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[quote name='silentbob' timestamp='1342395190' post='1734376'] And I thought it was all just about rock and roll! [b]I feel that after reading this, a little piece of me has died:[[/b] [/quote] Why? These are inclusive family events in a public space, they need to be controlled properly, safety and security are important.

[quote name='Bassman Sam' timestamp='1342394255' post='1734364'] Bought it, can't wait to give it a listen and waste some veg. [/quote]

I've been listening to this album a lot today, and had it in headphones while I was cooking dinner. Let me tell you, it's a f***ing great album for chopping veg and pan frying to EDIT: and I spoke to my mate who I played it to last night, he's buying

Be cool. Pump it. Have fun. All the best for it.

Depending on the sort of music you play, your role as a bassist is normally much more limited than that of a guitarist, and also very different. I don't know why people think the instruments are related as much as they do. They look similar but that's about it. They have very different roles. But let me tell you, playing guitar well is not f***ing easy, and a guitarist will have to play ten times the notes the bassist will in a normal gig. And I believe it really is 'easier' to learn bass in the sense that if you have a bit of natural ability, I think you can learn bass to the standard you'd need to be in a band much more quickly than you could guitar. The reason I prefer bass to guitar, is that the bass can do so much more for a song with ONE note than a guitar ever could. I think Bassists need to be very clever musicians to make the bass work in a way the song deserves. And like BRX said, it's all about the song anyway.

Have you really heard this more often than owt else, Pete? Cheers, Nige666

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1342367152' post='1733812'] That's what rehearsals are for. If you're too dumb to be able to sort out a little thing like level matching them you're probably too dumb to be in a band. [/quote] I have to say though, that there are almost certainly plenty of people who get all their levels and sounds sorted in isolation, and wonder why it doesn't work in a band situation. As for the OP, never been worried about going direct, if I can hear what I'm playing, it's all fine with me.

Got the album on Friday. I love it! Not that much 'I WILL KILL YOU!' voice either It's a superb album, there are some truly lush melodies and chord sequences, wickid riffs, world class playing and writing all round. I played it to a friend last night, he made me keep playing it, he got serious thrills from it Top work, Steve, I truly hope the band gets the recognition and success it deserves. Cheers!

[quote name='bartelby' timestamp='1342344015' post='1733358'] To be honest, 3 hours of Springsteen should be enough for a lifetime... [/quote] and yes

The local (miserable bastards IMO) residents got that curfew imposed. Nevertheless, Springsteen should have conformed to it.

I love this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQEkXr1FSM

I recently had to learn a tricky 5min composition on guitar for a gig. I had about ten days to do it and had a lot of other commitments at the time. I was panicking a bit I'll admit because I had to get it perfect and play it live on BBC radio, although I had to play something very different in the end. There were two guitar tracks mixed quite quietly, some little lead lines, arpeggios, bass-side harmony lines, etc. and all seemingly quite random. I had to weld the two together to make it like the recording and learn it on a classical nylon string for the radio show, and on a Strat for the gig. No charts or anything for this. It was played by someone else who used a steel string acoustic in a tuning they developed themselves which made things more tricky, I used a capo on G and played it standard tuning. I don't really read or write music, and hate music stands on stage, so this is how I did it. First thing I did was sling it on the iPOD and listen to it a lot while doing other things, it seems to help get it into my subconscious better when I'm not fully concentrating. After a couple of days, I started learning each section. First thing I did was listen on headphones and write down the discreet sections with my own immediate instinctive adjectives for the parts, like 'Soft Arps', 'Quiet Twiddles', 'High Harmony Sunflowers' etc. It helps cement the parts in my head and creates a little story to follow. Getting the structure down on paper took a few goes to get it so I could follow it without confusion. Then I split the piece into three natural sections and worked out and learned every part in each section over a few days. Then I put the sections together and played the whole piece through about ten or so times. After a about 5 or 6 hours work in total, it was pretty much note perfect. I have pictures in my head of how it goes, and a week later I can still remember it and could probably pick up a guitar right now and play it almost perfectly solo. It also did me the world of good in terms of seeing my progress evolve rapidly in a short time,given me some confidence. Of course Bilbo would simply transcribe it, learn it, and probably have it down in a few hours

The white one looks cool!

[quote name='Ben Jamin' timestamp='1342131989' post='1730327'] The first thing I listen out for when coming up with lines is what the kick, snare and any other rhythm instruments are doing. These provide the fundamental rhythm pattern so working around those should let you know where to fatten up/emphasise a beat with a big low note or two. Generally less is more - the trick is in balancing leaving enough space for everything to stand out whilst taking up enough room to support it and beef it up. Don't worry if your part seems musically uncomplicated - I used to think it was impressive to throw in as many tricks as I could, when infact it only made me sound arrogant and the music sound bad. In my opinion, the real joy in bass playing is just sitting on a good groove. Runs and fiddly stuff sound ace... in the right place. [/quote] Great advice.

