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Pink Floyd "Money"?

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1451297686' post='2939313'] In decent recording studios, they always have a set of standard hi fi speakers, that they can play the final mix through. After all, that's what most people will be listening to the recording on. [/quote] So it's done by the pros. I may be on the right track.

Great topic! So many to choose from! Some of my fun favs are Pink Floyd's "Money", Steve Miller's "The Joker", and the theme song of the "Barney Miller" TV show. Toss in "Movin' on Up", the theme song of "The Jefferson's" TV show .

[quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1451223006' post='2938877'] i used to have an issue where by my recordings would song boomy on my hifi and in the car, but over time i got used to which frequencies were causing the issue and i now know where to compensate to make the mix sound balanced on external sources. unless you have a perfectly balanced set of monitors and perfectly treated room you will never get perfection straight off the bat. you need to get used to your room and set up and compensate in the areas that are lacking. also, if you mix for long periods your ears will get fatigued, so what sounds ok to you may sound like arse just beacause you have got used to it. stepping away from time to time for a cup of tea in another room of the house can make a massive difference. [/quote] Yes, getting used to the sound, I do do that. I think it does help sometimes to put it on a shelf and clear yourself of it. I'm often surprised at how different it sounds after picking it back up.

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1451214068' post='2938792'] I used to have this problem with my monitors, I could not get a good mix when using them. I just knew the sound of my hifi speakers so well that I preferred listening through them, or through headphones. Friends with studios used to tell me to keep both sets of speakers plugged in, and use the hifi to test the mix regularly, and also to give your ears a refresh by switching between them a lot. You get used to monitors after a while, but you need to work with them for quite a long time to get to know what's going on, so having your normal speakers nearby as constant reference will help. [/quote] I think that's a great idea. Using both the studio monitors and the the hi-fi as well. Good tip.

[quote name='Drax' timestamp='1451208801' post='2938753'] Ah crap. That really wasn't my intention, apologies. Well there's no such thing as a bad question and I'll bet whatever you'll ask I've asked before Happy to field anything on PM [/quote] No fault to you, I'm just a little thick . Comes with being American, I suppose .

She was so bad. I love her.

[quote name='Drax' timestamp='1451116221' post='2938323'] That's the message. It's all about understanding the relativity. I mainly use NS10s - which are pretty raw and nasty, and took some getting used to - but you know if you get it sounding good on them (esp the bass), it will sound good most places. Getting a track sounding 'good' on biased monitors confuses the picture, and IMHO makes it much harder to understand the mix. Different stereos will boost differently, and once you start compressing into MP3 / pressing to vinyl / etc - the shortcomings come through. There are people using very coloured monitors and making it work - but if you're starting from scratch it's a tougher gig to get right. Also really don't underestimate the role of paying for proper mastering. No matter how good your studio set up is, you can really only take the track so far (and one benefit is it will help fill out the bottom / mid you're finding lacking currently). If you're serious about the tune, it's worth every penny. (repeatedly edited through a boxing day hangover.. ) [/quote] Sheesh - that whole post went over my head! I'd ask you to explain it in layman's terms but I'm afraid I still wouldn't understand it!

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1451055796' post='2938056'] If so, get off your computer and go and enjoy family time. Play with the kids, dogs, cats, whatever. If you are alone, then heartfelt apologies, things will get better I hope. Note: this is a tongue in cheek post. I wish everyone happiness X HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY! [/quote] Bah!! Humbug!!

[quote name='Leonard Smalls' timestamp='1451036076' post='2937918'] It depends entirely on how your stereo is "voiced"... Most speakers, and even some amplifiers, don't have a flat frequency response as they're meant to sound "nice", or to make up for other shortcomings. So in practice they'd tend to have a hump in the 50-100Hz range to make them sound more bassy, and some now have a hump above 10KHz in order to make them sound more "hifi". So using your hifi for monitoring is perfectly possible, so long as you're aware of what the relative sound of your stereo is. I use my stereo for monitoring, but the amp's a Bryston (like the BBC use at Maida Vale) and the speakers are Leema - built by an ex-BBC sound mixer who also used to work at Air Studios and are designed to be pretty well flat from around 30Hz to 20kHz... However, it doesn't mean my mixes are any good - it's all down to practice and having a better ear than mine! [/quote] Informative post. Thanks. But I've got to ask...if stereos add "nice bumps" why bother with flat studio monitors which won't represent the end product?

