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[quote name='Mog' post='866147' date='Jun 13 2010, 04:46 PM']Very true Silddx. it is uncommon. Happened us twice. There was no monitors for the drummer in both cases. Easily sorted. Bottom bass cab was turned towards him and the guitard ran an extra 2x12 and placed it facing the kit also. I'm thinking about going sans backline in the Academy (Dublin) next week. Should be good for a laugh!! If Geddy can do it!![/quote] Absolutely! There is no way we could play the Krupa gigs without decent monitoring as we use backing tracks which the drummer needs in a sidefill. The Kit gigs are generally smaller venues and sometimes monitoring, the whole PA in fact, can be a bit crap. But it's all live so we can get away with it and still put on a good show. Good luck at the Academy gig mate!

[quote name='Mog' post='866121' date='Jun 13 2010, 04:30 PM']Just gonna jump back in quickly. For studio use high end digital gear will work fine [u]IF[/u] the studio is up to standard and the production and mastering are top notch.I know a guy who uses a Digitech 2120 Artist for his recordings and it sounds great. Better than his 5150 combo and an Sm58 IMO. For live work, with a little tweaking, something like a Pod X3 is more than suitable as the punters and most of the musicians wont know the difference. The problem is on larger stages if there is a lack of monitors. Its all about what you are willing to spend at the end of the day. Modelling: At one end you have boss or zoom, at the the other Eventide. Amps: Low end you have say Behringer, at the high end something like an Eden or Glockenklang.[/quote] I agree with your first and last points But I have never been on a large stage with inadequate monitoring. Been on a few small ones with almost no monitoring, I just have to put up with that once in a while.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='866085' date='Jun 13 2010, 04:00 PM']Just for comparison.[/quote] Woah! What the hell is that?! That's a whole lot of music compressed to 1.6 Meg! Is that how it's supposed to sound? I might be being a total dumb arse but are you demonstrating what an mp3 at a tiny bit rate sounds like? No offence intended if that's how your band actually sounds. I did a gig recently with two guys who sounded a bit like that.

[quote name='umph' post='866080' date='Jun 13 2010, 03:58 PM']+1 i thought he was refering to the guitar being digital i didn't even notice any bass on the clip with laptop speakers[/quote] The bass is low in the mix, and with very little high end. You're right umph, it was primarily the guitar I was referring to, I should have made that point clearer.

Agree with Mog, very poor production. I'm wondering it the fact it's an mp3 means it's all going to sound digital to some extent. But Follow was all the real thing, mic'ed amps on guitar and bass, recorded to a Studer 2-inch tape machine. The guitar was a weird cheap tranny karaoke amp with Boss a DS-1 distortion. Bass was Stingray into (I think) an Ampeg.

OK, how about this one. Does it sound more like digital, or the real thing? Sorry, this music is a bit heavier

[quote name='Marvin' post='866007' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:55 PM']Wish I never posted that now, she's like the who's got the cream now .[/quote] Well, she's raised a very interesting debate about whether you can tell if an amp's been mic'ed or DIed and if it sounds more pleasing, although as Johnston said, it is all entirely subjective.

[quote name='Marvin' post='865989' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:39 PM']Mrs Marvin said, and I quote ' it sounds like it's been farted about with!' But she's a euphonium player, so what does she know (well a lot actually and she's got a handy right hook! ) I think though that may have more to do with DI and not micing amps, possibly, as she said she didn't feel any feel from where it was recorded 'sounds like it's gone right to the desk' she said. Not very well explained but I hope you get the gist. For me it did sound a little, well clinical. But let me have more of a think and I may come up with a better description.[/quote] Your mrs is absolutely correct, it's all DI. No mics were involved.

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='865971' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:31 PM']Yeah, but do you think you would have noticed had he not told you it was a digital amp model?[/quote] I haven't told you it's a digital amp model

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='865968' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:28 PM']That's a lovely recording, Nigel Is it some of your stuff? I found the bass was too buried in beneath the mix for my tastes, but it did sound tone modelled, yes. Can't quite explain why, but the notes felt a little too 'fuzzy' around the edges. Not very clearly defined - Some kind of delay in the digital processing or something like that? Rich.[/quote] Thanks Rich I'm not happy with the mix either. I knocked it together over the last couple of days and rushed it a bit. I was a bit over the top with the effects too, there's a lot of delay, reverb and flanger. It's not mastered, that's just the tracks mixed, no master compression or anything. I'll hold my comments on the sound for now, I'm interested in what people's perceptions are as to whether they think it's digital or the real thing. Although it's recorded to a digital desk and it's an MP3. Thanks again. EDIT: I'm not just talking about the bass, sorry I should have said, I played the guitar too. The drums are an Alesis SR16 though. I think the reason the bass sounds a bit undefined is because it's a fretless with black nylon tapes on. It has very little attack and a fairly fast decay.

[quote name='Johnston' post='865955' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:16 PM']I can hear the uber fart breaking up at around 200 cyclics an hour:P Tell me this to the ones who say they can tell the difference between the analogue and digital. Can your audience??? Or maybe more to the point would they care??[/quote] To my mind, the test is whether it sounds pleasing or not.

Does any of this sound "digital"? What is your opinion of the tones? Does it sound pleasing or irritating to the ears? Version 2 mixed better (I reckon and with new bass.

Have you looked at "bassists wanted" on here? I found one of my bands though it.