[quote name='Jack Cahalane' timestamp='1342129123' post='1730264'] What happened? [/quote] sh*t gear that wouldn't stay in tune, over-confidence, inability, lack of experience ..

[quote name='Samashton12' timestamp='1342129101' post='1730263'] Thanks guys.. im gonna go lock myself in my room im self taught and ive never had a teacher or attempted to write lines.. ive just covered stuff.. thanks though.. always a big help [/quote] Stick to the roots, use space, not notes, to create a groove and pump that bitch and add the odd clever note. I'm self taught too.

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1342128786' post='1730256'] That's tough love. [/quote] Yeah, well, I've been kicked out of a good band through being sh*t and trying to bluff it. I was 19 and it taught me a big f***ing lesson I never forgot. I still cringe thinking about it.

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1342128208' post='1730234'] I think the key word is YOU need to write new lines for the track [/quote] Yes, no sense in passing the audition and then wasting their time later if you can't cut it. The only way to do this is for you to listen to the song and see what bass lines come into your head, sing them in your head, out loud, whatever, but do that then learn how to play it on the bass. This is the only way to really represent yourself truthfully. Be confident with what you come up with, because that will be truly you. They may not like it but there will be other opportunities. Good luck.

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1342078248' post='1729033'] There are few things more annoying than the "flick thru" people at Smiths etc. Have they no shame? Have they no money? Can they please get out of my way? I'm actually trying to buy something. And why do they all dress like train spotters? There are better ways of looking cheap - but I can't think of any. [/quote] I went to WHS to check the music mags yesterday and there was a young bloke who looked like Taylor Hawkins sat on his bag reading Rolling Stone, obstructing most of the music mags. I even reached across him to get to BPM and BGM, he didn't move and seemed pissed off when I deliberately got in his way and nudged his mag. I'm not violent but I felt like giving the **** a good smack and a talking to. I just left muttering profanities within his earshot.

[quote name='aldude' timestamp='1342082015' post='1729085'] Thanks!! [b]I mostly use an active preamp to boost the mids so the dusty end stuff cuts through better when I want it to. Would the J-retro cover me for that?[/b] Also, what is the output level? I have an active Ibanez with a level that is about the same as a passive bass and I think that's great. Does the J-retro have a trim pot or something like that? [/quote] Yes it has a mid sweep with boost and cut. And as has been mentioned an internal trim pot to match passive and active output levels. It also has a bypass switch to passive that omits the need for a battery, very handy if it dies mid set.

[quote name='aldude' timestamp='1342037380' post='1728625'] I'd be interested in hearing what the J- retro is like - I'm thinking about augmenting a jazz of mine. Also, is the circuit the same as in all e others, ie. the U-retro etc? The specs seem the same from the web site. Thanks [/quote] Here you go http://basschat.co.uk/topic/123987-east-j-retro-01-before-and-after-comparison-sound-clips/

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1342014013' post='1728074'] Try Shuker. He's already made a pair of 6-string Ric copies. [url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/custgal.htm"]See here (3rd one down)[/url]. [/quote] Gorgeous!

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1342025995' post='1728385'] Absolutely, but that inflammation gives you a reminder to treat that area with a little more care than usual. [/quote] Absolutely. The point I clumsily tried to make is don't rely on pain to let you know. Years of damage to your back, for example, will go unnoticed.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1342024603' post='1728343'] That's the approach I tend to take as well - [b]pain is there to remind you that something isn't 'right' and to be careful.[/b] However, you have to weigh that up against your ongoing quality of life whilst you are waiting for the problem to rectify itself\be rectified. Using that Ibuprofen Gel stuff probably isn't going to give you the sort of relief you need but it certainly won't exacerbate the situation - [b]provided[/b] you remember you have a sore hand and don't overdo it. Mrs Castle v1.0 had CTS and surgery fixed it without any major issues. She did moan about it being painful for a few weeks afterwards, but then she moaned at just about everything before, during and afterwards anyway. [/quote] But do remember that many tissues in your body have no nerve or blood supply, they get damaged without you feeling a thing, it's the secondary effects causing the pain, such as inflammation impacting on nerves.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1342007384' post='1727848'] If the OP is looking for advice on technique, how to prevent injury while playing bass etc, that's fair enough, but IMO this forum does not seem like the right place to be discussing medical problems. [/quote] I always say this. It's possibly going to make G's problem worse. There have already been some posts about muscle pain relief Painkillers are not going to help either. G, have you been properly diagnosed? You have a serious condition that needs medical advice and treatment, not a bunch of quackery on a bass forum