Hellzero

As a fretless bass player myself, I love the most natural sounding tone coming out of the speakers, that's why I bought a GR Bass AeroTech Full Carbon Combo 800 coupled to a GR Bass AeroTech Full Carbon Cabinet 112+.

I also have two fretless Leduc U-basses (one 4 and one 6) with a Fishman BP-100 twin piezo pickup and magnetic pickup(s) going to an internal Fishman PowerChip, which is a buffer preamp allowing to split (stereo cable with two mono jacks on the other end) or sum both signals (the usual suspect mono lead).

As I wanted to have two very distinct tones from the magnetics and piezos, I ended up buying a GR Bass Dual Pre, which is a twin preamp with two separate identical EQ's, a compressor working on both channels and a distortion section working on channel 2 only.

I then go out to the GR Bass combo switched in the "Pure" position thus having a non really colouring powered cab with just a gain and a master, both set at noon as I manage the power on the preamp pedal with the two master volumes.

And it's working the way I want, with a very rich and deep tone on the piezo nearly emulating a double bass tone and a fretless tone with loads of mwah possibilities (if you want so but it will be linked to the way you play with these U-Basses and their free floating soundboard) on the magnetic pickup(s), so channel 1 is double bass like and channel 2 is typical fretless tone, but I can also have the two channels mixed or bypassed or muted and add distortion (on channel 2) and/or compression.

So yes, @Linus27 I'm using something quite close to what you described, but for other reasons than you.

And I still have the opportunity to use the combo as a standard combo with its own EQ, when disengaging the "Pure" switch.

Furthermore, the whole rig is super lightweight.

This GR Bass Dual Pre is also working really well with my other combo: an old original Hevos Midget 10 with everything at noon.

Here is the preamp out of the box and it's bloody complete with even 2 D.I.'s (one for each channel), an fx loop, an aux in, a parallel out (non treated signal) and an headphones out with its own bass, treble and volume:

Too bad @Happy Jack doesn't make the flying double bass trick anymore. 🤪

Joe Morello as well as Dave Brubeck are both left foot counters.

One of my all time favourite masterpiece and that moving time drum solo has always amazed me.

Thanks so much @Dad3353 !

Here is the manual for the complete range of the GP12(X) Series 6 iterations and also some of the GP7.

There was a preamp available at the time named GP12X.

Trace Elliot GP12 Series 6 Manual.pdf

There's also this one @michele, but I don't where you are in Italy.

https://www.mercatinomusicale.com/mm/a_trace-elliot-gp12_id7319863.html?stkn=bD3728N2y8n7bS58#

It's not a preamp as it has send/return jacks.

Worth asking a photo of the back to know which model it really is...

10 minutes ago, michele said:

Anything I should check or to beware as regarding the AH250?

Your back.

Excellent basses, I had 3 sixers.

GLWYS, Mustapha.

@sandy_r : Is your bass a Kubicki Ex Factor?

After receiving my long ordered and awaited Leduc U-Basse 6 fretless for my birthday last month, I'm GAS free, having owned and played more than 400 basses and a lot of amps.

I'm now in the process of selling what I don't need, you know those useless bargains, not for gasing again, but because I don't want anything else and just like for my Hi-Fi system, after a very long quest, everything is settled, to my taste.

I really love my actual lightweight basses and lightweight combos as I get exactly the tone I hear in my head and can move them and play them without breaking my bad back.

So yes, I'm GAS free.

The open string intonation is the scale and is as mentioned 34 inches, so a very standard one. 😉

Adam O'Farrill sounds like a huge fan of Paolo Fresu. 😉

I guess you mean the far end of the bridge where the ball is anchoring?

@sandy_r: What's your bass?

I've used White Nylon's on headless and headed basses without any issue at all.

My Leduc Masterpiece MP 628 SF (34 inches scale) is fitted with regular long scale White Nylon's since a year or two as they really last very long.

Check these photos made recently, no signs of wear and tear:

Try the LaBella White Nylon's, they are lighter in tension than any other nylon taped strings and sound terrific on fretless basses with very good mids for that mwah we are almost all after.

In fact, these are totally alive strings compared to the other more dull sounding nylon taped strings, because inside are roundwound stainless strings.

2 hours ago, EssexBuccaneer said:

I’d just like a powerful bass amp that doesn’t require a forklift to move from home-car-venue and back again. 
 

One day I’ll invent one and make my millions. 

You won't make a penny as they already exist: check GR Bass AeroTech Carbon Fiber series or the Natural Fiber series, you'll be amazed by the weight and power.

I own and play a GR Bass AeroTech Full Carbon Combo 800 (Watts at 4 Ohms) coupled, when needed) to a GR Bass AeroTech Full Carbon Cabinet 112+ (450 Watts at 8 Ohms): plenty of power and total weight of both is ... 14.5 kilos (do the maths to convert it in ancient money).

55 minutes ago, Misdee said:

I was listening to those two albums back in 1985, and I still love them now. Both such an inspiration to me as an aspiring bass player. 

 

I remember my bass teacher playing me The Man With The Horn back in 1982 and extolling the virtues of the then largely unknown Marcus Miller. Credit to him, he knew how to spot a talent. He also did a remarkable job of analysing and recreating Marcus's playing style and techniques just from listening to the records and watching a South, Bank Show special  on TV about Miles Davis. Most people didn't even have VCRs in 1982, and YouTube was not even dreampt of. Such a different skill set required than nowadays when we have unrestricted access to information about practically everything.

 

 

 

1982 or 1985?

And Tony Grey too, but my favourite is, of course, Anthony Jackson: simply amazing groove.

I was 20 years old in 1985, so for sure Yello Stella on one side and Uzeb Between the Lines on the other side.

And another cassette with Joe Jackson Big World on one side and The Pogues Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash on the other and singing (more certainly yelling) like a mad man in the car when Dirty Old Town was playing.

Thanks @tauzero, I'm so tired explaining this phenomenon again and again and again.

Just make a real shielding with everything star grounded, so you'll stop acting as an antenna and suddenly everything will become dead quiet.

Fodera to sell their instruments at the right price which is a third of what they are asking.

Free cheese for everyone.

On 05/09/2023 at 16:13, Baloney Balderdash said:

Cortex coating

Interesting, so they are taking brains out to coat strings!

It's Gore-Tex, not Cortex. 🤦🏻‍♂️

So it's the quite same material enabling humidity to get out but not in that you find in clothes or shoes...

8 minutes ago, Alberto Rigoni said:

Anyway seems no one knows how can get exactly that one

Why don't you simply ask the seller, Alberto?

Zimmerly Silly Bass .....Fretless extended range custom bass https://reverb.com/item/27101

2 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

 

Yes I did. AFAIK the Marleaux version of the Pagelli Bass was a different instrument to the Diva, hence my comment.

So you didn't read.

10 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

 

IIRC there were some Pagelli badged basses built by Marleaux. Certainly when I asked Pagelli about getting a "Golden Bass" made he pointed me in the direction of Marleaux who then ignored all my emails.

1 hour ago, Hellzero said:

In fact Marleaux has been inspired by the Pagelli to make his Diva model, and the Pagelli shown above with the volume control à la Leduc was made as a special edition very small run (5 instruments IIRC) by ... Gerald Marleaux himself.

 

Looping the loop. 😉

Do you sometimes read what others write?