[quote name='moonbass' timestamp='1451025780' post='2937885'] What studio monitors do you use? And how/where do you have them set up? I used to use my hifi before I could afford decent studio monitors, and the results were fine, but good monitors well set up, and ones that you know how they relate to the finished product are better. You do have to reference the finished product on various systems (hifi, car stereo, iphone etc) and this might be the phenomenon you are referring to. I have to say, I increasingly use decent headphones for mixing now for convenience though. [/quote] I guess my monitors are pretty low end (Alesis Elevate 3). That probably has a lot to do with it. I do record with headphones too but I find my ears ringing sometimes after sessions. I have a tendency to creep the volume with phones.

Seems anything I've recorded using my "regular" studio monitors sounds starkly different when I play it on my home or car stereo. Mainly, I get a loss of mid range and bottom end. What if I used my home stereo as as my studio monitors? I tried it. It works pretty well. I get to hear what my recording sounds like through a typical standard sound system. Has anyone else tried this? Thoughts?

Glam if forced a choice. Much more emphasis on melody.

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1450804282' post='2936057'] I think about three of my titles are usable. "One more train to ride" is IMHO not bad. For a whole stream of song titles, getting a few usable ones isn't a bad hit rate, IMHO. [/quote] Yeah, I like that one. Congrats on conjuring a decent title that hasn't been taken. As for myself one of the few I've penned and haven't seen online is "Cigarette Vodka". Surprised it's not been claimed. Everyone, I suspect, knows what that is - the morning after the party drink on the coffee table you wish you'd passed on .

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1450793228' post='2935918'] Just use the first line of the chorus. Of the last line of the chorus. Or the first line of the first verse. Or the last line of the last verse. . [/quote] Good advice. I'll try it.

1. Can you pass a piss test? 2. Are you opposed to premarital sex? 3. Do you believe in a divine deity? 4. Will you promise to be home before 2 am? If the band can answer yes to all ditch them.

I should have been more clear...it's nearly impossible to come up with an original song name that doesn't suck! Apologies to anyone I offended

Every time I think of a name for a song I recorded I google it and it's already been used!!! Am I lacking in creativity or do other guys here deal with this too?

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1450612453' post='2934256'] All the bands that are using it seem to think so too. [/quote] Apparently the name goes way back. The 13th Floor Elevators debuted in 1965.

She's verily shocked at the expenditure...but then she thinks of things she might have quid pro quo...

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1450527485' post='2933621'] I originally wrote the word "waste" but of course, any time spent on your instrument is worthwhile. I ask because I picked up a bass this morning ( I keep one and a practice amp in the lounge) and started playing along to stuff on You tube. Ya mo be there. M.MacD Together again, Dave Koz Easy lover, Collins & Bailey Paradise, Smooth operator, Sade' Just the two of us, Bill Withers / Grover Washington Room 335, Larry Carlton Midnight at the Oasis (BNH version) I play none of these numbers in any bands but I have a tendency to play along with all this MOR smooth stuff rather than actually practice the stuff I do play live (Rock, soul, disco etc) Looking at that list, I obviously need to be in a covers band called the "elevators" [/quote] To the question in your post header...ALL THE TIME ! The "Elevators", a very cool band name !!

I'm humbled, I'm giving up music.

[quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1450369328' post='2932129'] Hi folks, I was just reading another thread which got me to thinking about why I took up playing bass in the first place. It's funny really, since its not an obvious instrument to go for. I guess for me it arose as an interested after seeing lots of live music and being really impressed by a few of the players. Also, I think bass seemed a little more 'exotic' than guitar, which was played by everyone and their mother. So, if you feel like sharing I'd be really interested to hear what reasons you had for taking up bass in the first place? [/quote] Actually I started on both bass and guitar, but like you I realized some time ago that bass was where it was at for me. The big fat sound, the beautiful lines, and yes, that not everyone does a bass. I've never looked back. I still have a couple of my old guitars hanging around. I pick them up every now and then.

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1450008153' post='2928686'] We already do. Bones from Compressorhead: [size=2][url="https://vine.co/v/eEOau51jArF"]https://vine.co/v/eEOau51jArF[/url][/size] [/quote] Oh my God - the end days are truly upon us.

I was all ready to post some of my fav bass intros. But they were already covered. What I didn't expect was that so many other great ones I'd not known of would be here. Consider me floored.