Al Krow

It really isn't too bad at all to use. A short initial learning curve but then a lot of fun. There's even a tips thread with patch suggestions. @dave_bass5 and @stewblack please jump in here.

The AeroTech 212 is, on paper, equivalent to the BF Big Twin in what it delivers. 29 lbs vs 49 lbs. That hardly qualifies as "something slightly lighter". It's GOBSMACKINGLY AMAZINGLY LIGHTER !! The Big Twin costs £1,200 new which is hardly bargain basement - I don't think the AeroTech is going to be a great deal above this. If the cab quality is comparable, there's a new kid in town.

Hah! You and I differ on this (for once!) - I really like the guy who's hosting the thread: he's zany and fun and makes his videos entertaining, which is actually quite a talent, with a fair bit of useful information thrown in; although a couple of important bits that should be flagged e.g. the 16.5mm string spacing was omitted.

I look forward to the pics and full-on detailed review in due course. No reason for sayin' that of course. No reason at all 😁

I guess the chat with young Silvie went well then...😉

Only seem to be puke colour available in the UK. If you want the Matt Black that ships from the US for just under £2k then that will set you back £2,599 over here. Although I agree, I'd much prefer to get my basses already over here too!

Seems to be a couple available at £1,590 with free shipping(?) VAT and Customs, and handling = just under £2k.

Zoom B1-4 it is then! What are you going to spend all that cash on, that's not gone on a PJB? 😁

Actually if we're getting a bit more serious: I had a Markbass Combo (AC 121 Lite) as my goto gigging combo for 4 years. It's a very capable piece of kit and I have no hesitation in recommending as being one of the best combos on the market. You just needed to understand how it works and work with it. It paired with "fizzy" drives a lot better than some high end cabs such as Vanderkley (which was no question a better cab overall). There's a similar point about P pups vs J pups. In my experience, P's tame fizz, J's can accentuate, particularly if they already have a 'growl'. So I think it's a case of spending a bit of time with the gear you have. Your bass, amp and cab are your core. Add a suitable dirt to taste.

Or just get a Markbass combo 😂 The cabs have a natural tendency to roll off high end. Their amps often come armed with VLE aka vintage emulator which also rolls off the treble. Sounds like the perfect partner for all your drive pedals PB😉 Then if it's still not muddy enough get yourself a TC Mojomojo. Job done.

You'll need to define "British" 😉

Damn gents, I'd totally forgotten about these...and now you've reminded me with that clip and 'sales pitch' that they do sound very tasty! Particularly if, as you allude, they are genuinely going to stack up against Mesa amps.

Congrats!! And welcome to the Ibby SR owners' club! Please do post a pic or two!

Tried one. Sorry not to be more enthusiastic...

Not come across these before - if it does what is sets out to in terms of "captures all the sound of a mic 'd classic tube bass amp" then that's going to scratch a lot of itches! Quick listen on YouTube and seems to have plenty of low end with the ability to include / exclude top end crunch via the harmonics - and mean that it shouldn't get lost in the mix. DI out included and all for £65 new. Looks really good, Paul! How do my observations from a YouTube clip stack up with what you're hearing in "real life" and with your band?

@Ashdown Engineering - the reference below is to GR Amps (Italy), from another thread, who are providing a power out to power effects pedals, so this is already being done. But not on something that is specifically designed to go on the pedal board like the Amp or Newt. IMO it would be a 'killer app' if you managed to incorporate that into your pedal board amps, particularly if you could provide a few isolated outputs. Guitarists, who are bigger a market still, as well as bassists would start going weak at the knees...(and an aux in , so we can properly use it as a headphone amp, whilst you're at it please! 😁)

Don't worry, I'll quickly spot that I suspect and it wouldn't be hanging about too long...

Oh I dunno, I could name a few high end Italian cars that would leave just about every British made car in the shade for performance and style 😁

Depends who you're buying it off and whether you're throwing a Yammy BB P34 in with your £100 or not 😁

Not sure that's right. The BF SC is a very good cab. On portability grounds it's very very hard to match. But is it the best sounding or most capable 12" cab around? I, for one, as a very contented BF SC owner who regularly gigs and rehearses with it would never make such a claim - not least in that I have a significantly more capable 12" in my arsenal! Not sure I've heard too many other BF SC owners make that claim either. What it does do is deliver a very good sound in a very portable package.

Best put a Mesa M6 on top of it then 😉

Versatile but more pricey: SA Aftershock - pretty much a digital drive multifx Grizzly Bass - Ed Friedland is a massive fan. Zero loss of low end on this analogue pedal which has additional EQ options that allow you to range from clean Motown to full on dirt.

Haha indeed! Tbf I think when I stumble it's going to be very messy! Lots of tasty gear appearing on the horizon: - Ibanez headless basses - GR featherlight cabs - DG Neural DSP multifx I'll just need to make sure that when I do the missus is getting her nails done so, like @FinnDave, I have a proper, genuine excuse 😂

Another one bites the dust! 😎

Haha indeed - still blows away my band-mates when then lift mine! But a 212 4ohm cab capable of handling 900W should on paper easily trump a 112 8ohm cab capable of handling 600W (i.e. the BF SC) in terms of onstage and audience presence. And if the 212 is < 29lbs then that's a game changer. I'm now already not thinking of replacing my BF SC with a BB2.