Al Krow

+2 for the Thomann PSUs. This tiny thing... Is very comfortably and noiselessly powering all of these and with headroom to spare!

The Zoom multis I love but lack the chip processing muscle to handle pitch shifting well and with minimal latency. The Boss PS6 harmonist is flexible and warmer than the EHX but also suffers latency issues (there you go @Stub Mandrel, proof if you needed it that I'm not on Boss's payroll despite my continued effusiveness for the SY-1's unparalleled polyphonic tracking!) EHX Pitchfork - tinny as we we've discussed. Helix - very capable but price / size. I think that just leaves the Digitech Drop of the ones I'm aware of. I've never had one (I still have or previously have had all the others I've mentioned above). But, given the positive experience I've had with their Mosaic and other BC'ers with the Ricochet, it could well be just the ticket for you.

Not you at all. It is very "tinny". I've settled on Digitech Mosaic for octave up (others really like the more featured Ricochet but I've not tried that). Helix Stomp / HFX etc does the broader pitch shift very well and obviously a lot more, but not cheap kit.

But if you refer to your clients as "ladys" could you really describe yourself as "high class"?

Bad originals bands might make a comeback. No one is going to get up to dance for them, right? Could be their moment.

Oh I missed, that. Ok I need to edit the thread and my OP! 😎

Less depressing than I initially thought... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8780631/Pubs-bars-restaurants-blame-3-coronavirus-outbreaks-week.html

Except...you've just eloquently managed to join in the fun without actually doing so! Can't keep a good man down, eh? 😁 And you've now made me wonder what a Jamerson bass line without his trademark thud, or whether Entwistle's signature sound on My Generation would have been quite so iconic?

What you have heard for yourself, now, is just how bloody amazing the speed, accuracy and glitch-less depth of tracking on the Boss SY-1 octave down is! Goes lower than my Fearless F112 cab could comfortable handle, and that's saying something! We could hear the speaker 'flapping' as it tried to cope with notes an octave below E and lower! Oh and thanks for the personal delivery of the Ashdown headphones - they're ridiculously cool in their own way!

Heard another tale of Stomp build quality issues recently with a report of one dying mid live set. Previous mentions of over heating and in my case a flaky USB connection. Just doesn't seem to have the gig-build that something like the HFX has, with its more tank like housing which seems capable of handling our size 12s. Helix SL rather than Stomp perhaps a better name for this product?

As per your suggestion, I'd still be very interested to hear a clip from you with your TC Sub'N'Up on octave-up with your settings, to see if it matches the Digitech Mosaic; which I hope you'll agree is really very good once you've had a listen to the clips posted above?

Refreshing to see Sergeant Pepper's, as totally iconic and ground breaking as it was, knocked off the top spot for once. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-of-all-time-1062063/ Any obvious omissions?

Here you go - my Digitech Mosaic recordings at the start of this thread: Look forward to hearing the TC Sub'N'Up.

Yes that is almost certainly correct! Fyi - I have only tried the Mosaic not the Ricochet. It is possible they are using different engines - I had assumed that they were the same octave up circuit. The Ricochet does a lot more than the Mosaic, which is a one trick pony. It just does that trick remarkably well! I posted a couple of clips a while back, one of the Mosaic and one of an actual 8 string. A lot of BCers thought the Mosaic did a very decent job and some even thought the Mosaic was the 8 string!

Agree about the compressors or other effects. Keep it simple! However if this avoids the need of having a separate isolated PSU for the rest of your pedals, given it is already mains powered that would be a big plus in my books - one mains lead per pedal board rather than two has gotta be welcome!

The only thing that I've come across that tracks effortlessly and at speed down to a low E is the Boss SY-1. It's also polyphonic. But it's a very transparent octave down, and you may want something with more flavour - or alternatively add a bit of grit with a dirt pedal of choice. Oh and octave down is just a "side effect" for the SY-1. It does a huge amount else as its main focus.

Or if, like me, you can't be ars*d to use a PC to do Toneprint editing, but prefer the immediacy of dials and want something that sounds at least as authentic (IMO even better!) as a faux 8 string as the TC... ... then get a Digitech Mosaic (or it's even more featured sibling, the Ricochet).

Well that's a big encouragement to pick up my fretless Ibby Portamento then, which has lain untouched for far too long! If a fretless can fool a middle aged bass player with poor speakers on his mum's PC into thinking it's an upright, it's gotta have something going for it, eh? 😁

If you're into £200+ territory and you want the immediacy of dials, check this unit from Empress. https://empresseffects.com/products/paraeq

Nope - maybe just poor quality speakers on the PC I was at! Best have another listen through headphones eh? What did you hear it as being?

Upright double bass, rather than electric, right?

@Quatschmacher - I've got a sneaky suspicion that the new Source Audio EQ will get Dave to where he wants to be?

I think there is often a "cancelling" effect when both pups are engaged equally. It results in a sweet slight mid scoop on my Ibby JJ, which actually is quite attractive. On the older series like my BB 1025, however, the mid switch position combining the P+J adds bridge J grit to the P and is the default setting for many of us. Be interested to hear from other 734A users if they are getting the same result as you with both pups set at 50:50.

The "chorus" bass line (first at 029 to 041) sounds like its played with pick up at the dusty end. No way was that bit a synth - good that we aren't completely usurped by electronica just yet!