riddled with ego's & strangely ended up being a DJ in the underground Acid techno scene never to join a band again. Then, out of the blue I was contacted by the old band because they had recently lost their bassist so they wanted to know if I wanted to re-join them. When I was in the band we used to have a real good laugh & gigged loads, Looking back I realise now that I was really the main driving force behind the band & took them a long way, after I left they lost momentum but they were happy as they were so no big issues there. Anyway during the Jubilee break I was booked in to meet them for a 1-2 hour jamming session & everyone was really buzzing about the old line up getting back together, I learned the new set list, my other half was very excited as she has never seen me play in a band (I ducked out of being in bands & it's her gentle persuasion has got me to pick up the bass again). So everything was set to be explosive. Then we played, and I hated every minuet of it, I'm not disrespecting rock bass players in anyway with what I'm saying here (If it wasn't for thrash & rock music I would have never picked up an instrument, I still love the music, but I don't play it any-more) but I was bored, bored by playing open E for what seems like an hour, bored by the same basic bass lines that I used to hammer out when I was 19.........After the session the guys were full of adrenalin & asked if we wanted to go for a few pints and the conversation was buzzing about where we are going from here, I felt like I was not being honest and my own feelings of guilt was doing my head in. After we left the pub my other half guessed what was happening with me as she could see I wasn't happy (She can read me like a book). I realised a long time ago that I never learned anything of real value about theory or even took bass lessons, because of this I am a very restricted bass player & really struggle to understand some of the basic fundamental things that (I know) most people take for granted. I have slowly but surely started filling in the blank spots of my own ignorance I have never filled in my youth by reading books and trying to correct what I have missed out on, a task which I am finding really difficult as I'm dyslexic (This is not an excuse but it's hard work reading something 5 times to realise I know this bit) so it's a frustratingly slow going. I'm not really expecting anything of value from this thread but I just wanted to speak about my utter disappointment in myself and lack of forward motion, I feel trapped in the fact that if I go backwards (I feel like re-joining the band I mentioned earlier is backwards motion for some reason)I will never fully understand the beauty of the instrument I love so much & I feel like I have abused for so long, by not understanding the capabilities of the Bass I am letting myself down & will never be able to play in the way i want. Don't get me wrong when I play some of the stuff I write myself, I like what I hear (Hayley often says I play classical guitar-like style on 4 string bass). I play a very gentle styles & I feel like i've found a style I love playing.....but I don't know the notes or even mechanics of what I'm playing to make the style of any use to anyone. The frustration I'm feeling is a strange sensation......it's like I have to go back & learn to walk even though I can run. At the age of 36 I'm now a willing student in musical lore. I Have been blinkered for too long & now I think it's time to really do the right thing by the instrument that has been amazingly kind to me. And I hope this is the start of better times........as hope is everyone best mate. If anyone actually reads this, I just want to thank you for your time in actually taking an interest in my ramblings, please don't read the above as a negative statement, it's just what is on my mind at the moment. Thank you for letting me think aloud

I bought a Zoom MRS-4 4 track from Jon. All is good would definitely be happy to deal with again...... Cheers Jon

Random as it may sound i've just decided to get an aquarium ! may be interested in this.......let me have a think but I am interested

Hi-Fi club is a fantastic venue. been there a few times. Good atmosphere & nice layout

I was selling some none music related stuff on Gumtree last month received a message asking for my mobile number which i ignored & carried on communicating on e-bay. Eventually after a few messages was passed i rang him from work & agreed a time & date. Although i was suspicious because of his name, he turned up & was one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet & paid full asking price. Sometimes although people come across as a little dodge, we are all (Buyers & sellers) very jaded nowadays.

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' timestamp='1339536981' post='1690316'] In defence of Rob Trujillo.... Sod Metallica. Check out Suicidal Tendencies & Infectious Grooves. [/quote] Exactly what I was gonna say. I still love sarsipious ark Awsome bass lines in that album. Unfortunately bass lines & modern Metallica do not go together, I still feel like the band are not using him correctly or know how to get the best from him which is a shame, he still looks like he is employed by Metallica rather than being a band member

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1339765733' post='1693982'] Over to Fumps live at the scene... [/quote] thank you Charic Well today has seen some harrowing Scenes here ladies & Gentlemen ! Earlier on today it looks as though several imp like creatures lost control of a high speed piano that has careered straight through the wall of a full [s]green house[/s] drinking establishment . The whole place was in dispensary as all 5 member's of the public who was inside escaped with a serious chafing ! Seriously though i think it was a case of poor planning, a school buy error on the venues part. A band is there to play not move furniture round & not have to work round someone who cannot plan correctly. Tempers have been stretched & that's basically it. If you book a people, pay them that is all

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1338734356' post='1678588'] Did two double bass gigs in one day, yesterday, one in Petersfield and another in Hayes. 4 x 50 minute sets over about 7 hours in total. A bit sore by the end but, after a night's sleep, all is well and certainly nothing is out of the ordinary. Just as well because I have another gig tomorrow [/quote] Bilbo you are a Terminator of the double bass world.......lol I was happy with my first 1 hour playing session with no pain, i have a long way to go but small steps for me is how i intend to do this

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****Scuttles in like a shamed puppy**** I Recently had the utter pleasure of dealing with Neil regarding a Stagg EUB & i have to say i am totally over the moon with the dealings i had with this kind gentleman. He really is a top bloke & is completely trust worthy. 20 out of 10 marks from me Cheers Neil you have made a slighty nutty bloke happy & have opened so many more roads for me. Thank you again Gav

Fwooor I want one

Hi Scott loved the lesson, i have now subscribed mate Gav

I do a weird warm up exercise that is like doubling back down the neck G string down to E that i've done for years. I usually do this for a min or two until my fingers & fore arm loosens up. I'm not sure how to describe it but it has always worked for me....looks like I'm the only one to do exercises here lol If your interested i could probably tab it & Pm you it

Been following this thread with great interest. Last night i followed all the advice on here & had no pain at all! happy bunny now, i feel i'm a little closer to getting it. cheers guys

Well i think intentions are good.....i tried to enter but the link is not working (On the Facebook Page) .....just my luck

[quote name='artisan' timestamp='1337363739' post='1658920'] good man it's adictive isn't it. if you ever want to come over & have a go on my DB you're welcome anytime mate. [/quote] Cheers dude we shoudl meet up for a beer one day, that would be a good laugh. if your ever in Leeds for any reason, give me a shout fella. cheers again for all your patience & well just being a tip top fella

Lol one day, I'm hoping that as I'd love to own a propper double bass. But for the time being I'm going to do my utmost to do the stagg justice. So for now guys I'm one of the stagg clan ***puts hands on head to do an impression of a stagg*** Moo!!! Aww I'm not sure what noise a Stagg makes. Erm....quack !!!!

I was in hysterics last night, i was trying to put the arms in the holes but because, it was unfamiliar to me i was not sure how hard to push it so they just kept falling off lol

[quote name='geoffbassist' timestamp='1337346259' post='1658565'] Great news Fumps. Enjoy building up those calluses :-) [/quote] Yes last night i was trying my best lol And my left shoulder muscle lol