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What they should do is licence this technology out. Then we don't have to play one of those horrible MusicMan basses. We can have any kind of bass we want, ANYTHING! A bass that looks COOL! Made out of anything, and dial in the sounds we want. No more pissing about, and no arguments about a P Bass sounding like Guinness and a Jass Bass like bloody lager and lime.

[quote name='TomKent' post='1093261' date='Jan 17 2011, 10:52 PM']Didn't mean technologically wise, just meant 'lots of sounds in a box' wise. [/quote] Ahh, I see,

[quote name='Chopthebass' post='1092981' date='Jan 17 2011, 07:25 PM']I reckon a lot of the sounds will have subtle differences and in a live situation you won't hear the differences between a lot of them. I bet you could count the number of decent tones you can get out of it on one hand. Another post-NAMM gimmick![/quote] Mmm, I bet you wear very comfortable shoes.

[quote name='TomKent' post='1092042' date='Jan 17 2011, 12:14 AM']So it's like the Variax with more options? I'd really rather take three or four basses to a session than one of these, as revolutionary and technologically groundbreaking as it is.. I don't like the look of it haha.[/quote] It is nothing at all even minisculely related to the technology in a Variax. The GC is simply a pickup switching system. In some respects it's more like the Enfield pickup system, except this uses a matrix that generates nearly 9 million options. The variables in your active bass combined with a complex outboard preamp section is probably not far off that level, except the controls are rotary, whereas the GC is mostly switched and are related to pickup coil and switching combinations. I think some people find the concept scary without realising they probably have that many tonal options already. I know my J Retro Deluxe pre is capable of f***ing thousands of very subtle changes to the tone. However, having the ability to store my best settings would be ace which it can't do. The GC can.

It depends really, do you want a Guinness sound, or more of a Lager & Lime kinda tone?

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1092466' date='Jan 17 2011, 01:38 PM']Remarkable consensus so far: [b]Precision[/b] [list] [*]slightly clankier and less focussed sound but with a bit more bottom end [*]big traditional boots [*]a full rich tone with great presence [*]a 'fruity' richness [*]rough, dirty, solid [*]very 'direct' and 'mellow' [*]thick, heavy on the fundamental [*]Precisions explode [*]that (Precision) wallop. [*]Guinness - rich and full bodied [*]Precisions go thumpity thump [*]P's kinda go VVVvvvvvv [*]A P goes 'Womp!" [/list] [b]Jazz[/b] [list] [*]slightly more refined particularly in the mids [*]big traditional shoes [*]far more middy [*]an edgy rasp [*]Neck pup jazz = smooth, clean, hollow [*]the J has the ability to 'spread' it's tone. [*]Jazz's sparkle [*]lager & lime - cuts through nicely [*]Jazzes go plinky-plunk [*]J's kinda go Dnggggggg [*]A Jazz goes 'Wooomp" [/list][/quote] It's hilarious isn't it. The techie chat that goes on on this site about various properties of wood, pups, electronics, hardware, amplification, onboard and outboard toneshaping, compression (hello 51m0n ), cable type and length, not forgetting the bloody money we spend on all this sh*t! And this is the best we can come up with Then, Musicman20 posts a link to the incredible MusicMan Game Changer and it gets mostly slagged off by people who think it's complicated and has too many options and it will piss sound engineers off! HAHAHA! It just goes to show what crap is spoken about bass timbre. [i]"Dear Mr Shuker, I have £2.5k to spend on a bass. Would you kindly make me one please, it must have many stripes of wood, one of them swirly daftwood tops, and it must sound like Guinness, NOT the lager and lime sound because it won't suit my band whose style of music I can't describe because we are unique but we are told we sound just like the Chili Peppers."[/i]

I tend to agree. The market for basses of this nature is a bit squahed because there are so many traditionalists around. But to be honest, I find the majority of these sorts of luthiers don't really have much of an aesthetic, they often look like glorified ugly Wishbasses. I'm tired of seeing multi-laminate and stupidly shaped daftwood bodies and 87 piece necks, and fancy neck thru coffee tables. But I suppose they appeal to those bassists who like to be reminded of their home. However, this guy looks pretty decent and the rear scoop on that SC looks really well designed.

Sounds like a great night to celebrate a great bloke. Sadly, I won't be able to make it, but I would watch the live web feed if you are planning one and donate a tenner to the Samaritans.

[quote name='The Twickerman' post='1081195' date='Jan 7 2011, 03:29 PM']I have only just seen this thread. Fantastic work.[/quote] Me too, f***ing amazing isn't it!

Breakfast > Keyboard What a mess.

[quote name='Clarky' post='1092033' date='Jan 17 2011, 12:07 AM']Cracking gig. Nearly Dan are a truly excellent bunch of musicians - the bass player ain't bad! Nice to meet you Pete and that was a first for me - posing as Nigel silddx's boyfriend/+1 to get on the guest list Sorry I couldn't hang around for a chat afterwards but I've just got in and my alarm goes off in just over 5 hours time [/quote] It really was a great gig, Pete, even better than last time! To echo Clarky, sorry we couldn't hang about after, me and Clarky had to get to bed Clarky, thanks for the lift mate, really appreciate it Cheers!

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='1091042' date='Jan 16 2011, 01:26 AM']yawwwwnnn ... seen it all before... [/quote]

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='1090864' date='Jan 15 2011, 08:51 PM']If someone isn't going to use all the features to their fullest extent I don't see what the value is in having them. Why not just have the settings hardwired once the decision about settings has been made? If the sales pitch was more honest, it's a good demo bass. Players would get most of the value from the added flexibility after a month when they've decided for themselves which settings work best. After that, its no more useful than a regular bass...unless the live gigging situation changes genres dramatically. The number of players out there who could use this feature fully is likely to be very small compared to the number of players who are prepared to believe this feature will make them appear more professional. Even in the studio most producers won't have the patience to wait for a bass player to faff about with pickup settings, (unless the bass player is paying the bills). The bass player needs to have that stuff all locked down in their own time before turning up. I don't have an issue with anyone who wants to buy one BTW, I just think the marketing is disingenuine and based on novelty value rather than real improvements in design.[/quote] Every thing you said in this post I deeply disagree with. Sorry partner.