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I love DR Strings, they are some of the very best out there and the best I personally have used. I use DR Black Beauties. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=89542"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=89542[/url]

[quote name='tino' post='862442' date='Jun 9 2010, 06:08 PM']I'm hopeful to receive one of these in the next few days.....aint had one for over 20 years but thought....go on give it another go.... I want to modify it a little and wondered if there were 3 things available off the shelf that would give an immediate improvement then in your opinion what would they be???? Pickup...? Tuner....? Bridge...? You tell me Cheers T[/quote] That looks like a Jazz width neck. People are raving about the John East P-Retro. TBH, I don't think anything else really needs improving on the new American Standards. The ones I've played are really good, I was knocked out by a Jazz a couple of weeks ago. Great bass.

[quote name='ped' post='862398' date='Jun 9 2010, 05:40 PM']Guess which of these is recorded with an all valve Trace V4 combo, which is through a Roland Vbass unit and which is through a POD! 1 - [url="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85432/jam%20clips/Half%20moon%20short.mp3"]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85432/jam%20clips/...oon%20short.mp3[/url] 2 - [url="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85432/USB%203/Canti%27s%20Wrap.mp3"]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85432/USB%203/Canti%27s%20Wrap.mp3[/url] 3 - [url="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85432/Clown%20Killa.mp3"]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85432/Clown%20Killa.mp3[/url] ped[/quote] 1. Silk Gloves 2. No Gloves 3. Gardening Gloves Oops, wrong thread

[quote name='umph' post='862217' date='Jun 9 2010, 03:35 PM']come try out some of my amps cranked and say you don't like the distortion from them![/quote] I'd love to, and I believe you. I loved the distortion from my Fender twin and a Blackstar HT-Dual, as I did my Marshall JCM 900 with a compressor pedal. But I'm also just as happy with my X3 LIVE and I can get virtually any sound I want from it as my moods or needs dictate. BTW, the quote of mine you cited wasn't aimed at you, hope you realise that

That's fabulous Captain! Great to see you doing so well! Congratulations!

[quote name='dlloyd' post='862156' date='Jun 9 2010, 02:58 PM']I ditched my Twin because it was heavy and unreliable, and went for one of the Fender/Boss modelling pedals... you couldn't tell the difference on tape.[/quote] Likewise, I ditched my Fender twin 4x10, expensive power soak, and all my effects and went for a POD. I can't tell the difference either, in fact I get sounds out the POD I prefer and i can taylor all of them to exactly how I want them. The POD is my Desert Island piece of kit.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='862133' date='Jun 9 2010, 02:40 PM']I think that is another +1 of idiot proof/completely unresponsive 3 band passive EQ. Wasn't an issue when computers were valve. No chair.[/quote] Good one.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='862131' date='Jun 9 2010, 02:36 PM']Pah.. where's the fun in that? Did a gig on Sunday... one of those acoustic freaky things occurred in that bass was inauduble where I was standing, but fine out front. I know the set off-by-heart, but I couldn't hear a note I was playing. I hated it.[/quote] Agreed, but I get kicks out of other things too at a gig, not just a stool-loosening bass sound.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='862128' date='Jun 9 2010, 02:35 PM']Oh and digital clipping is a user problem not an equipment problem. If you don't know how to use your gear properly, you won't get the best out of it no matter what underlying technology is powering it.[/quote] I agree with all your points, but particularly this one. There's US Technology Service Desk slang for this, "PICNIC" Problem in Chair, Not in Computer.

[quote name='51m0n' post='862113' date='Jun 9 2010, 02:21 PM']Fair enough, every now and then I play in a room thats acoustically pants and no one can do anything about it, same deal really I'd still think that you are more likely to have monitoring issues, or do you have your own In Ear monitoring solution?[/quote] Exactly, there can be all sorts of problems at any venue irrespective of backline. No IEMs, just have to put up with not hearing myself properly. Being well rehearsed is the only way to deal with that. I was thinking of getting a Mackie SRM V2 as a monitor, but I can't be arsed lugging one of those around on public transport. I don't like driving to London venues. I suppose I should get a trolley but I don't want to look like a busker either

[quote name='51m0n' post='862084' date='Jun 9 2010, 02:00 PM']Out of interest Silddx, what happens if you turn up at a venue and the PA is pants, or the soundengineer cant deal with what yuo are doing? Part of the reason I so dearly love carting a great big heavy rig about is that I'm not entirely at the mercy of the PA with it, in most cases I do have the option of leaning over and turn up the Whumpulator Knob, ensuring satisfactory deafness to all around me....[/quote] It happens once in a while that the PA is sh*t, I talk to the sound guys and they are usually totally cool with it. I live with it if I get no monitor or if the PA is pants. It's the venue that's crap, not the band, we don't play there again.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='862082' date='Jun 9 2010, 01:57 PM']If it isn't there, of course you can't here it. But given the context of the quoted stuff you are replying to, the words 'digital clipping' figure fairly prominently. I have never heard digital clipping from a valve amplifier.[/quote] Are you taking the piss, old son? Have you heard valve clipping from a valve amp?

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='862074' date='Jun 9 2010, 01:49 PM']Not exist, same as they do usually. A singer would be fine with tops only PA that I'd expect to be in dives I'm lined up to play. I've only ever played one venue where the subs could keep up with my cabs. It is probably a genre thing.[/quote] You probably play small venues then. Fair enough.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='862067' date='Jun 9 2010, 01:44 PM']Damn, if you can't hear digital clipping, there is something pretty bad going on.[/quote] I set my patches up so they don't clip. You are making out that clipping is a [b]feature [/b]of digital modelling. It isn't unless I am gravely mistaken. If the digital signal is clipping, of course I can hear it, but why would I get it to clip? There is no reason to, is there.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='862064' date='Jun 9 2010, 01:44 PM']Lugging a real rig isn't as bad as lugging a modeller and a PA. I don't expect much more chance of a PA than I do of a backline being provided.[/quote] Fair comment, but if you're playing places with no PA what does your singer do?