If it's an old bass and the neck has no been removed for a long time, move it just tiny bit once you've removed the screws to make sure it's not going to pull any paint finish off around the neck socket. Sometimes the neck will "bind" a bit to the paint if it's a tight fit and you risk pulling a bit of it away. You should be ok though.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' post='863890' date='Jun 11 2010, 12:08 AM']me neither. I'm not too clued up on the newcamerican series as the active circuits don't interest me and there isn't a normal P bass. Unless I'm wrong.[/quote] They're just normal passive basses with a few sensible improvements like better hardware, Hipshot tuners, rolled edge fingerboards and a carbon reinforcement inside the neck. They are the best standard Fenders I've tried, lovely players, good sounds.

[quote name='Mog' post='863305' date='Jun 10 2010, 02:25 PM']I was one of those guys who wouldn't use digi but not anymore. (Cheers Silddx ).[/quote] Hah hah! Glad you made it, pilgrim

[quote name='The Burpster' post='862399' date='Jun 9 2010, 05:41 PM']Silddx, Oddly I just bought a load of kit from HD and they were spot on! Included in that were 3 D-tuners that are all now fitted. I had to strip mine and put the correct design key in as I wanted to keep the PRS ears in them (dead easy to do) and I did rebuild mine with Lithium greas but onlybecause I have it. Vaseline will work just as well but only use tiny amounts and it will befine.... Enjoy, these are great bits of kit![/quote] Brilliant, thanks for this. I fitted it last night and I'll properly install it tomorrow. Really looking forward to it, it will make my life on stage much easier. Cheers.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='863272' date='Jun 10 2010, 02:03 PM']But did your sound absolutely have to be 100% that Mesa sound? Surely a good bass sound is good enough for most situations? Also do you ever have to use anyone else's amp in a live situation for space saving or facilitate change-over times. What do you do then? I don't get this "the presets didn't sound right" thing. The presets will only sound right to the person who programmed them. Everyone has a slightly different idea of what a good sound is. I they didn't the only control you'd need on an amp would be the volume one. All the good modelling devices have the controls right there on the front panel, nicely labelled for you to adjust. Surely you don't try out a traditional amp with the controls only in the positions you found them?[/quote] Beautifully stated BRX

[quote name='TankJon' post='863244' date='Jun 10 2010, 01:46 PM']It was in a live situation. It was the factory default Treadplate setting on a rackmount POD into a ss power amp and 4x12. It was a good sound but it certainly wasn't a Mesa sound. A valve poweramp would have helped a lot though to be honest. Im not anti modelling amps but I did try the Line6 HD100 valve head and just didn't like 90% of the default sounds. I say 90% because the crunch tones were pretty awesome but I wasn't fond of the high gain or clean sounds.[/quote] Thanks mate. As has been said a number of times, the factory default patches are demo-only showcase exaggerations, one would be 90% mad to ever use the majority of them for any serious application. One or two are ok, but forget most of the hi gain patches, they are appalling.

[quote name='cheddatom' post='863147' date='Jun 10 2010, 12:12 PM']In a live situation I don't think anything is going to substitute a big bass amp behind you rumbling your sack (unless you know for sure the venue has amazing on stage monitoring). That could be driven by a modelling pre-amp though. I think where the modelling really shows it's quality is when recorded. I'd be interested to try Kiwi's test but I don't have speakers at work.[/quote] I did a gig recently and they had huge [url="http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com/products_sw15.htm"]http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com/products_sw15.htm[/url] wedges that were stomach churningly powerful. It sounded amazing on stage.

[quote name='TankJon' post='862880' date='Jun 10 2010, 08:28 AM']Having owned a Triple Rec and a Rectoverb I can say 100% that the Line6 approximation sounds nothing like the real thing. It totally lacks the Mesa's aggression and punch.[/quote] In what situation? As has been said, it's down to the quality and attention to detail of the patch. But maybe you are talking about the Line 6 amp, I keep thinking about the POD.

[quote name='mcgraham' post='862532' date='Jun 9 2010, 07:32 PM']The single biggest improvement I ever did for my Geddy was to stick a set of DiMarzio Model J pickups in it. Completely transformed the bass and is usable in every gig I've ever done. There are other great pickups out there for sure, but I'd like to give a big thumbs up to the DiMarzio Model J pickup set.[/quote] I had DiMarzio Ultra Jazzes in My Wilkins Jazz and they were wonderful.

[quote name='BurritoBass' post='862521' date='Jun 9 2010, 07:19 PM']The strings you use already are GREAT for dub & if it ain't broke... [/quote] Top marks

[quote name='tino' post='862499' date='Jun 9 2010, 07:01 PM']They any good for dub???? I usually use tru sound 88's[/quote] I do big deep dance bass and a bit of dub-reggae. DR BBs are fine, the Hi Beams were a bit bass-light for me but I just dialled in more low end on the POD.

[quote name='bubinga5' post='861352' date='Jun 8 2010, 07:07 PM']Just wondering what everyone thought of pink basses...i have the chance to bag a stunning shell pink custom shop jazz with gold hardwear..its a 62, with the most amazing flame maple neck.....Hope Nic doesnt mind me talking about his bass!!! Any thoughts... its exactly the same as this but with gold hardwear[/quote] I certainly would. I have a furry pink Daisy Rock strap ready for one in fact