[quote name='Dubs' post='862033' date='Jun 9 2010, 01:08 PM']Different strokes for differet folks. I'd never turn up to a session with only a Pod for guitar.[/quote] That's totally cool man, but why?

[quote name='velvetkevorkian' post='862038' date='Jun 9 2010, 01:17 PM']Because you can have multiple models/sounds without having to have multiple rigs, e.g. I use the same preamp for bass, double bass and electric and acoustic guitar, and can tailor my sound to each one. [b]If all you want is one sound, and you can achieve that with gear you like, then yes, modelling probably isn't for you. [/b]For me, I'd rather spend 2k on an Axe-FX than on a vintage SVT, but as ever, YMMV.[/quote] Sorry, I meant to say the same thing. For me, it's the sheer portability and variety of application. I like the pretty lights too

I simply don't want to cart a bunch of rigs and a big pedalboard about. I can get all the sounds I need from a single floor board and let the PA and monitors do the rest. I sometimes think people forget why electric guitars and basses, amps and speakers exist and how they developed from a problem that needed solving. The reaction from some quarters would have been "It don't sound nothin' like a string bass!" and from others "Cripes, I can get all these different sounds!". I think it's horses for courses in most cases, it's just the prejudice I can't stand.

[quote name='cheddatom' post='862004' date='Jun 9 2010, 12:37 PM']Digital clipping is a totally different thing to digitally modelled distortion. Digital clipping occurs from overdriving a digital unit, which is generally a bad idea. (unless i'm wrong, I know you know your amps etc). EDIT: It's like, you wouldn't wnat to clip the input on a digital recorder, it'll just sound horrible and seriously hurt your ears. Compare that to a tape recorder, which might sound nice if you over drive the input. This doesn't mean that you can't digitally model the effects of the tape recorder using your digital set-up.[/quote] I'm no techie but that makes perfect sense to me.

[quote name='umph' post='861982' date='Jun 9 2010, 12:18 PM']listen to the harmonic content especially around 1k. digital clipping is extremely harsh on the ears[/quote] TBH though, I'm not concerned about people like you because you are one in a million who can hear something like that. Can you really hear extremely harsh harmonic content digital clipping, especially around 1k? I'm amazed if you can.

[quote name='Dubs' post='861935' date='Jun 9 2010, 11:29 AM']I've done some listening tests on this and I can definitely tell with regards to guitar, but a very well programmed digital modeller does sound amazingly authentic. It's harder to tell with bass due to the nature of it. I think the digital modelling of valves can be very accurate but there really is no subsitute for micing up the real thing. [b]For example, I would never go into the studio with my band with only a Pod...[/b] As for being able to tell if someone is using an Ampeg from outside the venue, I'll call BS on that every day of the week![/quote] I've done an EP and an album in a very good studio and only took my POD. At first the producer was very concerned and told me he wanted me to go through his lovely old compressors and DI with just the bass. He reckoned the POD's compressor would be no match for his old rack compressors. In the end we did three simultaneous recordings to three separate tracks, one his way, one POD dry output and one wet. he went with the POD on most of the songs. Next session I did there he admitted the POD was great.

[quote name='cheddatom' post='861876' date='Jun 9 2010, 10:44 AM']If you're comparing listening to the recorded sound of a rig with the modelled sound of a rig, then I reckon no-one can tell the difference. To try and talk about modelling in the context of live performance is difficult, because obviously you have to amp up the modelled sound, and maybe the PA is crap, or there's no wedges etc. or maybe you're using in-ears which I would imagine are lacking in ball-shaking low end.[/quote] It's more or less your first point I wanted to discuss, but I've never had any real problems live either. But you're right in that it's down to the PA / monitor situation. I just think there's a lot of negative nonsense spoken about digital modelling.

I know this has been done before, but I keep reading people saying things like "it's got that nasty digital sound" or "it's sounds too digital". I simply can't tell the difference between a well programmed digital model and the real thing. I have pretty good ears for tone too. I get gorgeous tones through my POD X3 LIVE direct to desk, with both guitar and bass, and I am genuinely puzzled why people think they can tell the difference. The response from the POD valve amp models is just like a valve amp (and I've owned a few Peavey, Fender and Marshall amps), eg. you can clean up a dirty sound by rolling off the instrument volume pot, or picking more lightly, etc. So what is the the difference? Are my ears dead or something? Or is it just the purists being pedantic?

[quote name='mep' post='861561' date='Jun 8 2010, 10:07 PM']The SR16 is great and I have used it for drummerless rehersals before. Make sure you get a pedal so you can insert a fill (just so long the timing is right!)[/quote] The pedals are a fun extra, but by no means necessary. I just programme the drums with the fills in already. Sorry mep, not criticising, just making it clear that the pedal is for live applications and for a specific way of using the SR16. Didn't want people to think it was necessary to have one.

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='861423' date='Jun 8 2010, 08:24 PM']Actually, they worked a treat (I suppose) kept all the sweat inside, which wasn't too bad as they've all got a light dusting of talc inside. Rounded the tone out a bit. No real loss of feel except it felt more like playing flats rather than rounds. Big plus- Absolutely eliminates string noise (high frequency squeaks) and really helps with damping. I certainly wouldn't describe my fretting hand technique as noisy, but you certainly miss it when it's gone... They'll only last one session, though, and you look like you're just about to give someone an internal exam, too... [/quote] Cool! I thought you meant the disposable latex ones the rip really easily.